Olaf is impossible for me too, don't worry. I can start off quite strong, but afterwards they hug turret and I can't gank and I get really squishy, rawr.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

March 30 2011 18:48 GMT

#123

http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=550

Oddone's guide

BouBou.865

Netherlands814 Posts

March 30 2011 18:56 GMT

#124

I guess I'll try him out then. Nunu is such dead weight late game : /

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

March 31 2011 00:01 GMT

#125

OddOne makes it look real easy, but I'm not sure I subscribe to his newsletter.
I find Olaf ganking to be incredibly difficult if you don't get a lot of teammate help (which he has for every single one he shows, ie grabs/stuns/knockups).
Not to mention he doesn't addresses mana issues which spamming Q will cause for you. Olaf runs out of mana VERY quickly without blue and probably suffers the most from not having both buffs when he ganks aside from maybe WW.
I just don't understand how he can advocate Q spamming at all times...how can you afford that once the buff wears off? He also seems to downplay the amount that leveling W helps in a 1v1 fight...he just mentions that Olaf has a great 1v1, but it's W that allows him to do it so well...if you don't level it until 15 his ability to do that until lategame becomes hampered.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

March 31 2011 00:23 GMT

#126

If you get the hang of olaf ganks, you are a terror. Hitting a single q is generally enough to get a kill, since q+red is enough to keep someone permaslowed, and q+e is enough to burst nearly anyone down incredibly quickly. Is he better with help? Sure, but what jungle isnt. The fact that your initiate isnt your ultimate like it is with nocturne or ww is a big deal in terms of being a constant threat.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

March 31 2011 00:32 GMT

#127

Cho's initiate isn't his ultimate either and it's arguably better than Olaf's. Same with Amumu's (though after landing Bandage Toss you need a lot of help there as well.)

I dunno I always found Olaf to be my worst jungler (and I play Eve.) and I'm not sure why. I'll try out OddOne's Q-centric approach but at my skill level I doubt I'll be successful.

I also REALLY need to learn to counterjungle. It's the one skill I don't have at all in this game yet.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

March 31 2011 00:42 GMT

#128

Two_DoWn's steps to counterjungling:

1: know or at least be aquatinted with every single jungler's path and speed, as well as any alternate paths they can take

2: Watch TheOddOne's nunu vid.

3: Pick nunu, grab CV and Smite since your team is going to be too stupid to grab it for you.

4: Rape face

Tooplark

United States3977 Posts

March 31 2011 02:37 GMT

#129

The problem with Olaf es I cannot throw axe so good, no es viable caracter.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

March 31 2011 03:32 GMT

#130

es my problemo tambien.

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

March 31 2011 04:20 GMT

#131

Get triforce, never worry about missing axe because you catch up and slow dem first.

BouBou.865

Netherlands814 Posts

March 31 2011 07:49 GMT

#132

On March 31 2011 13:20 Juicyfruit wrote:
Get triforce, never worry about missing axe because you catch up and slow dem first.

At what point should I be getting Triforce? After wriggle/merc/HoG?

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

April 07 2011 04:52 GMT

#133

just because i've been seeing a TON of olafs lately and this really bothers me

EVERY TIME YOU BUILD ZERKERS ON OLAF, A PUPPY DIES OF CANCER

Brees

Marshall Islands3404 Posts

April 07 2011 06:24 GMT

#134

you dont want triforce on olaf, just stack mr and hp since you shit on AD

I went back to jungling btw, solotop not as funny without doublehit bug

Shiragaku

Hong Kong4308 Posts

April 21 2011 19:37 GMT

#135

Is getting Randuin's still viable on Olaf? Also, is it still viable to get Heart of Gold early on?

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

April 21 2011 20:25 GMT

#136

IMO its best just to skip HOG and just get a giants belt straight up.

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

April 21 2011 20:40 GMT

#137

Yeah, just get gian's belt, you want to upgrade it to either warmogs or mallet anyway.

TacToSs

Australia330 Posts

April 23 2011 05:45 GMT

#138

I've been alternating between getting HoG or not, I really just like getting that giants belt to get me closer to mallet. I haven't gotten omen in ages on anyone, I don't know why but I just don't feel it anymore. I've been getting atmas all the time now with mallet and veil. If game goes longer I'll either get FoN or something else for armor which will probably be a sunfire or something.