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LimpingGhost
United States4 Posts
On November 01 2015 12:46 Skitter wrote: Wait is that actually you?? I've already been burned by a Goat troll... Yeah it is me. It'd be easier if whoever admins this site figured out that I was falsely banned, so that I could just use my real account, but I guess this works. | ||
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
On November 01 2015 12:48 LimpingGhost wrote: Yeah it is me. It'd be easier if whoever admins this site figured out that I was falsely banned, so that I could just use my real account, but I guess this works. Whaddya think about TSM Zion? | ||
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LimpingGhost
United States4 Posts
I don't know. It seems like getting a great roster is a lot of luck with how players interact with eachother as a team. Part of that is what kind of coaching does a team have to help develop the team itself, which is what I am particularly interested in seeing for TSM in this next season. Even the Doublelift move seems questionable, teams in the past have made seemingly hype moves that backfired completely and made them worse than when they had a perceived "weaker" player. Is Doublelift going to demand resources away from Bjergsen and end up hurting his performance? Is CLG's botlane laning strength more to do with Aphro than Double? Or a unique product of them playing together? This stuff is why I hate speculating on how strong or weak rosters will be before actually seeing them play. I have faith in Regi and his ability to consistently keep TSM a top team, so I'm not worried about them at least domestically. I also think CLG is not as fucked as people think they are without Double, especially if they get Turtle and are able to keep Zion and Aphro. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On November 01 2015 12:42 LimpingGhost wrote: I think Turtle is going to either CLG or TiP, and I don't think TSM Adrian is happening, nor TSM Aphromoo. TSM adrian would be the best move for TSM I think. He's good and that frees up an import slot for your jg/top laner, where NA is weakest talentwise On November 01 2015 12:27 bbc23 wrote: Not using the import spot would be a mistake only if you're not getting the few good NA players (not saying I include Zion in that group). In theory the NA players are more worthwhile because every team has to have 3 of them so by taking a couple of those significantly weakens other teams. Edit: Though using the import spots is 100% worth it if you want NA to be as competitive as possible. Agree with everything you say, but doesn't apply re Zion because you could get a way betteri mport top. Also sabotaging other NA teams doesn't really matter if you're TSM and your individual strength (assuming they fill up rest of roster with semicompetent players) and org strength means you'll make it through NA anyway, then it doesn't matter at all in international competition where TSM supposedly (and I believe them) are really focusing their goals. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9192 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On November 01 2015 13:05 LimpingGhost wrote: I don't know. It seems like getting a great roster is a lot of luck with how players interact with eachother as a team. Part of that is what kind of coaching does a team have to help develop the team itself, which is what I am particularly interested in seeing for TSM in this next season. Even the Doublelift move seems questionable, teams in the past have made seemingly hype moves that backfired completely and made them worse than when they had a perceived "weaker" player. Is Doublelift going to demand resources away from Bjergsen and end up hurting his performance? Is CLG's botlane laning strength more to do with Aphro than Double? Or a unique product of them playing together? This stuff is why I hate speculating on how strong or weak rosters will be before actually seeing them play. I have faith in Regi and his ability to consistently keep TSM a top team, so I'm not worried about them at least domestically. I also think CLG is not as fucked as people think they are without Double, especially if they get Turtle and are able to keep Zion and Aphro. I'm not 100% sure about the whole "taking resources away" thing, as we've seen the Korean teams figure out how to make sure that the carries on the team (once the top lane carries started to become a thing) get enough gold to be effective. Usually this means that the top, mid, and ADC get 1 lane's worth of farm, get side camps from jungler (which turns the jungler into little more than a second ward bot) and farm enemy jungle when they push waves in. The theory behind getting two strong players is fine, you just have to make sure that they are playing AS A TEAM and doing what is best FOR THE TEAM. To me, that's always been DL's biggest issue: letting someone else carry a game (if not a whole series). Part of that is attitude, but part of that has to be beaten into his head from the coaching staff, and TSM's coaching and support structure does not instill a bunch of confidence in me. | ||
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bbc23
United States416 Posts
I'm sorry Hotshot but just putting this tweet out is in poor taste. Either do it or don't but don't put that out on social media it looks unprofessional as fuck. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Skitter
United States899 Posts
NA drama >>>All | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On November 01 2015 13:25 krndandaman wrote: Dunno but my guess is DL decided to leave on his own and CLG said that they kicked him so he doesn't get too much backlash? But now he's probably feeling the heat. Just a guess lol Didn't DL say he was kicked in the video? | ||
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LimpingGhost
United States4 Posts
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 01 2015 13:19 bbc23 wrote: https://twitter.com/CLG_HotshotGG/status/660663437760921600 I'm sorry Hotshot but just putting this tweet out is in poor taste. Either do it or don't but don't put that out on social media it looks unprofessional as fuck. hsgg and professional in the same sentence is just l0l | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On November 01 2015 14:13 LimpingGhost wrote: Surely no other roster change during off season can top this, right? idk I mean this is big in the sense that it felt unlikely, but with all the money rumored in NA next season I think the biggest pick up will be an asian. | ||
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lethal111
Canada460 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
It's as if CLG / doublelift consider bombing at worlds a failure instead of the expected outcome. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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