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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 12 2010 10:10 GMT
#61
goddamnit
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 12 2010 14:39 GMT
#62
On December 07 2010 00:59 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 00:52 AtlaS wrote:
The only way I don't get crushed is if I don't engage in a team fight until a few seconds after the initiation, where I jump in and kill off the stragglers and non-tankies.


This is exactly what you're supposed to do


Problem is if your team is already at a disadvantage. If you wait, your team gets crushed. You don't wait, you get crushed.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 15:06:11
December 12 2010 15:01 GMT
#63
Not really. It's only a matter of seconds that you should wait before engaging. Just the time it takes for Malphite to ult in, Ryze to spell flux, then everyone squishy caught in that will likely be (at the very most) on 60% HP, making them your ideal target to start beating on.

That way, you take out one of their key champs and have the luxury of being able to choose to 5v4 them (or 5.5v4 them, if you whip your clone out), or just back out to safety if you are at low health.


edit - Oh, I think I must have misread your post, cascades. Feel free to ignore what I just said as it doesn't really adress the issue you raised.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 12 2010 17:14 GMT
#64
has anyone here saved the reginald guide on shaco? he removed it completely from his guide and i forgot what runes he used for him.

i have enough IP to buy a new set for shaco, so if enyone remembers it, please post.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 12 2010 17:57 GMT
#65
On December 13 2010 02:14 LaNague wrote:
has anyone here saved the reginald guide on shaco? he removed it completely from his guide and i forgot what runes he used for him.

i have enough IP to buy a new set for shaco, so if enyone remembers it, please post.


you could just look at his profile and see that he uses apen reds, aspeed yellows and blues, and 2hp quints with 1 apen quint as his 'dps/jungle' page
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 18:16:47
December 12 2010 18:16 GMT
#66
i am on the wrong server for that


thanks for looking it up for me
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 18:21:14
December 12 2010 18:20 GMT
#67
On December 13 2010 03:16 LaNague wrote:
i am on the wrong server for that


thanks for looking it up for me


ah, npnp then, glad to help

dont mind me, im just an ignorant american
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Kratisto
Profile Joined June 2008
United States199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 09:09:41
December 13 2010 09:09 GMT
#68
Having seen Reginald's video, what exactly is the advantage of doing twin golems and lizard first instead of blue. In practice runs, I can usually clear the jungle faster if I start at wolves and blue (about 4:30, which seems a bit slow, but I don't have an optimal rune setup yet). As for items, I really cringe at the idea of buying Wriggel's Lantern as it seems like an unnecessary distraction from getting bloodrazors and more damaging items.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 13 2010 09:35 GMT
#69
You can level 2 gank with red buff when they're level 1.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 13 2010 09:36 GMT
#70
Don't focus so much on how fast you are clearing the jungle. Anyone can kill creeps. It doesn't matter how fast you clear it, it matters how fast you gank/dragon/control buffs/counter jungle.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 13 2010 10:16 GMT
#71
I remember eXes raping kids up at bottom lane with Shaco when he first game up. 3 JitBs could nail a hero down to under half life.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 13 2010 12:29 GMT
#72
On December 13 2010 18:09 Kratisto wrote:
Having seen Reginald's video, what exactly is the advantage of doing twin golems and lizard first instead of blue. In practice runs, I can usually clear the jungle faster if I start at wolves and blue (about 4:30, which seems a bit slow, but I don't have an optimal rune setup yet). As for items, I really cringe at the idea of buying Wriggel's Lantern as it seems like an unnecessary distraction from getting bloodrazors and more damaging items.



It is the fastest way, noone has found a way to do it faster with shaco (3:45)
The faster you clear the jungle, the safer you are from ganks from the enemy jungler, the better you can gank lanes or their jungler etc.

Btw, if you look for a fast jungle route, you need to start at the red side. The damage bonus is significant.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
December 13 2010 13:37 GMT
#73
Playing EU Solo Q Ranked 1500~ and good Shaco players are just destroying my team occasionally when he gets picked. He just ganks clueless people through invis and gets easy kills. Them getting FBed by a lvl 2 red gank is so predictable. Had another game were he destroyed our jungle Olaf too. =/
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 17 2010 20:19 GMT
#74
I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread nor did I see this in the patch notes, but did anyone notice that turrets now prefer shacos clone rather than minion? what the hell, backdooring was our main purpose late game and now they really hurt one of our best abilities to backdoor with
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 17 2010 20:28 GMT
#75
that's the way turrets have always treated pets like voidlings and tibbers
it's my first day
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
December 17 2010 23:06 GMT
#76
Shaco's clone has been #1 target for a while from turrets. Sometimes it doesn't get focused.. those are the lucky times.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
December 18 2010 06:53 GMT
#77
really? that is so odd, i can't remember my clone ever being targeted before a minion until this patch. so odd
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 18 2010 18:45 GMT
#78
On December 18 2010 15:53 AtlaS wrote:
really? that is so odd, i can't remember my clone ever being targeted before a minion until this patch. so odd

Yeah but its convienient

Tower diving is gonna be a breeze

Oh and for any of you who didnt know it, using the clone is like the old flash, dodges projectiles and spells (such as panth leap fx)
In the woods, there lurks..
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
December 18 2010 18:49 GMT
#79
And even Karthus' ulti.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 18 2010 19:44 GMT
#80
its better, it removes shaco from the map completely for a short time.


Also, reginald will be releasing a shaco tutorial/guide video in the next days. He knows what he is doing with shaco. I guess it will be posted at solomid first.
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