On November 23 2014 11:07 wei2coolman wrote:
The AoE one is probably the best in most circumstances.
The AoE one is probably the best in most circumstances.
u w0t m8?
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 23 2014 11:07 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2014 11:04 MooMooMugi wrote: What is the general consensus on the best jungle item to build or does it depend on what champion you play? I just tried Skirmishers and i like the mini exhaust embedded in the item as well as the target sight, but the marginal true damage not so much. The AoE one is probably the best in most circumstances. u w0t m8? | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2014 11:54 Velocirapture wrote: I am gonna post my stupid theory-crafting here just because. Has anybody here tried going smite in mid? If you go mage trailblazer its 2250 for 80AP and 20% cdr. Add onto this that you can smite over the wall for 15% hp and mana plus a buff, or just use it to clear waves since it is 45 sec CD. Hell you could even use the razorbeak buff to clear wards if i am reading the wiki right. I wouldnt use this on a champ that uses ignite in lane, but I might be willing to part with heal given the sustain boost it gives. I could see it being used on someone who's just looking to farm up all day, especially since you can get the smite modifier that makes them deal less damage as a makeshift exhaust. On November 23 2014 11:57 Scip wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2014 11:07 wei2coolman wrote: On November 23 2014 11:04 MooMooMugi wrote: What is the general consensus on the best jungle item to build or does it depend on what champion you play? I just tried Skirmishers and i like the mini exhaust embedded in the item as well as the target sight, but the marginal true damage not so much. The AoE one is probably the best in most circumstances. u w0t m8? ranger's or w.e, i don't have the names memorized for the different smites yet. | ||
Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2014 12:01 Scip wrote: dude, did you even read description of the true dmg on autoattack after smite one? yeah? probably the best one in most circumstances it's pretty good, but the cd on smite is soooo long tho. | ||
Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
it's manageable it's not like smiting jungle creeps is really all that awesome hurr I got a ward on my own wolves hurr I got a sweeper active for a bit wow I stun creeps now, much use admittedly the frog one is alright, but not as alright is 40+ true dmg on hit is | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2014 12:04 Scip wrote: 60 seconds to be exact it's manageable that's 2 minutes between camps if you use it right off CD to gank between camps. that's pretty huge considering how tough the camps are. | ||
Scip
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Edit: still going Rangers though. Someone tell me otherwise, zz. Edit2: reading comprehension says Scip telling us to go Skirmishers. Going to try Skirm/War Panth atm. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2014 12:17 NeoIllusions wrote: Been pretty happy with Vi and Pantheon so far, going Warrior on both. Nice to have Bruta build into the jungle item now. idk if solo q or just bad but I have more success with them than going support/tanky Nunu. Prob just bad. Edit: still going Rangers though. Someone tell me otherwise, zz. scip is telling u otherwise. | ||
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wei2coolman
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On November 23 2014 11:58 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2014 11:54 Velocirapture wrote: I am gonna post my stupid theory-crafting here just because. Has anybody here tried going smite in mid? If you go mage trailblazer its 2250 for 80AP and 20% cdr. Add onto this that you can smite over the wall for 15% hp and mana plus a buff, or just use it to clear waves since it is 45 sec CD. Hell you could even use the razorbeak buff to clear wards if i am reading the wiki right. I wouldnt use this on a champ that uses ignite in lane, but I might be willing to part with heal given the sustain boost it gives. I could see it being used on someone who's just looking to farm up all day, especially since you can get the smite modifier that makes them deal less damage as a makeshift exhaust. Show nested quote + On November 23 2014 11:57 Scip wrote: On November 23 2014 11:07 wei2coolman wrote: On November 23 2014 11:04 MooMooMugi wrote: What is the general consensus on the best jungle item to build or does it depend on what champion you play? I just tried Skirmishers and i like the mini exhaust embedded in the item as well as the target sight, but the marginal true damage not so much. The AoE one is probably the best in most circumstances. u w0t m8? ranger's or w.e, i don't have the names memorized for the different smites yet. Thats the thing, if it is only good for hard pushing I will be less enthusiastic. The jungle items are fairly efficient on their own and so the real question to me is if the sustain you get from 15% missing mana every 45 seconds is as good as morellonomicon 100% base regen. If it is then I love the idea of improved farming/objective control and sweeper buffs as bonus utility. Even if you are using it to wave clear it saves you mana on ability use, I don't know. | ||
Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
On November 23 2014 13:17 NeoIllusions wrote: Skirm/War Panth, not bad. You melt carries to begin with if you jump behind them. But even dueling a Rammus felt rather easy. Would prob help more if I remember to activate Smite as soon as the duel starts, not 2-3 seconds in. Surprisingly, I don't have this problem (remembering to use Smite on enemy champ) with Devourer Shyvana. That's probably because with Shyvana it falls under the "Do I need this?" test. You don't need any of the blades for pantheon to be a decent jungler, he was already. With Shyvana you do because you need some kind of CC(assuming you were talking about Stalk/Devour.) | ||
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Has been added back to the game! It now builds out of Null Magic + 350g and ONLY builds into Guardian Angel. + Sejuani buffs | ||
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