[Champion] Irelia - Page 20

On February 18 2012 03:06 Alaric wrote:
Isn't Yorrick's main harass in lane magic damage? I recall being told that after my first Yorrick encounter made me rage IRL.

On February 18 2012 03:06 Alaric wrote:
Isn't Yorrick's main harass in lane magic damage? I recall being told that after my first Yorrick encounter made me rage IRL.

On February 18 2012 04:22 Mogwai wrote:

Yorick's only magic damage is the initial nuke on his W. The ghouls' damage and the nukes on Q and E are all physical.

EDIT: also, everyone get the fuck over wriggle's phobia, jesus. It's essentially a gold/10 item with the efficiency of a doran's item that sells for regular 70% of buy value. Are you kidding me? The item is goddamn absurd and I'm so tired of hearing people talk about how they "don't like it." It's good, period. If you use all the stats, you should buy it. Irelia uses all the stats. Suck it up and buy it, and then come back here and thank me as you win more games.

On February 18 2012 04:22 Mogwai wrote:

Yorick's only magic damage is the initial nuke on his W. The ghouls' damage and the nukes on Q and E are all physical.

EDIT: also, everyone get the fuck over wriggle's phobia, jesus. It's essentially a gold/10 item with the efficiency of a doran's item that sells for regular 70% of buy value. Are you kidding me? The item is goddamn absurd and I'm so tired of hearing people talk about how they "don't like it." It's good, period. If you use all the stats, you should buy it. Irelia uses all the stats. Suck it up and buy it, and then come back here and thank me as you win more games.

On February 18 2012 04:22 Mogwai wrote:

Yorick's only magic damage is the initial nuke on his W. The ghouls' damage and the nukes on Q and E are all physical.

EDIT: also, everyone get the fuck over wriggle's phobia, jesus. It's essentially a gold/10 item with the efficiency of a doran's item that sells for regular 70% of buy value. Are you kidding me? The item is goddamn absurd and I'm so tired of hearing people talk about how they "don't like it." It's good, period. If you use all the stats, you should buy it. Irelia uses all the stats. Suck it up and buy it, and then come back here and thank me as you win more games.

(Active): Yorick deals magic damage to the target and heals for 40% of the damage dealt. A Ravenous Ghoul is summoned behind the target and it will heal Yorick for the damage it deals.

On February 18 2012 05:00 Nytefish wrote:


Yorick's E is one of those skills that scales on attack damage but actually does magic damage. At least that's what it said last time I read the description.

On February 18 2012 04:22 Mogwai wrote:

Yorick's only magic damage is the initial nuke on his W. The ghouls' damage and the nukes on Q and E are all physical.

EDIT: also, everyone get the fuck over wriggle's phobia, jesus. It's essentially a gold/10 item with the efficiency of a doran's item that sells for regular 70% of buy value. Are you kidding me? The item is goddamn absurd and I'm so tired of hearing people talk about how they "don't like it." It's good, period. If you use all the stats, you should buy it. Irelia uses all the stats. Suck it up and buy it, and then come back here and thank me as you win more games.

On February 18 2012 06:36 Shiv. wrote:
So I picked up Irelia again (she sort of was my first love in a way, the very first champion I bought with IP) after a good while of not really playing her and I'm not sure what to rune. I checked rune pages of a couple of known Irelia players and they all seem to disagree with each other. Especially Wickd's runes seem odd to me. I don't get the idea of AD runes on someone with such a weak early game.

What I'm running right now is a AS Reds, Armor Yellows, Flat MR Blues if against AP, scaling MR if against AD and flat MR/Armor Quints, depending on the matchup. 21/9/0 because, fuck it, offense tree OP. My logic behind this was is that generally, I need to play defensively until I hit at least level 5. My runes help me doing that I don't really need AD reds to lasthit because of W and Q, I don't really like ArP reds on her because I'd like to think I play a very W centric build, hence the AS reds. Any opinions on that?

Also: in which scenarios do you guys find yourself getting Triforce these days? I've been running a Phage->Wit's or Wit's->Phage into Atma's and THEN get my Triforce. I've been toying with the idea of mallet, but I don't see it being such a great item on her. I'd rather get a Giant's Belt, Triforce, then Warmog's. Any opinions on that?

On February 18 2012 07:09 Shiv. wrote:
Thanks for the guidance. In hindsight, dunno what I've been thinking wanting to go Warmog's. The WW comparison is really nice and makes your build look much better than the one I've been doing. Do you get the HoG earlyish if the lane allows it or are you just going Warden's into Omen?

On February 18 2012 06:46 Mogwai wrote:

AS Reds, Armor Yellows, matchup dependent other runes all looks right to me. Would suggest running some HP regen quints in your spec in harass heavy lanes, but it depends on what luxuries you have in terms of rune page availability. AS just outperforms ArPen and AD on Reds, no idea why people would run either of them since Irelia doesn't need help last hitting (AD) nor do you really try to kill people early (ArPen).

Irelia's just WW 2.0, so the idea of building a lot of HP has always struck me as absurd. My builds are always just wriggle's, wit's, triforce, with work towards Omen, GA, or FoN as necessary. More HP than Phage + HoG feels generally like a waste.

For masteries, ehhhh, as OP as offensive tree is, I've finally switched over to 9/21/0 in most matchups. The -2 damage from all sources thing is a lot better than I've been willing to give it credit for and just grabbing a bunch of HP, resists and fuck, even some HP Regen can go a long way towards suring up early lane difficulties. Would still go 21/9/0 if the lane allows, but as soon as I pick Irelia the other team picks some giant asshole to lane vs. me so I just say fuck it, spec defensively and wait out my wriggle's.

EDIT: I actually understand and can accept Mallet on Irelia vs. Singed or Nidalee. It's not ideal, but maxing Q 2nd and grabbing Mallet is a reasonable solution to the getting-kited-to-death-by-an-uncatchable-asshole problem. If you're getting Mallet, wait on the upgrade until after the recurve portion of Wit's at the very least, if not the full Wit's End.

On February 18 2012 08:41 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:

Would there be any other situations where you would pick mallet over say Tri-force from your phage?

Mallet's just a stat inefficient legendary item.