EPT[Champion] Irelia - Page 23
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Jimqi
Canada13 Posts
On March 03 2012 08:44 Shikyo wrote: Obviously he gets his E off, but you stun him afterwards(it's a stun because you're lower hp) and he can't trade with your true damage. On that note you can stun ww out of his ult even if he suppresses you 0_o | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
Post laning phase, I couldn't care less about the 12 armor I usually get from quints and I think 6% lifesteal would be quite noticeable. I'm not sure wether to try AD reds (just because you'd heal more per hit and you won't be constantly attackting anyways) or stick to AS reds. Doing some testing now, will report how it went Tried it against Volibear, not sure how much that says about the viability of the build. From lvl 3 onwards, I could just farm minions while he was literally standing there autoattacking me. Worked pretty well. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Mystogun
United States392 Posts
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theMarkovian
Netherlands183 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On May 03 2012 07:01 zulu_nation8 wrote: you should be able to lasthit every minion at tower with lv1 Q by attacking the ranged minion once after tower hit then Q, and doing the same for melee minions after two tower hits. I think aspd reds are the only choice on Irelia. you can only do that so many times till you run out of mana, though. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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adriftt
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AD can also be nice in really aggressive lanes as AS only really helps you a lot when W is on. still prefer AS though | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Anyone give me a few tips on what Irelia's weakest matchups are? | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
Oh yeah, nasus, yorick also do well. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
She can't kill Cho nor Nasus, who get to free farm against her. Kennen never loses lane. Olaf can bully her early on but she reverses the tendancy. I guess it's a matchup where she can lose if you receive early ganks (Rumble would probably be too). | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Cho is bad versus irelia. Irelia is a good against Kennen too . Olaf is tricky. Udyr, Riven, are both good. Honestly though, Irelia is still super solid top lane but she snowballs really badly in both ways. If you die early you're totally screwed against lots of people. Example is that olaf rapes you if you die first to say jungler and you rape him the other way. Jarvan might be really good if you abuse early game burst. Udyrs a beast, warwick too but Irelias not that bad against him, but warwick is stronger later on than irelia unless you're super fed. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Are you positive that she still trashes Rumble? My other tops (Panth, WW, Olaf, Shen, basically) can have trouble against him so I'm considering dusting off Irelia and Renekton if they can trash Rumble, Riven and other asshole top laners. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
On May 04 2012 04:29 Slayer91 wrote: Rumble sucks. Screw you guys. Cho is bad versus irelia. Irelia is a good against Kennen too . Olaf is tricky. Udyr, Riven, are both good. Honestly though, Irelia is still super solid top lane but she snowballs really badly in both ways. If you die early you're totally screwed against lots of people. Example is that olaf rapes you if you die first to say jungler and you rape him the other way. Jarvan might be really good if you abuse early game burst. Udyrs a beast, warwick too but Irelias not that bad against him, but warwick is stronger later on than irelia unless you're super fed. Might just be because I suck, but Jarvan takes a steaming dump on me | ||
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Owned Noob
United States731 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
Then again, I'm really bad, so maybe those Udyrs were just not playing well at all (no sarcasm, but those Udyrs definitely didn't play like I would imagine one should against Irelia). As someone who likes playing lots of Irelia....I can safely say that I don't lose often against a lot of champions. There are champions that I would say that I should lose against, but against the people I've played (like I said, I'm bad, so maybe it's different in high level), a lot of champions that I consider to be counters to Irelia haven't really been killing me. Honestly, I don't think any champion will just smack her around. Her e, w, auto auto auto auto, out of range, q, auto combo is ridiculously good for trading, and not a lot of champions will have the same amount of burst, especially if you're the one to try to initiate first. Edit: As for champions I tend to just get uncomfortable with: Riven: She's just a really strong laner, and if she plays smart, she, on paper at least, should be able to just straight up own you. Olaf: The true damage burst is pretty scary, and I tend to play a lot more passive when he's chosen. Warwick: This is pretty balanced as far as actual laning goes, but it's definitely in the advantage of ww. The reason why is because I can kill ww once, or even twice, but he'll still be okay in the lane and can trade pretty well if he plays smart. If he kills me once though there's no way I can do anything to him afterwards. Jarvan: Perhaps it's just the lack of experience against a laning Jarvan, but trading against him feels less effective against other notable top laners. I haven't seen him a lot though. Everyone else I either haven't played enough of to be scared of or I've just owned in lane and isn't really a big problem. | ||
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