EPTarmor runes -> wriggles or whatever armor you want -> win
[Champion] Irelia - Page 11
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
armor runes -> wriggles or whatever armor you want -> win | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23378 Posts
As for helping your team with gangplank ultimate, yeah, pirate stupid bullshit champion. I'd want to just pick some weird counterpick to gp like jax who just shits on him in lane cause of dodges and is enough of a carry that if he wins his lane is makes up for pirate ult. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On November 02 2011 17:32 De4ngus wrote: irelia can beat nidalee and gp l0l armor runes -> wriggles or whatever armor you want -> win you make a fair point good sir. and mres rune -> mres beats all AP carries right? De4ngus, revolutionizing the game one post at a time. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23378 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On November 02 2011 18:17 redtooth wrote: you make a fair point good sir. and mres rune -> mres beats all AP carries right? De4ngus, revolutionizing the game one post at a time. i think you're starting to get it :D | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:38 bosiddon wrote: irelia vs karma who will win world will implode due to awesomeness. but really, Karma would probably win mid, Irelia would probably win top, assuming halfway decent junglers. Karma needs to extend way too far to do the early level zoning she needs in the matchup and a good jungler will fuck her face in @ top lane for that, but assuming she can do that shit she beats up on most melees (not Gangplank though, that fucker rapes her). | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
haha. honestly though i'm not as interested in the inherent matchups as much as i am in the potential of the hero. i have no doubt in my mind that my nidalee will 100% of the time beat irelias who don't have extensive experience with the hero. but i don't care about that and am instead curious as to see how she fares in the hands of someone who remotely knows what they are doing. having played irelia a few times i can see glimpses of her having the huge skill ceiling. unfortunately, i've just never seen it manifest itself in my play nor in the play of others. it's to the point where i'm starting to question if maybe what others have said have biased my perspective a little too much. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On November 03 2011 00:25 Mogwai wrote: what specs/build do you use for Irelia? 0/9regen/21 apen/armor/flat mRes/[movespeed or apen depending] flash/tele | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
what does your item build usually look like? | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
- wriggles -> triforce - rushing atmogs - my nidalee build (eleisa + swiftness + triforce) the first one was most successful. when i have time i'll give your suggestions a shot. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On November 03 2011 00:58 Sandster wrote: How do you lane against casters top? I've seen Ryze, Swain, and Sion top, and one bizarre case with a full AP orianna that I couldn't lane against at all. I tend to open mantle+2pots -> boots -> 2nd mantle, but in some cases I was zoned hard early on making it hard to get wit's end in any timely manner. Sion especially gives me trouble. I ran 0/9/21 without MR quints, so that may be why. null + 2 is such an underwhelming opening. Open regrowth vs. non-skillshot APs and just try to outlast their harass, and open boots vs. skillshot APs, using bladesurge to dodge shit. Pad your MR later, NMM is a bad opening. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 03 2011 00:40 Mogwai wrote: ok, I highly highly highly recommend 0/21/9, with ignite instead of TP in certain matchups. Also resistance quints instead of ArPen/Movespeed. I also run Attack Speed instead of ArPen on my marks, but this is a preference thing. what does your item build usually look like? I vouch for the 0 21 9 build, makes her lane sustainability that much stronger. I'm not a dedicate top laner so I haven't invested in Resist Quints but I'd imagine they make laning vs Irelia a real bitch after level 5. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On November 03 2011 01:07 Mogwai wrote: null + 2 is such an underwhelming opening. Open regrowth vs. non-skillshot APs and just try to outlast their harass, and open boots vs. skillshot APs, using bladesurge to dodge shit. Pad your MR later, NMM is a bad opening. I don't think regrowth works vs rumble, but any mana-limited spellcaster can be bottlenecked like this early on yeah. You can always be boss and open NMM followed by another NMM. One for merc treads and another for GA/Wit's end. Huehue. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On November 03 2011 00:55 redtooth wrote: i've tried a variety of stuff. - wriggles -> triforce - rushing atmogs - my nidalee build (eleisa + swiftness + triforce) the first one was most successful. when i have time i'll give your suggestions a shot. your builds probably also have something to do with it. wriggle's usually forces your hand into wit's end -> tanking out as a follow up because you don't really have the time to spec straight to triforce before you need to tank out. Atmog's is ghetto, idgaf what Utah says, lol. Irelia's best offensive scaling is with attack speed and her best defensive scaling is with resists, why would you do a build made to tank out via HP and access strong AD ratios at the same time when she scales better with the complete opposite? It doesn't make sense on paper. Irelia doesn't run away as well as Nidalee does, you can't pull shit like that on Irelia. On November 03 2011 01:15 Juicyfruit wrote: I don't think regrowth works vs rumble, but any mana-limited spellcaster can be bottlenecked like this early on yeah. You can always be boss and open NMM followed by another NMM. One for merc treads and another for GA/Wit's end. Huehue. I dunno mang, that's what I do vs. rumble. but I'm running double flat MRes on Glyphs and Quints in that scenario, so maybe that's what it is. so much of my Irelia success feels like my speccing vs. my lane matchup. I mean, I have fucking 7 rune pages I use in top lane :p. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 03 2011 01:17 Mogwai wrote: your builds probably also have something to do with it. wriggle's usually forces your hand into wit's end -> tanking out as a follow up because you don't really have the time to spec straight to triforce before you need to tank out. Atmog's is ghetto, idgaf what Utah says, lol. Irelia's best offensive scaling is with attack speed and her best defensive scaling is with resists, why would you do a build made to tank out via HP and access strong AD ratios at the same time when she scales better with the complete opposite? It doesn't make sense on paper. Irelia doesn't run away as well as Nidalee does, you can't pull shit like that on Irelia. I dunno mang, that's what I do vs. rumble. but I'm running double flat MRes on Glyphs and Quints in that scenario, so maybe that's what it is. so much of my Irelia success feels like my speccing vs. my lane matchup. I mean, I have fucking 7 rune pages I use in top lane :p. What a whore... 6 pages of Armor/MR quint... and an Akari page. Real. What set of champions would you run AS? oO | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
hi5 Smash. | ||
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