EPT[Champion] Alistar - Page 2
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
(passiviest scenario imagineable): boots +3 pot opener, philos, hog, mobillity, triforce, ghostblade / banshees, either of them which u need the most, upgrade philos / hog / get the either of ghostblade before which you didnt before. With that setup and 21 utillity you will have 40 % cooldown reduction from items, no need to hug a blue pot for that. People should remember that if your team has other tanks you can being a carry hunter instead of a babysitter. Remember to put alistar in with the following lane partners for some lulz: Sion, Poppy, Blitz (either of these are REALLY fucking strong, its not even funny how a grab, good headbut or ANYTHING will kill them if they dont have their summoners). Poppy is self explanatory, flash into pulv, knock back, and poppy will have their way with them if you have a good headbut or not). Sion is just standard stun rape lane but still so strng.. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On March 09 2011 15:51 Iplaythings wrote: I usually include a philos stone (for a shurelia's later which is really good on alistar, dont see why you would want a spirit visage over this, his heal is neglectable when u dont get any AP except sheen) instead of HoG when I am not getting kills (and often before sheen if I can see neither lane is gonna get kills), often when nothing is going on in lanes Id go (passiviest scenario imagineable): boots +3 pot opener, philos, hog, mobillity, triforce, ghostblade / banshees, either of them which u need the most, upgrade philos / hog / get the either of ghostblade before which you didnt before. With that setup and 21 utillity you will have 40 % cooldown reduction from items, no need to hug a blue pot for that. People should remember that if your team has other tanks you can being a carry hunter instead of a babysitter. Remember to put alistar in with the following lane partners for some lulz: Sion, Poppy, Blitz (either of these are REALLY fucking strong, its not even funny how a grab, good headbut or ANYTHING will kill them if they dont have their summoners). Poppy is self explanatory, flash into pulv, knock back, and poppy will have their way with them if you have a good headbut or not). Sion is just standard stun rape lane but still so strng.. Read the guide, Joug is getting SV because of CDR and it's all explained in the guide. Your build seems to be really unreal, how to get so many items as Ali? | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
boots (mobillity) - 1 philos stone ( shurelias) - 2 heart of gold ( rhanduin)- 3 triforce - 4 ghostblade -5 banshees -6 and I think if ur only doing it for the CDR shurelias is better everyway, utillity buff, super laning with philos (the regen really does alot especially if ur roaming) And I did read the guide, I just find SV not worth getting for the CDR after its nerfs.. YOu should only get it on Mundo / WW fx who benefit ALOT by it. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On March 09 2011 19:46 crate wrote: I think Kaniol is more referring to the total cost of your items being something like 15000 gold. I don't get 15000 gold in a reasonably long game as Singed, and there is no way Alistar outfarms Singed even if you add in the gp5 items. I allways list items as priority, consider my build as what i consider as my "goal" and yes, I've tried getitng that before, didnt say you should aim for it, just said which items i get in what order. I dont recall saying that they should allways be gotten, often you finish games only with mobility, hog, philos sheen and phage fx, its not uncommon. If youre actually gonna comment on my item choices then comment on wether they are the optimal choice or not, not how unrealistic it is, because if you know which items are best for your champ most of the time you can allways repriotize on them. for ex after tri force, what would you get? your team is getting caught and you never have cds up? you need damage or utillity ? shurelias or ghostblade. You have trouble staying alive? Banshees for anti caster, omen for anti melee while stile having utillity. Also, one need to understand the awesomeness of shurelias + omen + ghostblade actives. press 1-2-3 and you catch ANYBODY for the next 3 hours. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
 Especially effective in normals where people just push lanes like monkeys | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On March 14 2011 21:50 HazMat wrote: You're delaying your boots of mobility by way too much. I think I mention that I switch it up alot, the thing I delay / dont get is actually HoG triforce, since I find myself getting philos stone and boots of mobillity the earliest. maybe thats just wrong but my gut feeling says its fine | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
health pendant + pot ask your lane partner to let you have the first 365 gold, b and buy philo stone if your bot lane partner is a good 2-skill burster (cho, blitz, jarvan, etc... not ashe, janna, etc) then farm some kills bot, else get another 350 gold and get boots and roam philo/philo/HoG or philo/HoG/HoG depending on enemy teamcomp, plus mobilities, all by about 16 minutes from there you build NLR -> sheen or deathcap -> sheen, -> lichbane your heals will be meaningful, your combo will be brutal, you'll miss the triforce stats but the additional burst damage makes this build much better IMO eventually you build shurelia's and randuins, and fill the last slot with any item of your choosing (pref an AP item tho) and you'll eventually sell mobilities for swifties because when you roam as a team, the movespeed5 doesn't help as much as the movespeed3 constantly in fights does | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 28 2011 17:22 gtrsrs wrote: after playing almost exclusively alistar over the past week, trying every build imaginable, i have come to the conclusion that the following build is the definitive way to play him health pendant + pot ask your lane partner to let you have the first 365 gold, b and buy philo stone if your bot lane partner is a good 2-skill burster (cho, blitz, jarvan, etc... not ashe, janna, etc) then farm some kills bot, else get another 350 gold and get boots and roam philo/philo/HoG or philo/HoG/HoG depending on enemy teamcomp, plus mobilities, all by about 16 minutes from there you build NLR -> sheen or deathcap -> sheen, -> lichbane your heals will be meaningful, your combo will be brutal, you'll miss the triforce stats but the additional burst damage makes this build much better IMO eventually you build shurelia's and randuins, and fill the last slot with any item of your choosing (pref an AP item tho) and you'll eventually sell mobilities for swifties because when you roam as a team, the movespeed5 doesn't help as much as the movespeed3 constantly in fights does Chauster would disagree. AP or AD Cow, never tank cow. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On March 29 2011 02:09 NeoIllusions wrote: Yeah, pretty much I guess. But you need to open Boots => Sheen for early game damage. I like Mobility right after Boots but before Sheen but Chau hates Mobility. zz Zerk / Merc / Sorc isnt a bad choice either, chauster is scary good but he isnt the end and start of LoL | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On March 29 2011 03:37 Mogwai wrote: I guess I'm the only person who doesn't like sheen on Alistar. i don't either it's really expensive and only adds like 100 damage to your gank i'd rather just get another gold/5 item and play for the endgame tbh, ESPECIALLY if i'm not getting a bunch of good ganks early | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
I typically run something like boots -> philo -> boots of mobility -> HoG -> Aegis + Soul Shroud + Reverie in some order -> Omen + Banshee's or FoN in some order. I dunno, I'm pretty amateur with Cow I guess, but I still just hate the Triforce builds and don't understand why people do them . | ||
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