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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 28 2016 13:48 GMT
#461
Every third hit, but yeah it's kind of bonkers.

Basically you can queue up the crit before a trade, then EW->Auto->Q Reset->Auto->Auto and you've already crit twice and healed twice.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
January 28 2016 16:01 GMT
#462
Dose it have decaying stacks? I mean, it could work like Diana's passive where you can't just set it up and then head out for a gank unless you're really close by like on a Scuttle.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 28 2016 16:16 GMT
#463
Even then, if you decide to lane Xin it's Jax's harass pattern available at level 3. The dash's on a longer cooldown (I also tend to max Q first in match-ups where I won't stick too much or are ranged and I want the low cd) and the cc isn't immediate (although E slows) and you die more easily if baited into a gank, but that's lane dominance right there.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 16:49:09
January 28 2016 16:48 GMT
#464
On January 29 2016 01:01 Gahlo wrote:
Dose it have decaying stacks? I mean, it could work like Diana's passive where you can't just set it up and then head out for a gank unless you're really close by like on a Scuttle.


They probably should have implemented it that way, but instead it piggy backs on W's heal proc. So it's every third strike, period.

It's important to note that it is only +60% damage at rank 1, so even if you do queue it you're essentially getting four auto-attacks for the price of three (unless you run Crit Damage runes, but that's probably less efficient than penetration or even AD).

+ Show Spoiler [Math] +

Looking purely at Marks, you can get 20% Crit Damage versus 8.55 AD versus 11.52 APen. Assuming you're smacking around another Xin Zhao with Armor Seals and that you're sporting a Doran's Blade the auto-attack damage over a level 3 EW->Qx3 combo looks like this:

Equation: (AD * # of Autos + AD * Crit Damage % * # of Crits + Q Damage) / (1 + Armor / 100) = Damage

  • Crit Damage: (70 * 4 + 70 * 0.8 * 2 + 45) / 1.34 = 326.1
  • AD: (78.55 * 4 + 78.55 * 0.6 * 2 + 45) / 1.34 = 338.4
  • APen: (70 * 4 + 70 * 0.6 * 2 + 45) / 1.2248 = 333.93


So it's close, but at least early on you're better off with AD.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 19:56:14
January 29 2016 19:53 GMT
#465
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/01/129-pbe-update.html

Dragon's Might (2 stacks) changed to "Grants your attacks on turrets an additional firey burn over 2 seconds." from "+15% damage to towers and buildings."

Dragon's Dominance (4 stacks) changed to "You take 30% less damage from turrets" from "+15% damage to Minions and Monsters"
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 00:44:41
February 09 2016 22:56 GMT
#466
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/02/29-pbe-update.html
my god those are olaf tier gp nerfs
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
February 10 2016 00:37 GMT
#467
And Katarina buffs.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 10 2016 00:45 GMT
#468
Finally. The champ has been broken for so fucking long.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
February 10 2016 02:15 GMT
#469
The Blood Moon series never disappoints me. I am loving those skins.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
February 10 2016 17:31 GMT
#470
On February 10 2016 07:56 kongoline wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/02/29-pbe-update.html
my god those are olaf tier gp nerfs


literally rest in piss if these go through

but i don't play gp so i dunno

think 4 would be the magic number in terms of max barrels if they change the cooldowns, most gangplanks go through 3 in 1 fight
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 12 2016 08:34 GMT
#471
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/02/211-pbe-update.html

Insane rumble buffs
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
February 12 2016 08:46 GMT
#472
How is that an insane Rumble buff?
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 12 2016 08:58 GMT
#473
Uh... what's prompting all these Urgot nerfs? The passive's one is really big, the shield duration too.
Sterak's combine cost feels really steep if they do it this way.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
February 12 2016 12:01 GMT
#474
On February 12 2016 17:58 Alaric wrote:
Uh... what's prompting all these Urgot nerfs? The passive's one is really big, the shield duration too.
Sterak's combine cost feels really steep if they do it this way.

They made it so that he can W while channeling R and R terrifies nontarget enemies.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 12 2016 14:17 GMT
#475
adc abuse steraks better nerf it to shit so every bruiser/melee who uses it gets fucked in the process ....
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 12 2016 15:17 GMT
#476
They are speaking pretty loudly with their patches recently, they LIKE everyone being a huge damage dealer. The constant gutting of tanks and tank items is so ZZz.
I come in for the scraps
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 12 2016 16:52 GMT
#477
On February 13 2016 00:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
They are speaking pretty loudly with their patches recently, they LIKE everyone being a huge damage dealer. The constant gutting of tanks and tank items is so ZZz.


Used to be only Leblanc could blow up a 4 item Mundo. So they nerfed Leblanc, retooled the game and now EVERYONE can do it!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 16 2016 19:38 GMT
#478
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/02/216-pbe-update.html

I understand you don't like it, but those are in fact the exact goals here.

The average League of Legends player is bad at using active items. Yes, you can outplay other players by simply being better at using active items than them. However I'm of the opinion that managing a toggle it not a particularly sexy or interesting expression of skill. You can compare it to something like Zhonya's or Banner of Command and everyone can see, "Yeah, that active item usage was really important in that game." You don't get that out of Muramana, so honestly, I'm not sure it needs to require mind-share.
Glorious SEA doto
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 19:52:21
February 16 2016 19:50 GMT
#479
looks like back to merc treads every game for top lane if those changes go through, ill have to re-adjust my masteries to stop taking the 15%. Everything else is pretty boring/bad.

Toggling too hard, lets make this essence reaver version 2 except it sucks EX DEE xDDDdDD

edit - wait a second are they on crack with expose weakness? That's way too strong. It needs to be deep in the tree if its gonna do that. Why would you ever take something else...
I come in for the scraps
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 19:54:30
February 16 2016 19:54 GMT
#480
Comments like that are why I recommend to people who enjoy the competetive side of league to no read any comments about the game made by riot employees. Because if you do you will question why are you even playing this.
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