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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
April 27 2011 16:53 GMT
#61
Is it just me or did the Patch really change the way Alister is to be played?

I picked him right after the patch and got 11 kills, I think the most I got pre-patch was 5. It may be that people don't realise he can just Ghost through minions off of a heal, but pre-patch my average game was 0-1/0-3/15+. W can now be used like a second flash if some one is attacking minions, but it would problebly be better to just heal and pass through the minions to keep W off cooldown. I'm starting to think that rushing a leviathan may actually be possible if you're not in the solo lane.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
April 27 2011 16:53 GMT
#62
Just FYI, I think roam/botlane cow is still a lot better, but jungle cow is a fun gimmick. My path and setup can probably be optimized to hell and back, but this is just from a few games of testing.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 27 2011 17:36 GMT
#63
jungle cow ganks like a bawss, but still sucks really hard after the first run. you gotta be donating those buffs 100% of the time after the first run IMO.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 27 2011 18:43 GMT
#64
On April 28 2011 01:53 Sabin010 wrote:
Is it just me or did the Patch really change the way Alister is to be played?

I picked him right after the patch and got 11 kills, I think the most I got pre-patch was 5. It may be that people don't realise he can just Ghost through minions off of a heal, but pre-patch my average game was 0-1/0-3/15+. W can now be used like a second flash if some one is attacking minions, but it would problebly be better to just heal and pass through the minions to keep W off cooldown. I'm starting to think that rushing a leviathan may actually be possible if you're not in the solo lane.

Sorry but it's ALISTAR not Alister or Alistair.

Sry just a pet peeve of mine.
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Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 20:49:15
April 27 2011 20:34 GMT
#65
I warned you about those alistairs bro.

In other news, head-butt > pulverize combo taken out was unintended and will be patched back in.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 21:01:21
April 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#66
On April 28 2011 03:43 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 01:53 Sabin010 wrote:
Is it just me or did the Patch really change the way Alister is to be played?

I picked him right after the patch and got 11 kills, I think the most I got pre-patch was 5. It may be that people don't realise he can just Ghost through minions off of a heal, but pre-patch my average game was 0-1/0-3/15+. W can now be used like a second flash if some one is attacking minions, but it would problebly be better to just heal and pass through the minions to keep W off cooldown. I'm starting to think that rushing a leviathan may actually be possible if you're not in the solo lane.

Sorry but it's ALISTAR not Alister or Alistair.

Sry just a pet peeve of mine.


lol nvm
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SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
April 27 2011 21:32 GMT
#67
On April 28 2011 05:34 Lanzoma wrote:
I warned you about those alistairs bro.

In other news, head-butt > pulverize combo taken out was unintended and will be patched back in.

These be some good news.
So zen.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2011 09:50 GMT
#68
Man, twice in this game now I haven't been able to move at all with Alistar...seems to happen when I mash a couple skills and he gets locked up. This happen lately to anyone?
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 30 2011 10:02 GMT
#69
On April 30 2011 18:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man, twice in this game now I haven't been able to move at all with Alistar...seems to happen when I mash a couple skills and he gets locked up. This happen lately to anyone?

LOL that happened to me once. I thought it was lag/me being retarded but I guess not
:)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
April 30 2011 10:17 GMT
#70
Hmm... what do you guys think, is after the patch AP or AD the way to go?

Just had a nice game with roaming cow where I stacked HoG/Philostones -> Sheen -> Deathcap -> Lichbane -> Zhonyas.

QW was something retarded like 1.4k damage.


It feels as if AD / AP / Aurabitch are all perfectly viable.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
April 30 2011 15:53 GMT
#71
On April 28 2011 05:34 Lanzoma wrote:
In other news, head-butt > pulverize combo taken out was unintended and will be patched back in.

Even after the hotfix that "fixed" this, I'm still unable to perform the combo 90% of the time. So either I'm doing it wrong, or it doesn't work properly vs. bots (was testing it in a practice game), or the combo doesn't work most of the time, now.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 30 2011 16:28 GMT
#72
It works perfectly.

Make it auto-smartcast, and W->Q as fast as possible.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 30 2011 16:33 GMT
#73
need high apm yo
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 30 2011 18:05 GMT
#74
On May 01 2011 01:33 0123456789 wrote:
need high apm yo

this is a lie, I play with about 2 apm because I suck and I can get the ali combo off... something's definitely weird if I can do it and you can't
:)
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 03:02:08
May 01 2011 02:44 GMT
#75
On May 01 2011 01:28 Juicyfruit wrote:
It works perfectly.

Make it auto-smartcast, and W->Q as fast as possible.

Oh wow.

I'd never used smartcast before, so I looked up how to auto-smartcast, rebound my q-w-e keys to smartcast on those spells, and chaining Ali's W->Q is sooo easy now @_X

With Brand free to play this week, chaining his E->Q also feels a LOT faster with auto-smartcast on, I bet this is also true for several other champions like Ryze and Jarman. Thanks for the tip, I need to try auto-smartcast some more, see if I can get used to it; it sounds like it could be a straight-up superior setup.

I'm uncertain about auto-smartcasting R though, on some champions like Lux, Maokai, Fiddlesticks, Anivia, Annie and MF, it sounds like being a little slower on the cast is an acceptable tradeoff in exchange for being able to see the targeting reticle and making sure you aim your ult just right.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 03:01:07
May 01 2011 03:00 GMT
#76
Blegh, meant to edit previous post
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
May 01 2011 03:25 GMT
#77
On May 01 2011 11:44 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 01:28 Juicyfruit wrote:
It works perfectly.

Make it auto-smartcast, and W->Q as fast as possible.

Oh wow.

I'd never used smartcast before, so I looked up how to auto-smartcast, rebound my q-w-e keys to smartcast on those spells, and chaining Ali's W->Q is sooo easy now @_X

With Brand free to play this week, chaining his E->Q also feels a LOT faster with auto-smartcast on, I bet this is also true for several other champions like Ryze and Jarman. Thanks for the tip, I need to try auto-smartcast some more, see if I can get used to it; it sounds like it could be a straight-up superior setup.

I'm uncertain about auto-smartcasting R though, on some champions like Lux, Maokai, Fiddlesticks, Anivia, Annie and MF, it sounds like being a little slower on the cast is an acceptable tradeoff in exchange for being able to see the targeting reticle and making sure you aim your ult just right.

I rebound shift-QWER to normal cast, so I can line up cross-map Ashe arrows the usual way but still have instant-cast point blank arrows if someone jumps on me for example.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 16:31:30
May 01 2011 16:15 GMT
#78
On May 01 2011 12:25 starfries wrote:
I rebound shift-QWER to normal cast, so I can line up cross-map Ashe arrows the usual way but still have instant-cast point blank arrows if someone jumps on me for example.

How did you do this? If I try to bind, say, Cast Spell 1 to Shift+Q, I get an error message saying "Cast Spell 1 cannot be bound as specified".

EDIT: Nvm, found out it works if you edit it directly on the Input file @ C:/Riot Games/League of Legends/game/DATA/CFG to look like this

evtCastSpell1=[Shift][q]
evtCastSpell2=[Shift][w]
evtCastSpell3=[Shift][e]
evtCastSpell4=[r]
evtSmartCastSpell1=[q]
evtSmartCastSpell2=[w]
evtSmartCastSpell3=[e]
evtSmartCastSpell4=[Shift][r]

(I still prefer having R to not be smart cast)
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slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 23:45:31
May 03 2011 23:39 GMT
#79
I'm confused, how would it auto q after a w? you hold shift w then it hits the champ and auto qs?

Edit: Oh I see, its just so you can react faster
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
May 04 2011 02:49 GMT
#80
So, a friend linked me this Alistar vid:


I know, his opponents are caught at low HP in bad places all game long, the Alistar is massively fed and the comment near the end that says "ive never played against an ali before" is pretty telling. But what the vid taught me is that apparently, even though the patch notes don't mention it, Headbutt stuns targets for a significant time after moving them now.
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