Ok, I've got my olaf groove back. I had a long stint with Rammus which obliterated my good vibes with the bromeister.

First off, buy brolaf. Derp Bro.

Skill order I've been using: WQWEER R>E>W>Q
Masteries, 1/8/21 is preferred, but it gets me killed too much so I go 1/14/15. If you're not a baddie try out the first one.

Next I go cloth+5 hp, start big wolf. Kill big wolf and run to blue golem. Golem should spawn about a second before you arrive. Doing this gets you a faster jungle from using spawn times more efficiently, plus as an extra olaf bonus you start with more attack speed on golem which helps a lot.

Go big wolf -> golem -> wolves -> wraiths -> lizard -> small golems -> gank
You should be able to use your last HP pot to get almost full HP for your gank attempt and it comes so fast that people just aren't expecting it. I try to ping the target as I'm finishing golems so that the lane partners know what's up.

Item order:

HoG -> merc treads -> chainmail / negatrons / giants belt as needed based on the enemy -> build out items

For magic resist I prefer FoN over banshees
For armor I get randuins if laning phase is still going on (slow game) or sunfire if groups have started forming. I prefer sunfire overall as it is a superb farming item to make up for olaf's single target tendencies.
If I'm building HP first (IE: Don't know who's dangerous yet) I usually end up with a frozen mallet as my 3rd item.

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

December 07 2010 18:17 GMT

#43

Thanks Ghen, since your guide suggests getting brolaf i think it's good enough to link in the OP. If anyone thinks i should change the way guides are put into the OP or have anything other to say (hey, your olaf sux! etc etc.) pm me with suggestion or post in this thread

cascades

Singapore6122 Posts

December 07 2010 18:35 GMT

#44

On November 24 2010 23:43 byFd wrote:
brolaf is fucking hilarious, gonna play olaf the next games till he is released and then BROMACIA or whatever he was shouting :D

That is indeed what he s shuting. Meh, I thought that demacia meme has gotten old.

ghen

United States1356 Posts

December 09 2010 18:36 GMT

#45

New olaf build I'm working on...

HoG->merc treads->spirit visage->atmas

I think it requires another HoG though

HoG->HoG->merc treads->SV->atmas

Still working on it!

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

December 09 2010 18:47 GMT

#46

What's new about that build?
The visage?

ghen

United States1356 Posts

December 09 2010 18:53 GMT

#47

and the Atmas

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 14 2011 23:50 GMT

#48

So has anyone played olaf since the nerfs/rebuffs? Whats the deal with him these days?

Brees

Marshall Islands3404 Posts

January 14 2011 23:55 GMT

#49

you lane with him instead of jungling, solo top if they put a beefy melee up there or solo mid

max Q then E, 1 point in W at level 2 to stay in lane longer

sanman

United States16 Posts

January 15 2011 06:29 GMT

#50

On January 15 2011 08:55 Brees wrote:
you lane with him instead of jungling, solo top if they put a beefy melee up there or solo mid

max Q then E, 1 point in W at level 2 to stay in lane longer

lol

Still one of the best jungle characters around, up there with rammus/trundle/udyr/shaco/ww/etc

Ever since the axe change though I put points in to that earlier and worry less about true damage maxage asap. Actually I level up all three somewhat evenly, leaving w at 3 in mid game and leaving it for last nowadays. Max axe toss gives you much better farming skills, so in the end I like having it leveled up a bit.

Just because you can lane olaf doesn't mean you should. ;p

BluzMan

Russian Federation4235 Posts

February 07 2011 19:38 GMT

#51

Idk, I'm not really a fan of HoG first on Olaf since skipping Lantern means your jungling AND laning is slow as hell. In fact, everything that makes jungle Olaf good early (fastest jungler in the game right?) is his passive but you really don't want to stay at low health for a long time, but alas, with full HP he's a very bad jungler. Randuin has been nerfed the hell out of, compare 8% CDR to 25% CDR, I don't like it that much anymore since it doesn't give that batshit crazy E DPS now. Don't forget that Lantern is a tank item as well, since it gives Armor and plenty of lifesteal. Considering that you will be getting Atma's as a closer item anyway, going one more armor item over other stuff seems one-sided.

You will have more HP simply by leveling up faster, btw.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

February 07 2011 19:40 GMT

#52

On January 15 2011 15:29 sanman wrote:

Show nested quote +

Just because you can lane olaf doesn't mean you should. ;p

olaf destroys so hard in lane against any melee champ
E doesn't grab creep aggro, punish them every time they try to last-hit and use W to stay at full health, Q to harass if they're being pussies
seriously seriously underrated laning champ

barbsq

United States5348 Posts

February 07 2011 19:57 GMT

#53

especially when ur undertow gets a doublehit, huehuehue bye bye 1/2 hp

BouBou.865

Netherlands814 Posts

February 07 2011 20:20 GMT

#54

Gts, whenever I try to lane the way you say I should, I run oom in 10 seconds flat. Maybe it's my build? I go:

Doran's Shield
Phage/ruby chrystal/boots 1/longsword/any mix
Finish merc threads
Giant's belt
Frozen mallet
Either something Magic Resistesque like FoN or Banshee's, or Atma's Impaler
Never really got this far, Phantom Dancer or Bloodthirster?

Using my T2 shen rune page, will soon be level 20 with some IP to burn. I just can't seem to out harass a Shen, unless he lets me facial him everytime with Undertow.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

February 07 2011 20:34 GMT

#55

Jungle olaf ftw in my opinion. From watching the clg stream I think I've picked up Kobe's route, and if it isnt it, I still like it a hell of a lot. 9-0-21, aspeed and 1 arm pen in offensive, utility is 2 in reduced death, ghost and whatever the typical 3 is, cant remember atm, exp, gold, 1 mana, 2 utility. armpen reds, 2 armpen quints and an ad quint, arm yellows, cd blues.

Skills: WQWEER R>E>W>Q, cloth+5. Start at 2 golems, hit w and attack, pop a pot. wait till you have at lease 60 health gone, about 3/4 though your w. Then smite the one you were attacking, kill it, switch to the other. get q, go to wraiths. w, then q then attack big wraith, then little ones, popping another pot. kill wolves w then q, then pop a pot and go to blue. kill blue, making sure to smite with w up so you get the health. you shouldnt need a pot here, so you end this phase with cloth and 2 pots. go b to heal, grabbing boots, a pot, and a ward. go do mini golems again, then red. popping pots, you should be full health with a pot left, red and blue, and level 4. drop your ward at drag, then gank the shit out of everyone. olafs ganks are pretty damn strong because of your ability to do true damage, hit hard with w, slow with red and q, not to mention a boots advantage at that point.

Then go get wriggles and start to build tanky, HOG or 2, BV, Phage, perhaps a bruta into GB if you feel your significantly tanky.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

February 07 2011 20:41 GMT

#56

On February 08 2011 05:20 BouBou.865 wrote:
Gts, whenever I try to lane the way you say I should, I run oom in 10 seconds flat. Maybe it's my build? I go:

Doran's Shield
Phage/ruby chrystal/boots 1/longsword/any mix
Finish merc threads
Giant's belt
Frozen mallet
Either something Magic Resistesque like FoN or Banshee's, or Atma's Impaler
Never really got this far, Phantom Dancer or Bloodthirster?

Using my T2 shen rune page, will soon be level 20 with some IP to burn. I just can't seem to out harass a Shen, unless he lets me facial him everytime with Undertow.

i mean i don't see anything intrinsically wrong with that build (other than i go swifties on olaf not mercs)

it's probably your runes. i think the mana changes probably helped olaf to give him more mana to burn in lane, but you should probably be running mp5/level yellows so by level 5/6/7 you can spam E and Q pretty easily

if that's not helping you might consider starting catalyst for the mana and mana regen on level and finish bveil later

and MS quints on olaf too imo

oh yeah against shen specifically it's kinda hard to say (i've never actually had that matchup on either side tbh). his burst early is definitely greater so you don't want to engage too early. i think you need to lull him into not taking a level of W by not trying to harass too much and then when you can beat him in a fight (5 maybe? definitely 6 with your ult) just go balls to the wall on him. if neither of you backed to buy you'll destroy him imo

barbsq

United States5348 Posts

February 07 2011 21:08 GMT

#57

if you trade an undertow with a vorpal, i'm pretty sure olaf wins, undertow just does shitloads of dmg. use w in between harass to heal back, w heal > vorpal heal, not to mention if he vorpals a creep an undertow puts you ahead in harass. this is just theory tho, i never see solo top shens in the first place, so its hard to test, but thats how i would approach the mu

edit: also boubou, you're missing omen from ur item list, super awesome item on prolaf, but yeah, i agree with gtrsrs in that it looks fine to me.

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

February 08 2011 00:40 GMT

#58

Putting shen solotop vs Olaf is just dumb.

BouBou.865

Netherlands814 Posts

February 08 2011 07:04 GMT

#59

On February 08 2011 09:40 Juicyfruit wrote:
Putting shen solotop vs Olaf is just dumb.

I know it's dumb, but I don't even play ranked yet. It was more of a hypothetical situation, because from experience I know that Shen is incredible in lane versus melee champs, and I didn't see how Olaf (with my mana problems) would be able to stop him from last hitting everything.

Gtrs, I'll get Mana/5 yellows. Flat, or per level? Or should my first buy be Apen reds?