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WolfFerrell
Profile Joined April 2025
1 Post
April 16 2025 22:45 GMT
#1
As many of you know, Warcraft 2 has recently been remastered. Unfortunately it hasn't received the love that starcraft received.

Currently the playerbase is split between remastered (newer players) and war2combat (old school players)

I began playing Warcraft 2 online competitive multiplayer in 1996. Since then I've been a C level iccup bw player and a 9 time master league SC2 player. But my passion has always been with this game.

I recently built a youtube channel for commentary for high level warcraft 2 games. I've spent the last 6 weeks of my life working on this and building a community website that I plan on launching in the next month.

Here's the deal - right now blizzard has left this game completely broken with no multiplayer features. The one that really irks me is that they've removed 'random location' for player position as they have sabotaged the game completely.

I made this video addressing the issue (skip to the end - see time stamps)

I'm just trying to save a game that I have loved for 30 years. Our community is small and we're being abused and destroyed by the creators of the game.

Please help

Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33502 Posts
April 17 2025 22:03 GMT
#2
Damn, a WarCraft remaster unintentionally messing up multiplayer? If I had a dime for every time this happened... ...well you guys know the joke.

Hopefully the War2 scene can create enough PR/awareness that it gets addressed.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
April 18 2025 04:44 GMT
#3
Oh wow, welcome to TL! I've seen War2Combat posting here about the competitive War2 scene, but they haven't been around in forever, so I'm glad I now know of you and War2 is still kicking !

I feel a more concise video would help your cause get attention on social media. Like, a talking head video would be adequate or even better, an edited video where you show people visually what the problem is. This is unfortunately not an uncommon problem with Blizzard RTSes, unfortunately. I know for a while for Remastered there was a schism with Shieldbattery/ICCUP and other versions of Starcraft.

I know you need the game to function but the new blood is the new shiny version that is far more accessible.

"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-19 12:06:40
April 19 2025 12:06 GMT
#4
Hey! I’ve been following u8’s stream to chill for years now and I appreciate you putting in the effort to cast games / bring attention to this game (which really holds up super well IMO). I followed/subscribed. One thing though, when meaningful things happen in the games you cast, pleeeease don’t do the screen shake. It’s so jarring and uncomfortable to watch. I’d much prefer just a zoom in and zoom back out; accomplishes the same thing of orienting the viewers focus without being so…jarring.

Best of luck!
Hakuna Matata B*tches
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
April 20 2025 20:23 GMT
#5
Really glad seeing this old legend of a game still alive and kicking.

Keep up the good work.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
April 21 2025 17:19 GMT
#6
Did the new patch for human actually make a difference? Is the balance better now or still orc bloodlust only?
Total Annihilation Zero
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4373 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-22 09:41:05
April 22 2025 09:40 GMT
#7
On April 22 2025 02:19 TaShadan wrote:
Did the new patch for human actually make a difference? Is the balance better now or still orc bloodlust only?

Mostly good changes but they needed to go even further with bloodlust nerf, wouldn't change orc dominance.Plus they reduced range of blizzard so a human nerf there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1444 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-24 16:54:48
April 24 2025 07:36 GMT
#8
On April 18 2025 13:44 lestye wrote:
I feel a more concise video would help your cause get attention on social media. Like, a talking head video would be adequate or even better, an edited video where you show people visually what the problem is.

This was also my first thought.
1) Make a short, to-the-point video that makes the cause sufficiently clear to anyone with a basic interest in fixing a beloved albeit old and under-the-radar game. It should stress more the frustration and urgency rather than the rage. ("Blizzard's remaster broke WC2 multiplayer and here's why and how to fix it")

My second thought was:
2) Try to somehow get Grubby's attention for it at some point, as WC2 is an old love of his, and hope for a) him making a reaction-video about it or directly adressing the issue to Blizzard at some appropriate opportunity or, if he's not up for that, at least b) your issue getting some traction in his and the wider WC3-community. There should already be some personal overlap between those who play WC2 and watch his stream and sympathy vice versa.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
April 24 2025 16:37 GMT
#9
Grubby's next invitational should be war2
don't wall off against random
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1444 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-24 16:54:08
April 24 2025 16:53 GMT
#10
Or maybe just one game for fun or one series with two players who are interested. Then he could drop a comment about the MP situation. Something like that. Would bring more attention than anything I could imagine.
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