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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 17 2015 08:42 GMT
#441
Mmm I don't think you need more than like a 0.5 second slow to land an important combo so that argument is out. In my opinion the real strength of it is the scouting potential, "where is the jungler" free card, all on a 50 sec cd.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 09:07:11
December 17 2015 09:05 GMT
#442
I think the 50% regen nerf is kind of a big deal.

Look at it vs. Morellos

Is the active worth 10% CDR and 30 AP?

I'm sure it is some of the time. But certainly not all of the time.

It's certainly a bigger nerf than hitting the gold gen.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 17 2015 09:09 GMT
#443
While it is a nerf don't think it matters too much. The ghosts are still broken and make up for the less stats. Morello also costs more while this is cheaper AND gives you more gold.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 09:17:57
December 17 2015 09:16 GMT
#444
30 AP and 10% CDR is a Fiendish Codex, though.

They're not 800g cheaper.

I think the active is really good, even on Twin Shadows it was really good it's just Twin Shadows was hard to fit into builds, FQC can be fit in because it's your mana regen item.

I'm pretty sure that there are matchups where a nerfed active won't be so amazing. I'm not saying it won't be strong, but I am saying that I think it's a noticeable nerf.

They said they don't mind FQC on mids as long as it's not the ONLY option and I think this goes a way towards getting it there.

I think it is possible it might need another small nerf though. They're probably being conservative because they don't want to kill the AP supports that are just now popular after oh so long of being joke picks.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 09:29:14
December 17 2015 09:23 GMT
#445
Well morello costs 350 more and it isn't exactly hard to go >1k gold gained in a game on fqc. So it definitely makes up the cost over 7/8 minutes at most.

Even on janna I get 1.5k or more gold per game with it.

It definitely will be weaker there is no argument there but it still is too strong.

Gotta admit until I actually saw people using it wasn't too sold on it but it honestly feels broken after playing with it in games. It honestly becomes so fucking hard to play immobile mages.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 17 2015 15:59 GMT
#446
FQC is fine, you could live off it as your only source of mana regen pretty reliably if you didn't spam, now you just need blue or run some mana regen runes maybe.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-16 14:08:05
January 16 2016 14:06 GMT
#447
Been playing around with the crafting system on the PBE. Desperately needs a quantity option or bigger bundles for Hextech Chests/Keys, and a slightly tweaked UX for opening multiple chests in a row.

Opening a chest should automatically pull up another chest if you have another chest and key.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
January 21 2016 02:06 GMT
#448
Apparently the Champion Mastery thing is going to work with crafting, which seems a bit odd.

http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/XT7eu7jz-champion-mastery-level-6-7

Also latest PBE: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/01/120-pbe-update.html
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 09:52:10
January 21 2016 09:51 GMT
#449
Okay, fist time I've looked at the tooltip for Jihn's passive... what the fuck is this shit.

Death In 4 Acts: Jhin's basic attacks utilize ammunition and his attack speed cannot be improved except through growth. Jhin can attack 4 times before having to reload for 2.5 seconds, and the final shot is a guaranteed critical strike that also deals 15 / 20 / 25% of target's missing health bonus physical damage.

Every Moment Matters: Jhin's critical strikes deal 25% reduced damage, but grant 10% (+ 4% per 10% bonus attack speed) movement speed for 2 seconds.

Additionally, his attack damage is increased by 2% - 40% (based on level) (+ 4% per 10% critical strike chance) (+ 2.5% per 10% bonus attack speed).


Keep it simple, stupid.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 27 2016 18:11 GMT
#450
It seems that Riot is moving to stop trolling/bad behavior on the PBE by linking PBE accounts to live accounts. I got an email about it just now and it heavily implies that users who don't, while still being able to keep and use their PBE accounts, won't have immediate access to some patches.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 27 2016 20:36 GMT
#451
Poppy nerfs on pbe.

I def think Poppy is OP, but I don't think nerfing Poppy without nerfing Fiora is ok.
Carrilord has arrived.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 22:31:51
January 27 2016 21:02 GMT
#452
[image loading]

Well, ok then.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
January 27 2016 21:12 GMT
#453
On January 28 2016 06:02 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
[NEW ITEM] Duskblade of Draktharr

! ( ! ) !


+75 Attack Damage
+5% Movement Speed
UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration
UNIQUE Passive: Basic Attacks on an enemy champion apply Nightfall (120 second cooldown).

Nightfall: After 2 seconds, deal physical damage equal to 90 plus 25% of the target's missing health. If you get a kill or assist on the target before Nightfall ends, the cooldown is refunded."


Well, ok then.


"Brutalizer was such a toxic item, it was bad for the ecosystem of the game, we will avoid having items like these in the future" (Paraphrasing).
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 27 2016 21:14 GMT
#454
On January 28 2016 06:02 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
[NEW ITEM] Duskblade of Draktharr

! ( ! ) !


+75 Attack Damage
+5% Movement Speed
UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration
UNIQUE Passive: Basic Attacks on an enemy champion apply Nightfall (120 second cooldown).

Nightfall: After 2 seconds, deal physical damage equal to 90 plus 25% of the target's missing health. If you get a kill or assist on the target before Nightfall ends, the cooldown is refunded."


Well, ok then.


All champions are now Zed/Garen. And Zed is now Zed squared.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 27 2016 21:58 GMT
#455
On January 28 2016 06:12 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 06:02 Ansibled wrote:
[NEW ITEM] Duskblade of Draktharr

! ( ! ) !


+75 Attack Damage
+5% Movement Speed
UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration
UNIQUE Passive: Basic Attacks on an enemy champion apply Nightfall (120 second cooldown).

Nightfall: After 2 seconds, deal physical damage equal to 90 plus 25% of the target's missing health. If you get a kill or assist on the target before Nightfall ends, the cooldown is refunded."


Well, ok then.


"Brutalizer was such a toxic item, it was bad for the ecosystem of the game, we will avoid having items like these in the future" (Paraphrasing).

You realise they were talking about the mix of stats and their cost-effectiveness, all at an early price point, right?
Just looking at the AD should tell you that item would cost 2.5k+ gold (on the boards they mention 3k+), so your paraphrasing doesn't apply to it at all.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 22:04:24
January 27 2016 22:04 GMT
#456
Here's the link to the current PBE everyone is referring to:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/01/127-pbe-update.html#more

The E "buff" is marginal but that W passive for Xin Zhao is pretty bonkers
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 27 2016 22:06 GMT
#457
I feel like Xin E is a nerf
Carrilord has arrived.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
January 28 2016 01:02 GMT
#458
That item is nothing like brutalizer, lol.

My worry for that item is that's kind of an inelegant solution to the assassin problem. Everybody's now Zed! We loved Zed so much, we gave a mini version of his ult to everybody because we couldn't think of any other way to add counterplay! I mean it works, but it's stupid as hell.
XDG Mata
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 28 2016 06:15 GMT
#459
On January 28 2016 07:04 Zess wrote:
Here's the link to the current PBE everyone is referring to:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/01/127-pbe-update.html#more

The E "buff" is marginal but that W passive for Xin Zhao is pretty bonkers


Note that it's not 60-100% more than a normal crit, but in the place of what a crit would normally do. So rank 5 basically makes it a normal crit.

IE and Crit Damage runes stack additively with it (e.g. IE + Rank 1 = 210% damage on crit), and it triggers Warlord's Bloodlust.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
January 28 2016 08:13 GMT
#460
The fact that you now get a crit everything other hit without having to buy any crit items is bonkers. That is in addition to the Devourer and Rageblade procs.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
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