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On November 04 2015 23:24 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:13 Caiada wrote:
Whenever something gets removed, people say, 'no, keep the old one, more options is always better' without realizing that is a load of happy logistical horseshit in 99% of cases. The old elo system is much better than the current system though unless you have ladder anxiety or w/e Also I hope by now you realize what a joke Lyte is. Division borders and 4man premades aren't toxic but sandbox mode and voicechat are. Sounds like a cheap excuse for being lazy. I'm surprised he didn't say a new league client would be toxic. Then again, what other video game company hires a fuckin psychologist. Lyte is probably just a scapegoat in the big picture
If someone has ladder anxiety they need help from a psychologist (or to reach 10 years old) not the current system it is just as bad lol.
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On November 04 2015 23:31 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:24 101toss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:13 Caiada wrote:
Whenever something gets removed, people say, 'no, keep the old one, more options is always better' without realizing that is a load of happy logistical horseshit in 99% of cases. The old elo system is much better than the current system though unless you have ladder anxiety or w/e Also I hope by now you realize what a joke Lyte is. Division borders and 4man premades aren't toxic but sandbox mode and voicechat are. Sounds like a cheap excuse for being lazy. I'm surprised he didn't say a new league client would be toxic. Then again, what other video game company hires a fuckin psychologist. Lyte is probably just a scapegoat in the big picture If someone has ladder anxiety they need help from a psychologist (or to reach 10 years old) not the current system it is just as bad lol.
The new system lets you cheat your way through to gold 1 with promotion helper though, that's sure to fix everything!
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On November 04 2015 23:32 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:31 nafta wrote:On November 04 2015 23:24 101toss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:13 Caiada wrote:
Whenever something gets removed, people say, 'no, keep the old one, more options is always better' without realizing that is a load of happy logistical horseshit in 99% of cases. The old elo system is much better than the current system though unless you have ladder anxiety or w/e Also I hope by now you realize what a joke Lyte is. Division borders and 4man premades aren't toxic but sandbox mode and voicechat are. Sounds like a cheap excuse for being lazy. I'm surprised he didn't say a new league client would be toxic. Then again, what other video game company hires a fuckin psychologist. Lyte is probably just a scapegoat in the big picture If someone has ladder anxiety they need help from a psychologist (or to reach 10 years old) not the current system it is just as bad lol. The new system lets you cheat your way through to gold 1 with promotion helper though, that's sure to fix everything!
It should've been a red flag that they are about to destroy ranked play. I swallowed the gutting of the ELO system, even though it is the best possible system out there and the most precise one. But all right, have divisions for the baddies, and promo games so that they can feel like pros. Whatever. But the demotion immunity and promotion helpers were the first real step towards self-destruction.
Meanwhile Diamond 5 is still a clusterfuck after what, 2 years? Though if the new changes come through, that problem will solve itself, because ranking will have no meaning to begin with.
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I now love this change. The rhetoric is hilarious.
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On November 04 2015 23:31 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:24 101toss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:13 Caiada wrote:
Whenever something gets removed, people say, 'no, keep the old one, more options is always better' without realizing that is a load of happy logistical horseshit in 99% of cases. The old elo system is much better than the current system though unless you have ladder anxiety or w/e Also I hope by now you realize what a joke Lyte is. Division borders and 4man premades aren't toxic but sandbox mode and voicechat are. Sounds like a cheap excuse for being lazy. I'm surprised he didn't say a new league client would be toxic. Then again, what other video game company hires a fuckin psychologist. Lyte is probably just a scapegoat in the big picture If someone has ladder anxiety they need help from a psychologist (or to reach 10 years old) not the current system it is just as bad lol.
What's funny is that riot just addressed "promo anxiety" as a big issue and is adding the new promo change to deal with it and further fuck over ranked accuracy
In 2017 we're all going to start with gold accounts and you won't lose elo on a loss, calling it now
User was warned for this post (Useless sarcastic conjecture)
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On November 04 2015 23:07 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:00 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:53 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:51 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:30 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:16 Caiada wrote:
So go play SC2. LoL's a team game.
I don't even have friends to play with because I'm an anxious misanthrope. And you know what? I don't give a shit about this change. And if the matchmaking works at 99% of people's level, I'm going to give even less of a shit about it.
Quality comment after 5 seasons of solo queue's existence without much complaint towards the basis of the system. Not to mention that the ladder gives you rank for your SOLO performance in this team game. Jesus, we are reaching /r/leagueoflegends level now. You may feel that the system works, but Riot has clearly stated they have data and research that shows the experience could be improved not just for players already playing ranked, but for those who have stayed away because they don't want to/hate playing solo. I'm all for Riot trying to improve LoL, even if they sometimes miss the mark. While there will almost certainly be bumps along the road, I don't think this will be one of those misses. Bottom line is that they are introducing a new feature while completely erasing an old one. They create new fun experiences while shitting on old fun experiences. Just seperate them for God's sake and everyone's happy. Bottom line is they're improving the old feature, and taking measures to address the problems you're complaining about. Riot is trying to preserve your fun experience while enabling new fun for everyone involved. There will probably be a few problems initially, but I think it's an achievable goal. They aren't improving the old feature, they're replacing the old feature with a new feature and you can't just say it's an improvement, especially if you state it like a fact like you just did. You aren't the authority who decides whether something is an improvement or not. Probably for most people under Diamond 4 or so it won't matter, but above that it will significantly affect both the accuracy of the rating system and the queue times.
It's just my emphatically stated opinion. I'd be less matter of fact about it if there was less doom and gloom.
The whole "new feature vs improvement/change" thing is part of what makes most of what's been posted a noisy, empty debate. It's a red herring that honestly has nothing to do with anything except the battle lines people have drawn. What really matters are the concerns people have, Riot's awareness of those concerns, and Riot's ability/plan to address them.
I think it's clear Riot is aware of and will address people's concerns. It seems that you and others either don't think Riot is aware of your concerns, or don't think Riot is capable of addressing them. That's fine, and we can disagree.
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On November 04 2015 23:36 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:07 Fildun wrote:On November 04 2015 23:00 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:53 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:51 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:30 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:16 Caiada wrote:
So go play SC2. LoL's a team game.
I don't even have friends to play with because I'm an anxious misanthrope. And you know what? I don't give a shit about this change. And if the matchmaking works at 99% of people's level, I'm going to give even less of a shit about it.
Quality comment after 5 seasons of solo queue's existence without much complaint towards the basis of the system. Not to mention that the ladder gives you rank for your SOLO performance in this team game. Jesus, we are reaching /r/leagueoflegends level now. You may feel that the system works, but Riot has clearly stated they have data and research that shows the experience could be improved not just for players already playing ranked, but for those who have stayed away because they don't want to/hate playing solo. I'm all for Riot trying to improve LoL, even if they sometimes miss the mark. While there will almost certainly be bumps along the road, I don't think this will be one of those misses. Bottom line is that they are introducing a new feature while completely erasing an old one. They create new fun experiences while shitting on old fun experiences. Just seperate them for God's sake and everyone's happy. Bottom line is they're improving the old feature, and taking measures to address the problems you're complaining about. Riot is trying to preserve your fun experience while enabling new fun for everyone involved. There will probably be a few problems initially, but I think it's an achievable goal. They aren't improving the old feature, they're replacing the old feature with a new feature and you can't just say it's an improvement, especially if you state it like a fact like you just did. You aren't the authority who decides whether something is an improvement or not. Probably for most people under Diamond 4 or so it won't matter, but above that it will significantly affect both the accuracy of the rating system and the queue times. I think it's clear Riot is aware of and will address people's concerns. It seems that you and others either don't think Riot is aware of your concerns, or don't think Riot is capable of addressing them. That's fine, and we can disagree.
So basically we should keep calm and trust Riot, because you assured us that in the end everyone will be happy? Not saying it's not a possibility, but right now, especially after reading Riot "How Do I Still Have This Job" Lyte reply, I wouldn't be so sure.
On November 04 2015 23:36 Caiada wrote:
I now love this change. The rhetoric is hilarious.
You already said you are a lonely anxious misanthrope, so it's not surprising you just find joy in others being mad as it somehow validates you. There's always a crazy one.
User was warned for this post (Flaming)
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On November 04 2015 23:36 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:31 nafta wrote:On November 04 2015 23:24 101toss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:13 Caiada wrote:
Whenever something gets removed, people say, 'no, keep the old one, more options is always better' without realizing that is a load of happy logistical horseshit in 99% of cases. The old elo system is much better than the current system though unless you have ladder anxiety or w/e Also I hope by now you realize what a joke Lyte is. Division borders and 4man premades aren't toxic but sandbox mode and voicechat are. Sounds like a cheap excuse for being lazy. I'm surprised he didn't say a new league client would be toxic. Then again, what other video game company hires a fuckin psychologist. Lyte is probably just a scapegoat in the big picture If someone has ladder anxiety they need help from a psychologist (or to reach 10 years old) not the current system it is just as bad lol. What's funny is that riot just addressed "promo anxiety" as a big issue and is adding the new promo change to deal with it and further fuck over ranked accuracy In 2017 we're all going to start with gold accounts and you won't lose elo on a loss, calling it now
Well soloq is a joke anyway so personally I don't give a shit about that too much. I expect game quality to drop even lower which is my problem with it.
The thing that I wonder is how will this matter for boosters. Cuz now when someone gets an order he might have to wait for others to get too cuz everyone is gonna be premade. Also people are probably just gonna start adding people and then doing the boosting a week later so you can just say "well I made a friend". Obviously this is for the more tryhard people who change ip and shit.
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On November 04 2015 23:36 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:31 nafta wrote:On November 04 2015 23:24 101toss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:13 Caiada wrote:
Whenever something gets removed, people say, 'no, keep the old one, more options is always better' without realizing that is a load of happy logistical horseshit in 99% of cases. The old elo system is much better than the current system though unless you have ladder anxiety or w/e Also I hope by now you realize what a joke Lyte is. Division borders and 4man premades aren't toxic but sandbox mode and voicechat are. Sounds like a cheap excuse for being lazy. I'm surprised he didn't say a new league client would be toxic. Then again, what other video game company hires a fuckin psychologist. Lyte is probably just a scapegoat in the big picture If someone has ladder anxiety they need help from a psychologist (or to reach 10 years old) not the current system it is just as bad lol. What's funny is that riot just addressed "promo anxiety" as a big issue and is adding the new promo change to deal with it and further fuck over ranked accuracy In 2017 we're all going to start with gold accounts and you won't lose elo on a loss, calling it now
We are also going to be assigned to random new friends we can play premade rankeds with, and there will be an option to reverse search for their facebook account, so we can totally hang out irl too. All this time I thought I wanted to play this game, but no guys, I actually just want to play with you!
User was warned for this post (Sarcastic hyperbole, drivel)
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On November 04 2015 23:36 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:07 Fildun wrote:On November 04 2015 23:00 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:53 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:51 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:30 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:16 Caiada wrote:
So go play SC2. LoL's a team game.
I don't even have friends to play with because I'm an anxious misanthrope. And you know what? I don't give a shit about this change. And if the matchmaking works at 99% of people's level, I'm going to give even less of a shit about it.
Quality comment after 5 seasons of solo queue's existence without much complaint towards the basis of the system. Not to mention that the ladder gives you rank for your SOLO performance in this team game. Jesus, we are reaching /r/leagueoflegends level now. You may feel that the system works, but Riot has clearly stated they have data and research that shows the experience could be improved not just for players already playing ranked, but for those who have stayed away because they don't want to/hate playing solo. I'm all for Riot trying to improve LoL, even if they sometimes miss the mark. While there will almost certainly be bumps along the road, I don't think this will be one of those misses. Bottom line is that they are introducing a new feature while completely erasing an old one. They create new fun experiences while shitting on old fun experiences. Just seperate them for God's sake and everyone's happy. Bottom line is they're improving the old feature, and taking measures to address the problems you're complaining about. Riot is trying to preserve your fun experience while enabling new fun for everyone involved. There will probably be a few problems initially, but I think it's an achievable goal. They aren't improving the old feature, they're replacing the old feature with a new feature and you can't just say it's an improvement, especially if you state it like a fact like you just did. You aren't the authority who decides whether something is an improvement or not. Probably for most people under Diamond 4 or so it won't matter, but above that it will significantly affect both the accuracy of the rating system and the queue times. It's just my emphatically stated opinion. I'd be less matter of fact about it if there was less doom and gloom. The whole "new feature vs improvement/change" thing is part of what makes most of what's been posted a noisy, empty debate. It's a red herring that honestly has nothing to do with anything except the battle lines people have drawn. What really matters are the concerns people have, Riot's awareness of those concerns, and Riot's ability/plan to address them. I think it's clear Riot is aware of and will address people's concerns. It seems that you and others either don't think Riot is aware of your concerns, or don't think Riot is capable of addressing them. That's fine, and we can disagree.
The way I see it they haven't said or done anything to preserve the integrity of the ranking system when this change goes through. This either means they either 1) didn't think about it, 2) don't care about it or 3) can't fix it.
These options all don't seem very good to me.
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On November 04 2015 23:41 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:36 101toss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:31 nafta wrote:On November 04 2015 23:24 101toss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:13 Caiada wrote:
Whenever something gets removed, people say, 'no, keep the old one, more options is always better' without realizing that is a load of happy logistical horseshit in 99% of cases. The old elo system is much better than the current system though unless you have ladder anxiety or w/e Also I hope by now you realize what a joke Lyte is. Division borders and 4man premades aren't toxic but sandbox mode and voicechat are. Sounds like a cheap excuse for being lazy. I'm surprised he didn't say a new league client would be toxic. Then again, what other video game company hires a fuckin psychologist. Lyte is probably just a scapegoat in the big picture If someone has ladder anxiety they need help from a psychologist (or to reach 10 years old) not the current system it is just as bad lol. What's funny is that riot just addressed "promo anxiety" as a big issue and is adding the new promo change to deal with it and further fuck over ranked accuracy In 2017 we're all going to start with gold accounts and you won't lose elo on a loss, calling it now Well soloq is a joke anyway so personally I don't give a shit about that too much. I expect game quality to drop even lower which is my problem with it. The thing that I wonder is how will this matter for boosters. Cuz now when someone gets an order he might have to wait for others to get too cuz everyone is gonna be premade. Also people are probably just gonna start adding people and then doing the boosting a week later so you can just say "well I made a friend". Obviously this is for the more tryhard people who change ip and shit.
It should be a lot more efficient for boosting if you work on an organized website and queue up with a bunch of other boosters. At lower elo's where the demand is high it shouldn't be too hard to coordinate that, but demand tapers off over diamond so it'll be harder to get premade boosting done at that level. More reason to hate diamond 5 players.
This also allows for "legal" boosting, where you have 4 smurfs carry 1 bad player and to my knowledge, the bad player shouldn't be banned, so there might be new demand from players who were previously afraid of getting banned from "illegal" boosting. I know several people who had no issue duoing with me on my smurf, but didn't want me to play on their account because they might get banned and lose all their skins. Of course, this boosting would probably be done not on smurfs but other accounts to be boosted, but you get the idea.
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This thread needs some mods in it, for serious.
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On November 04 2015 23:39 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:36 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:07 Fildun wrote:On November 04 2015 23:00 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:53 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:51 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:30 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:16 Caiada wrote:
So go play SC2. LoL's a team game.
I don't even have friends to play with because I'm an anxious misanthrope. And you know what? I don't give a shit about this change. And if the matchmaking works at 99% of people's level, I'm going to give even less of a shit about it.
Quality comment after 5 seasons of solo queue's existence without much complaint towards the basis of the system. Not to mention that the ladder gives you rank for your SOLO performance in this team game. Jesus, we are reaching /r/leagueoflegends level now. You may feel that the system works, but Riot has clearly stated they have data and research that shows the experience could be improved not just for players already playing ranked, but for those who have stayed away because they don't want to/hate playing solo. I'm all for Riot trying to improve LoL, even if they sometimes miss the mark. While there will almost certainly be bumps along the road, I don't think this will be one of those misses. Bottom line is that they are introducing a new feature while completely erasing an old one. They create new fun experiences while shitting on old fun experiences. Just seperate them for God's sake and everyone's happy. Bottom line is they're improving the old feature, and taking measures to address the problems you're complaining about. Riot is trying to preserve your fun experience while enabling new fun for everyone involved. There will probably be a few problems initially, but I think it's an achievable goal. They aren't improving the old feature, they're replacing the old feature with a new feature and you can't just say it's an improvement, especially if you state it like a fact like you just did. You aren't the authority who decides whether something is an improvement or not. Probably for most people under Diamond 4 or so it won't matter, but above that it will significantly affect both the accuracy of the rating system and the queue times. I think it's clear Riot is aware of and will address people's concerns. It seems that you and others either don't think Riot is aware of your concerns, or don't think Riot is capable of addressing them. That's fine, and we can disagree. So basically we should keep calm and trust Riot, because you assured us that in the end everyone will be happy? Not saying it's not a possibility, but right now, especially after reading Riot "How Do I Still Have This Job" Lyte reply, I wouldn't be so sure.
So we disagree.
+ Show Spoiler [unimportant] +The question you need to ask yourself is what you're trying to accomplish by continuing to argue, particularly in such an aggressive/hyperbolic fashion, beyond the point where it's clear that we have differing opinions that are likely immutable. Are you: - Attempting to convince me I'm wrong?
- Seeking to reach some form of mutual understanding?
- Arguing for posterity?
- Venting?
- Killing time?
- Trolling?
If it's option #1, then simply stating you disagree while making allusions to those things we see differently isn't likely to effect a change of opinion. You should talk instead about why those concerns of yours which Lyte mentioned are still concerns, bring up whichever concerns Lyte and/or Riot haven't mentioned, and perhaps add in what makes you believe Riot shouldn't be trusted to execute their plan/feature properly. If it's option #2 you should identify whatever it is you think I don't understand and then proceed using a process much like that from option #1. If it's option #3 then the hyperbole/doom and gloom is detrimental in the long run, though it's surely gratifying at the moment (i.e. option #4). If it's option #5 then we're birds of a feather, though I'm probably going to execute the conversation shortly since I have work to do. If it's option #6 you probably shouldn't admit to it because that will spoil everything.
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On November 04 2015 23:57 Ketara wrote:
This thread needs some mods in it, for serious.
Agree. It's bad enough that - seemingly - more people oppose the changes than agree with it, but the fact that they even voice it is just one step too much. With a few warnings, everyone should be convinced that season 6 ranked will be the best ranked experience out of any game throughout the history of gaming.
Imagine how this thread would look like if Lyte moderated it, haha.
- Looking good!
- Can't wait!
- Any1 looking for groups? We are a group of 3, welcoming anyone!
- SWEET!!!
- Riot outdid themselves, for real.
- I dunno guys... [Warned]
- Just what I wanted!
(+ a million [---NUKED---] of course)
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On November 04 2015 23:59 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:39 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 23:36 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 23:07 Fildun wrote:On November 04 2015 23:00 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:53 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:51 Seuss wrote:On November 04 2015 22:30 Volband wrote:On November 04 2015 22:16 Caiada wrote:
So go play SC2. LoL's a team game.
I don't even have friends to play with because I'm an anxious misanthrope. And you know what? I don't give a shit about this change. And if the matchmaking works at 99% of people's level, I'm going to give even less of a shit about it.
Quality comment after 5 seasons of solo queue's existence without much complaint towards the basis of the system. Not to mention that the ladder gives you rank for your SOLO performance in this team game. Jesus, we are reaching /r/leagueoflegends level now. You may feel that the system works, but Riot has clearly stated they have data and research that shows the experience could be improved not just for players already playing ranked, but for those who have stayed away because they don't want to/hate playing solo. I'm all for Riot trying to improve LoL, even if they sometimes miss the mark. While there will almost certainly be bumps along the road, I don't think this will be one of those misses. Bottom line is that they are introducing a new feature while completely erasing an old one. They create new fun experiences while shitting on old fun experiences. Just seperate them for God's sake and everyone's happy. Bottom line is they're improving the old feature, and taking measures to address the problems you're complaining about. Riot is trying to preserve your fun experience while enabling new fun for everyone involved. There will probably be a few problems initially, but I think it's an achievable goal. They aren't improving the old feature, they're replacing the old feature with a new feature and you can't just say it's an improvement, especially if you state it like a fact like you just did. You aren't the authority who decides whether something is an improvement or not. Probably for most people under Diamond 4 or so it won't matter, but above that it will significantly affect both the accuracy of the rating system and the queue times. I think it's clear Riot is aware of and will address people's concerns. It seems that you and others either don't think Riot is aware of your concerns, or don't think Riot is capable of addressing them. That's fine, and we can disagree. So basically we should keep calm and trust Riot, because you assured us that in the end everyone will be happy? Not saying it's not a possibility, but right now, especially after reading Riot "How Do I Still Have This Job" Lyte reply, I wouldn't be so sure. So we disagree. + Show Spoiler [unimportant] +The question you need to ask yourself is what you're trying to accomplish by continuing to argue, particularly in such an aggressive/hyperbolic fashion, beyond the point where it's clear that we have differing opinions that are likely immutable. Are you: - Attempting to convince me I'm wrong?
- Seeking to reach some form of mutual understanding?
- Arguing for posterity?
- Venting?
- Killing time?
- Trolling?
If it's option #1, then simply stating you disagree while making allusions to those things we see differently isn't likely to effect a change of opinion. You should talk instead about why those concerns of yours which Lyte mentioned are still concerns, bring up whichever concerns Lyte and/or Riot haven't mentioned, and perhaps add in what makes you believe Riot shouldn't be trusted to execute their plan/feature properly. If it's option #2 you should identify whatever it is you think I don't understand and then proceed using a process much like that from option #1. If it's option #3 then the hyperbole/doom and gloom is detrimental in the long run, though it's surely gratifying at the moment (i.e. option #4). If it's option #5 then we're birds of a feather, though I'm probably going to execute the conversation shortly since I have work to do. If it's option #6 you probably shouldn't admit to it because that will spoil everything.
It shouldn't be hard for you to see how you have the same empty backup as I do in this question [will Riot make it good eventually?], but you act like it should be obvious you are right, so why not ask yourself if you are trolling. I am stating that the current changes will ruin ranked play as we know it. While it is an assumption, I can point fingers to change X and Y and say these will doom it. You, on the other hand, tell me/us to calm down, because Riot will fix it for sure. Because, you just know it. Not too deep now, is it?
The rest, is just coating, coloring (so at least there's some fun in these sad days to come). I don't try to oppress valid arguments, but don't expect me to give 100% serious replies to such fairy tales as "Riot will solve everything!". First, show me a Riot response which gives us hope to think that, then we can talk. Right now, all we have is Lyte saying he knew people like will be upset. I would not call that promising.
Edit: Though killing time is definitely a factor, because out of everyone who disagreed with me, Numy was the only one who brought up arguments worthwhile to respond to.
Edit2: all you are saying basically is "shhhhh guys, everything will fix itself!" [sorry for the many edits, I'm just too tired]
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On November 05 2015 00:08 Volband wrote:
Edit2: all you are saying basically is "shhhhh guys, everything will fix itself!" [sorry for the many edits, I'm just too tired]
I mean what that comes down to is faith in Riot based on past track record. Some people like the direction Riot has taken the game (I know Ketara and Seuss are both of the opinion that for the most part, systemic changes Riot has made to the game have always made the game better). Which is a perfectly reasonable opinion.
It's equally reasonable to have no faith in Riot because their vision for the game does not align with yours. But perhaps that means it's time to quit?
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Why are you talking about this like it was a presidential election pertaining to the fate of the world or something? Calm down, it's just the matchmaking system of an online videogame.
Personally I always soloq, never duo. And I have no problems with any of this. I have no idea what you're even upset about. They're gonna weigh your report heavier if you're a solo among premades. They're gonna match teams of similar setups with each other. If you wanted to chat people up and be social then why are you even soloqing? In short, the hell are you mad about anyway?
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On November 05 2015 00:17 Osmoses wrote:
Why are you talking about this like it was a presidential election pertaining to the fate of the world or something? Calm down, it's just the matchmaking system of an online videogame.
Personally I always soloq, never duo. And I have no problems with any of this. I have no idea what you're even upset about. They're gonna weigh your report heavier if you're a solo among premades. They're gonna match teams of similar setups with each other. If you wanted to chat people up and be social then why are you even soloqing? In short, the hell are you mad about anyway?
Personally I'm not satisfied because these changes will make it so that your MMR will be even less an indication of your skill than before.
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Riot should just go back to the elo system
Also can we just queue ranked by position? Pls
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Since the beginning of duoq they've weighed duoers mmr together so that they're matched slightly higher. Premade or solo they should still be roughly in the right spot.
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