[Patch 6.20] Ivern General Discussion - Page 6

On October 12 2016 22:20 Jek wrote:
Oppressor is for movement impairment, which blind is not. It work with his shrooms.

If you start with Guradian's I think you should wait for corrupting potion (huuuuge advantage for early trades) it only take 10 seconds iirc. It's the cheesy 1v1 version of the current "wait for aegis" meta on tanks in regular aram.

I'd go for hybrid reds instead, especially if you're not going full AP which I honestly think would be bad as you can just go Cowl+sustain into Visage and wear the AP variant down for the gg ez. Another alternative could be AS reds too to win the early push forcing the opponent to either tank minion damage or allow some easy chip damage. AD reds if you start with LS seems like a better option.

After some consideration LS quints would probably the best and allow you to stay in lane forever. Sustain is king when you cannot recall for health.

I think Shiv (or hurricane I suppose) would probably be the best first buys simply because you can push so much faster without using mana. Dont look to trade, look to push and chip damage get the sustain from masteries instead of additional items.

For masteries I'd go 12/7/12 if you wait for corrupting.
Stash+Corruping = super good good.
the 11 and 12 for Vampirism and Perserverance. Resolves and Ferocity's 12th point seem bad for 1v1.

and 18/0/12 if you dont wait for corrupting
Warlord and Perserverance

or 9/17/4
For Vampirism, Percision and Recovery.

Fervor is only really worth if you look for kills, which you shouldn't - no reason to play risky when a sustain build would just do small trades and win over time.

If the opponent is going AP just grab banner and upgrade all cannons.

On October 13 2016 15:30 cLutZ wrote:


Decent idea. I do think they need to remake the map if they want to fix the jungle. One thing they consistently fret about is the laners taxing jungle camps. Maybe they shouldn't have 3/5 camps immediately adjacent to and easily accessible from a lane.

Hell that even kills 2 birds with 1 stone because junglers actually have to make a meaningful choice between farming and being in gank/countergank position.

On October 14 2016 02:33 Slusher wrote:

One idea I had for making ganks more viable was giving baseline smite a debuff where killing a smited opponent gave kill gold to all assists. Not sure if that is actually a good idea though