• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:26
CET 12:26
KST 20:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies0ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1262 users

[Champion] Shaco - Page 4

Forum Index > LoL Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 18 19 20 Next All
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 12 2010 10:10 GMT
#61
goddamnit
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 12 2010 14:39 GMT
#62
On December 07 2010 00:59 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 00:52 AtlaS wrote:
The only way I don't get crushed is if I don't engage in a team fight until a few seconds after the initiation, where I jump in and kill off the stragglers and non-tankies.


This is exactly what you're supposed to do


Problem is if your team is already at a disadvantage. If you wait, your team gets crushed. You don't wait, you get crushed.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 15:06:11
December 12 2010 15:01 GMT
#63
Not really. It's only a matter of seconds that you should wait before engaging. Just the time it takes for Malphite to ult in, Ryze to spell flux, then everyone squishy caught in that will likely be (at the very most) on 60% HP, making them your ideal target to start beating on.

That way, you take out one of their key champs and have the luxury of being able to choose to 5v4 them (or 5.5v4 them, if you whip your clone out), or just back out to safety if you are at low health.


edit - Oh, I think I must have misread your post, cascades. Feel free to ignore what I just said as it doesn't really adress the issue you raised.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 12 2010 17:14 GMT
#64
has anyone here saved the reginald guide on shaco? he removed it completely from his guide and i forgot what runes he used for him.

i have enough IP to buy a new set for shaco, so if enyone remembers it, please post.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 12 2010 17:57 GMT
#65
On December 13 2010 02:14 LaNague wrote:
has anyone here saved the reginald guide on shaco? he removed it completely from his guide and i forgot what runes he used for him.

i have enough IP to buy a new set for shaco, so if enyone remembers it, please post.


you could just look at his profile and see that he uses apen reds, aspeed yellows and blues, and 2hp quints with 1 apen quint as his 'dps/jungle' page
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 18:16:47
December 12 2010 18:16 GMT
#66
i am on the wrong server for that


thanks for looking it up for me
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 18:21:14
December 12 2010 18:20 GMT
#67
On December 13 2010 03:16 LaNague wrote:
i am on the wrong server for that


thanks for looking it up for me


ah, npnp then, glad to help

dont mind me, im just an ignorant american
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Kratisto
Profile Joined June 2008
United States199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 09:09:41
December 13 2010 09:09 GMT
#68
Having seen Reginald's video, what exactly is the advantage of doing twin golems and lizard first instead of blue. In practice runs, I can usually clear the jungle faster if I start at wolves and blue (about 4:30, which seems a bit slow, but I don't have an optimal rune setup yet). As for items, I really cringe at the idea of buying Wriggel's Lantern as it seems like an unnecessary distraction from getting bloodrazors and more damaging items.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 13 2010 09:35 GMT
#69
You can level 2 gank with red buff when they're level 1.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 13 2010 09:36 GMT
#70
Don't focus so much on how fast you are clearing the jungle. Anyone can kill creeps. It doesn't matter how fast you clear it, it matters how fast you gank/dragon/control buffs/counter jungle.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 13 2010 10:16 GMT
#71
I remember eXes raping kids up at bottom lane with Shaco when he first game up. 3 JitBs could nail a hero down to under half life.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 13 2010 12:29 GMT
#72
On December 13 2010 18:09 Kratisto wrote:
Having seen Reginald's video, what exactly is the advantage of doing twin golems and lizard first instead of blue. In practice runs, I can usually clear the jungle faster if I start at wolves and blue (about 4:30, which seems a bit slow, but I don't have an optimal rune setup yet). As for items, I really cringe at the idea of buying Wriggel's Lantern as it seems like an unnecessary distraction from getting bloodrazors and more damaging items.



It is the fastest way, noone has found a way to do it faster with shaco (3:45)
The faster you clear the jungle, the safer you are from ganks from the enemy jungler, the better you can gank lanes or their jungler etc.

Btw, if you look for a fast jungle route, you need to start at the red side. The damage bonus is significant.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
December 13 2010 13:37 GMT
#73
Playing EU Solo Q Ranked 1500~ and good Shaco players are just destroying my team occasionally when he gets picked. He just ganks clueless people through invis and gets easy kills. Them getting FBed by a lvl 2 red gank is so predictable. Had another game were he destroyed our jungle Olaf too. =/
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 17 2010 20:19 GMT
#74
I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread nor did I see this in the patch notes, but did anyone notice that turrets now prefer shacos clone rather than minion? what the hell, backdooring was our main purpose late game and now they really hurt one of our best abilities to backdoor with
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 17 2010 20:28 GMT
#75
that's the way turrets have always treated pets like voidlings and tibbers
it's my first day
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
December 17 2010 23:06 GMT
#76
Shaco's clone has been #1 target for a while from turrets. Sometimes it doesn't get focused.. those are the lucky times.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 18 2010 06:53 GMT
#77
really? that is so odd, i can't remember my clone ever being targeted before a minion until this patch. so odd
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 18 2010 18:45 GMT
#78
On December 18 2010 15:53 AtlaS wrote:
really? that is so odd, i can't remember my clone ever being targeted before a minion until this patch. so odd

Yeah but its convienient

Tower diving is gonna be a breeze

Oh and for any of you who didnt know it, using the clone is like the old flash, dodges projectiles and spells (such as panth leap fx)
In the woods, there lurks..
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
December 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#79
And even Karthus' ulti.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 18 2010 19:44 GMT
#80
its better, it removes shaco from the map completely for a short time.


Also, reginald will be releasing a shaco tutorial/guide video in the next days. He knows what he is doing with shaco. I guess it will be posted at solomid first.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 18 19 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
WardiTV Mondays #65
CranKy Ducklings243
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 90
trigger 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2128
Bisu 978
GuemChi 628
Stork 388
Soma 351
Larva 350
firebathero 284
Light 193
Mini 185
Sharp 181
[ Show more ]
Aegong 123
Killer 116
PianO 111
ggaemo 88
hero 82
ZerO 78
Rush 75
JYJ 72
Pusan 63
Snow 60
ToSsGirL 47
soO 43
Mong 37
sorry 36
Sea.KH 33
yabsab 26
Movie 25
ajuk12(nOOB) 23
NotJumperer 20
Shinee 14
zelot 11
SilentControl 10
Terrorterran 9
Sacsri 9
Noble 8
Bale 4
Icarus 2
Dota 2
singsing2273
XcaliburYe645
League of Legends
JimRising 355
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2365
x6flipin328
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor171
Other Games
summit1g8435
Fuzer 212
crisheroes211
XaKoH 187
Mew2King78
nookyyy 67
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 4
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 43
• LUISG 39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1986
• Stunt495
• HappyZerGling125
Other Games
• WagamamaTV277
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
34m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 34m
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.