[Patch 10.2] Dragon Slayer/Guardians Discussion - Page 3

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

January 31 2020 20:00 GMT

#41

This image has been a game changer for me. Having the frame of reference on travel time let's you eek out they tiny little bit extra presence on objectives / ganks / duels without overstaying. Have always just kind of guessed by feel, and it either worked out or didn't and I kinda just went "well shucks."

It's a skill you use a lot, judging timing by distance. Never thought to time it out and have a quick reference before.

Bladeorade

United States1898 Posts

January 31 2020 20:35 GMT

#42

So I do not understand why ER into IE is the preferred build for ADCs right now.

Can someone explain why this is better than BF Sword item into Zeal item?

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

January 31 2020 20:50 GMT

#43

I think it's two things; one meta ADCs at the moment have a ton of ability damage, and they scale from that. Two, top 10 mid lane picks at the moment are Diana, Akali, Talon, Fizz, Qiyana, Yasuo, LeBlanc, Zed, Kassidin, and Katarina; when you can't actually auto attack between running away you might as well make sure your sparse autos you can get off hurt, because AS doesn't do much for you against a Fizz.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

January 31 2020 21:38 GMT

#44

MF gets ER IE because with just upgraded boots she's hitting like 2.00 AS with just 3 points in W at lv 11. Also her ultimate crits. Don't think anyone else really plays with that build, except Aphelios because he has built in AS and his kit basically doesn't care if he delays AS (finally starting to learn this dumb champ).

Wouldn't say it's the presence of bursty champions being viable resulting in AD focused ADC early builds, but rather because Aphelios/Senna/MF/Lucian are all strong if not broken, and they are all fairly ability focused with DPS from AA being a free bonus perk from being an ADC. Xayah/Kai'Sa are still viable and do build Zeal as first/second T3 item.

Bladeorade

United States1898 Posts

January 31 2020 21:43 GMT

#45

On February 01 2020 06:38 DarkCore wrote:
MF gets ER IE because with just upgraded boots she's hitting like 2.00 AS with just 3 points in W at lv 11. Also her ultimate crits. Don't think anyone else really plays with that build, except Aphelios because he has built in AS and his kit basically doesn't care if he delays AS (finally starting to learn this dumb champ).

Wouldn't say it's the presence of bursty champions being viable resulting in AD focused ADC early builds, but rather because Aphelios/Senna/MF/Lucian are all strong if not broken, and they are all fairly ability focused with DPS from AA being a free bonus perk from being an ADC. Xayah/Kai'Sa are still viable and do build Zeal as first/second T3 item.

Xayah was building ER into IE in pro play and Kaisa was going rageblade 2nd

but yeah it was MF, Aphelios and Xayah and they are all so different so i was confused

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

January 31 2020 22:05 GMT

#46

Xayah can build ER IE first because of lethal tempo, but I think a lot of times pros prefer Rapidfire because it's safer and also because the long range lets you proc temp early, so that when you actually get into real AA range it's almost charged. Lets you choose your fights, but that's a mechanic that only comes into play when you're really good. I think IE ER gives more DPS though, and is also burstier.

I didn't phrase the last sentence correctly, I should've said AS not Zeal, you're right with Rageblade for Kai'Sa.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8594 Posts

February 01 2020 02:14 GMT

#47

xayah gets ie 2nd because her w is a huge aspd steroid anyway.

Bladeorade

United States1898 Posts

February 04 2020 19:34 GMT

#48

Man what happened to this forum? Is everyone just on reddit now? I feel like the LoL sub reddit is too big to actually have any value. Is there another forum like how this one used to be?

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

February 04 2020 20:21 GMT

#49

On February 05 2020 04:34 Bladeorade wrote:
Man what happened to this forum? Is everyone just on reddit now? I feel like the LoL sub reddit is too big to actually have any value. Is there another forum like how this one used to be?

Main issue really is I think when we got split off from TL, we just slowly bleed people who leave and go play other games while not adding a whole lot of people.

Also I'm almost a decade older now than when I first started playing league. I simply can't spend hours every day grinding ranked any more, so I'm significantly less invested in the game.

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