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On June 30 2014 02:00 Slayer91 wrote:
i just got a warning because princexizor most likely reported me LOL
i guess its fair though because i got obesechicken warned for diagnosing my salinity
Someone read that entire fucking exchange and thought that that was the post that crossed the line? HAHAHAHA
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nobody reads the entire exchange
they just respond to reports
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if mods actually read this thread we would all be banned
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On June 30 2014 02:04 Alaric wrote:Dunkmaster inc.Too bad it's a legendary, means we prob won't have others later. 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO my wallet I don't even own darius or know how to play him, 1st ever instabuy when released for me in this game...
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On June 30 2014 02:16 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 02:00 Slayer91 wrote:
i just got a warning because princexizor most likely reported me LOL
i guess its fair though because i got obesechicken warned for diagnosing my salinity Someone read that entire fucking exchange and thought that that was the post that crossed the line? HAHAHAHA
That was totally worth it.
I wanted to report you for being a shit poster but didn't see the option other than low quality post history so refrained. At least I think I did.
On June 29 2014 22:23 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:25 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:21 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:15 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk about post nerfs but twitch makes you hate your life as a tank Nah, that was the same sentiment in the entire history of LoL. Twitch is just a tank buster. On June 28 2014 09:20 canikizu wrote:
So the new topic is which 7800g adc can 1v1 against 4600g Garen? this sounds like the Rengar complaint. Where's the TL outcry that Garen is stupidly op'd and wants Riot to nerf the living shit out of him? he's one of the few champions with a fair established and unique power curve, hard to be mad at him for being good at his speciality and little else. when rengar insta kills someone they typically continue to do so all game, and when they get tanky they can continue to be as effective all game due to his scaling. garen peaks and then falls off. Garen hardly falls off, he scales great into lategame, the difference is his scaling turns into how tanky he can get, as opposed damage. and pure tankyness with little else isn't exactly very strong in the late game. you need damage in the late game. having almost no damage in the late game makes him more irrelevant than other characters that can be tanky and deal damage. thats why he trails off. yeah he gets tankier than everyone, but he doesn't DO much outside of that tankyness. no lockdown, no disables except a melee range silence and little damage. a theoretical champion that never dies except to towers/baron and only deals 100 melee dps with all his abilities and has no other form of utility isn't going to DO anything for your team.in the late game.he'll be useful early because the damage is equivalent to others at the time and he's not going to die. mid game similar things, the early team fights he's still a threat to the squishies who are forced to act around him, but once they get say a GA or something to kite them with defensive stats, they aren't going to be worried much, because they can win the 5v4 and then ignore you late. garens late game is about maximizing his silence and being scary looking, whether or not thats enough to be better than other tanky champions depends on the value you put on his silence compared to everything they can do. when you pick garen you are picking him knowing he falls off late compared to his early and mid game power. if you pick him expecting him to scale into the late game just as strong relatively as he is in the early and mid game, then you are making a mistake drafting him. holy shit is someone talking about garen and not one of you knows what the fuck you are talking about
chicken pls this was following a discussion about garens lategame damage learn to read plss
You're one of the worst posters I've ever seen just because of how confrontational you can be even though your points are valid.
If it were up to me I'd permaban you but I doubt it'd matter. You'd just make another account.
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Says the person who shamelessly vomited mental diarrhea into my Skarner thread breaking the rules I set for that thread, ending with an epic twitch meme.
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Anyone been playing a substantial amount of nunu at support recently? I thought I had to go jungle and the other team (purple) started Jax + Shyvana so I thought it would be fun to be annoying. Alas I was wrong so ended up in a Cait + Nunu lane against Lucian + Leona. Cait basically 1v2'd with BB and Spellthief empowered Iceblasts. Is this actually legit, or just the skill diff between Cait and Lucian was as big as it seemed?
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well cait is really one of the only champs you can run with nunu now, he is so weak in lane that you need a strong presence from your counterpart.
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Is Bloodthirster still the item to get as ADC? A friend told me to forget it and get Blade of the Ruined King instead 100% of the time. I'm just a noob, so I'm really not a position to judge for myself.
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On June 30 2014 03:35 cLutZ wrote:
Anyone been playing a substantial amount of nunu at support recently? I thought I had to go jungle and the other team (purple) started Jax + Shyvana so I thought it would be fun to be annoying. Alas I was wrong so ended up in a Cait + Nunu lane against Lucian + Leona. Cait basically 1v2'd with BB and Spellthief empowered Iceblasts. Is this actually legit, or just the skill diff between Cait and Lucian was as big as it seemed?
Nunu if one of those champions that is mediocre unless he's in a comp that enhances his strength, Blood Boil and the AS slow. I think he fits better in the jungle, but if you can drop him in lane supporting an AD like Cait that scales with Bloodboil super well, he is solid spot.
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On June 30 2014 03:46 nimbim wrote:
Is Bloodthirster still the item to get as ADC? A friend told me to forget it and get Blade of the Ruined King instead 100% of the time. I'm just a noob, so I'm really not a position to judge for myself.
Pretty much always get bork.Only in some very nonstandart situations bt is better as your ls item.
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On June 30 2014 03:46 nimbim wrote:
Is Bloodthirster still the item to get as ADC? A friend told me to forget it and get Blade of the Ruined King instead 100% of the time. I'm just a noob, so I'm really not a position to judge for myself.
Depends on the champion, some champs prefer IE first now, and some benefit from BotRK more than the IE first now.
BT is pretty much trash right now.
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On June 30 2014 03:24 Scip wrote:
Says the person who shamelessly vomited mental diarrhea into my Skarner thread breaking the rules I set for that thread, ending with an epic twitch meme.
This isn't relevant at all and you know that as much as I do. You could maybe tell us what you think of Teut as a poster but this is just pointless crap.
If you're salty about him shitting up your thread that's fine but that hasn't got anything to do with his opinions about Teut.
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On June 30 2014 03:56 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 03:24 Scip wrote:
Says the person who shamelessly vomited mental diarrhea into my Skarner thread breaking the rules I set for that thread, ending with an epic twitch meme. This isn't relevant at all and you know that as much as I do. You could maybe tell us what you think of Teut as a poster but this is just pointless crap. If you're salty about him shitting up your thread that's fine but that hasn't got anything to do with his opinions about Teut.
If he wants to call out this forum's moderation for being lenient he should probably look at his own posts first
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On June 30 2014 03:17 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 02:16 Scip wrote:On June 30 2014 02:00 Slayer91 wrote:
i just got a warning because princexizor most likely reported me LOL
i guess its fair though because i got obesechicken warned for diagnosing my salinity Someone read that entire fucking exchange and thought that that was the post that crossed the line? HAHAHAHA That was totally worth it. I wanted to report you for being a shit poster but didn't see the option other than low quality post history so refrained. At least I think I did. Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 22:23 Slayer91 wrote:On June 28 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:25 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:21 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:15 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk about post nerfs but twitch makes you hate your life as a tank Nah, that was the same sentiment in the entire history of LoL. Twitch is just a tank buster. On June 28 2014 09:20 canikizu wrote:
So the new topic is which 7800g adc can 1v1 against 4600g Garen? this sounds like the Rengar complaint. Where's the TL outcry that Garen is stupidly op'd and wants Riot to nerf the living shit out of him? he's one of the few champions with a fair established and unique power curve, hard to be mad at him for being good at his speciality and little else. when rengar insta kills someone they typically continue to do so all game, and when they get tanky they can continue to be as effective all game due to his scaling. garen peaks and then falls off. Garen hardly falls off, he scales great into lategame, the difference is his scaling turns into how tanky he can get, as opposed damage. and pure tankyness with little else isn't exactly very strong in the late game. you need damage in the late game. having almost no damage in the late game makes him more irrelevant than other characters that can be tanky and deal damage. thats why he trails off. yeah he gets tankier than everyone, but he doesn't DO much outside of that tankyness. no lockdown, no disables except a melee range silence and little damage. a theoretical champion that never dies except to towers/baron and only deals 100 melee dps with all his abilities and has no other form of utility isn't going to DO anything for your team.in the late game.he'll be useful early because the damage is equivalent to others at the time and he's not going to die. mid game similar things, the early team fights he's still a threat to the squishies who are forced to act around him, but once they get say a GA or something to kite them with defensive stats, they aren't going to be worried much, because they can win the 5v4 and then ignore you late. garens late game is about maximizing his silence and being scary looking, whether or not thats enough to be better than other tanky champions depends on the value you put on his silence compared to everything they can do. when you pick garen you are picking him knowing he falls off late compared to his early and mid game power. if you pick him expecting him to scale into the late game just as strong relatively as he is in the early and mid game, then you are making a mistake drafting him. holy shit is someone talking about garen and not one of you knows what the fuck you are talking about Show nested quote +chicken pls this was following a discussion about garens lategame damage learn to read plss You're one of the worst posters I've ever seen just because of how confrontational you can be even though your points are valid. If it were up to me I'd permaban you but I doubt it'd matter. You'd just make another account.
1: does anyone contest the point that nobody who was talking about garen had actually played with or as garen consistently enough to draw a conclusion? Seemed like terrible theorycrafting to me. Saying garen does nothing lategame is what people were saying back in 2011
2: being confrnotational is not necessarily a bad thing when it comes to discussion because if im polite and sensitive everyone will just assume im agreeing with them
it also takes extra effort to protect the egos of people who i believe are posting nonsense
I could make a reference to bill gates saying things like "that's the worst idea ive ever heard" and being generally aggressive against pitched ideas to make people defend them and convince him. That's not what i'm consciously tryign to do but it does suggest it might not be a bad way of getting as many points out of an argument as you can
it could be argued also that calling me a bad poster is based on you not liking me//getting angry at my posts which is altogether subjective, yet in your objective view my posts are decent, would that then just make me a good poster that you dont like?
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On June 30 2014 04:03 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 03:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On June 30 2014 02:16 Scip wrote:On June 30 2014 02:00 Slayer91 wrote:
i just got a warning because princexizor most likely reported me LOL
i guess its fair though because i got obesechicken warned for diagnosing my salinity Someone read that entire fucking exchange and thought that that was the post that crossed the line? HAHAHAHA That was totally worth it. I wanted to report you for being a shit poster but didn't see the option other than low quality post history so refrained. At least I think I did. On June 29 2014 22:23 Slayer91 wrote:On June 28 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:25 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:21 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:15 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk about post nerfs but twitch makes you hate your life as a tank Nah, that was the same sentiment in the entire history of LoL. Twitch is just a tank buster. On June 28 2014 09:20 canikizu wrote:
So the new topic is which 7800g adc can 1v1 against 4600g Garen? this sounds like the Rengar complaint. Where's the TL outcry that Garen is stupidly op'd and wants Riot to nerf the living shit out of him? he's one of the few champions with a fair established and unique power curve, hard to be mad at him for being good at his speciality and little else. when rengar insta kills someone they typically continue to do so all game, and when they get tanky they can continue to be as effective all game due to his scaling. garen peaks and then falls off. Garen hardly falls off, he scales great into lategame, the difference is his scaling turns into how tanky he can get, as opposed damage. and pure tankyness with little else isn't exactly very strong in the late game. you need damage in the late game. having almost no damage in the late game makes him more irrelevant than other characters that can be tanky and deal damage. thats why he trails off. yeah he gets tankier than everyone, but he doesn't DO much outside of that tankyness. no lockdown, no disables except a melee range silence and little damage. a theoretical champion that never dies except to towers/baron and only deals 100 melee dps with all his abilities and has no other form of utility isn't going to DO anything for your team.in the late game.he'll be useful early because the damage is equivalent to others at the time and he's not going to die. mid game similar things, the early team fights he's still a threat to the squishies who are forced to act around him, but once they get say a GA or something to kite them with defensive stats, they aren't going to be worried much, because they can win the 5v4 and then ignore you late. garens late game is about maximizing his silence and being scary looking, whether or not thats enough to be better than other tanky champions depends on the value you put on his silence compared to everything they can do. when you pick garen you are picking him knowing he falls off late compared to his early and mid game power. if you pick him expecting him to scale into the late game just as strong relatively as he is in the early and mid game, then you are making a mistake drafting him. holy shit is someone talking about garen and not one of you knows what the fuck you are talking about chicken pls this was following a discussion about garens lategame damage learn to read plss You're one of the worst posters I've ever seen just because of how confrontational you can be even though your points are valid. If it were up to me I'd permaban you but I doubt it'd matter. You'd just make another account. 1: does anyone contest the point that nobody who was talking about garen had actually played with or as garen consistently enough to draw a conclusion? Seemed like terrible theorycrafting to me. Saying garen does nothing lategame is what people were saying back in 2011 2: being confrnotational is not necessarily a bad thing when it comes to discussion because if im polite and sensitive everyone will just assume im agreeing with them it also takes extra effort to protect the egos of people who i believe are posting nonsense
1) Isn't that the point of theorycrafting? The fact that it's threory? I didn't read the theorycrafting, and I'm not saying it was good, but isn't it more productive to go "This theory crafting is bad, I have practical experience, and here is how things are." Instead of coming into the conversation going "Do you even rift?"
2) That just sounds to me like you aren't very adept at disagreeing without being disagreeable.
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On June 30 2014 04:09 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 04:03 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2014 03:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On June 30 2014 02:16 Scip wrote:On June 30 2014 02:00 Slayer91 wrote:
i just got a warning because princexizor most likely reported me LOL
i guess its fair though because i got obesechicken warned for diagnosing my salinity Someone read that entire fucking exchange and thought that that was the post that crossed the line? HAHAHAHA That was totally worth it. I wanted to report you for being a shit poster but didn't see the option other than low quality post history so refrained. At least I think I did. On June 29 2014 22:23 Slayer91 wrote:On June 28 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:25 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:21 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:15 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk about post nerfs but twitch makes you hate your life as a tank Nah, that was the same sentiment in the entire history of LoL. Twitch is just a tank buster. On June 28 2014 09:20 canikizu wrote:
So the new topic is which 7800g adc can 1v1 against 4600g Garen? this sounds like the Rengar complaint. Where's the TL outcry that Garen is stupidly op'd and wants Riot to nerf the living shit out of him? he's one of the few champions with a fair established and unique power curve, hard to be mad at him for being good at his speciality and little else. when rengar insta kills someone they typically continue to do so all game, and when they get tanky they can continue to be as effective all game due to his scaling. garen peaks and then falls off. Garen hardly falls off, he scales great into lategame, the difference is his scaling turns into how tanky he can get, as opposed damage. and pure tankyness with little else isn't exactly very strong in the late game. you need damage in the late game. having almost no damage in the late game makes him more irrelevant than other characters that can be tanky and deal damage. thats why he trails off. yeah he gets tankier than everyone, but he doesn't DO much outside of that tankyness. no lockdown, no disables except a melee range silence and little damage. a theoretical champion that never dies except to towers/baron and only deals 100 melee dps with all his abilities and has no other form of utility isn't going to DO anything for your team.in the late game.he'll be useful early because the damage is equivalent to others at the time and he's not going to die. mid game similar things, the early team fights he's still a threat to the squishies who are forced to act around him, but once they get say a GA or something to kite them with defensive stats, they aren't going to be worried much, because they can win the 5v4 and then ignore you late. garens late game is about maximizing his silence and being scary looking, whether or not thats enough to be better than other tanky champions depends on the value you put on his silence compared to everything they can do. when you pick garen you are picking him knowing he falls off late compared to his early and mid game power. if you pick him expecting him to scale into the late game just as strong relatively as he is in the early and mid game, then you are making a mistake drafting him. holy shit is someone talking about garen and not one of you knows what the fuck you are talking about chicken pls this was following a discussion about garens lategame damage learn to read plss You're one of the worst posters I've ever seen just because of how confrontational you can be even though your points are valid. If it were up to me I'd permaban you but I doubt it'd matter. You'd just make another account. 1: does anyone contest the point that nobody who was talking about garen had actually played with or as garen consistently enough to draw a conclusion? Seemed like terrible theorycrafting to me. Saying garen does nothing lategame is what people were saying back in 2011 2: being confrnotational is not necessarily a bad thing when it comes to discussion because if im polite and sensitive everyone will just assume im agreeing with them it also takes extra effort to protect the egos of people who i believe are posting nonsense 1) Isn't that the point of theorycrafting? The fact that it's threory? I didn't read the theorycrafting, and I'm not saying it was good, but isn't it more productive to go "This theory crafting is bad, I have practical experience, and here is how things are." Instead of coming into the conversation going "Do you even rift?" 2) That just sounds to me like you aren't very adept at disagreeing without being disagreeable.
theorycrafting is sort of a derogatory term for badly constructed theory from a shallow viewpoint. I provided solid analysis as to why I disagreed with the points, the fact that im being arguably overly aggressive I suppose is a personal choice but its an internet forum and I don't personally like to read boring posts so I try to spice things up
personally I view "you guys don't know what your talking about" as an introductory statement that explains the rest of my post, I guess its technically ad hominem but it explains clearly that I disagreed with most of what was said and not specific details
"learn to read plss" was a response to the fact that you responded and disagreed with my post without paying any attention to the context it was in and merely responded to the subject matter, so again overly aggressive perhaps, but I could have just said "Blah blah blah quoted post you could note that I was responding to claims on garens lategame so please pay attention that I simply decided not to tackle the subject of garens early game at this particular time so it would not have been relevant however here are my thoughts on the matter and next time please learn to read you stupid cunt"
LOL sorry I couldn't resist that bit at the end
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When did theorycrafting become derogatory? Am I old? Do people not even know about the ElitistJerks forums?
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On June 30 2014 04:13 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 04:09 Gahlo wrote:On June 30 2014 04:03 Slayer91 wrote:On June 30 2014 03:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On June 30 2014 02:16 Scip wrote:On June 30 2014 02:00 Slayer91 wrote:
i just got a warning because princexizor most likely reported me LOL
i guess its fair though because i got obesechicken warned for diagnosing my salinity Someone read that entire fucking exchange and thought that that was the post that crossed the line? HAHAHAHA That was totally worth it. I wanted to report you for being a shit poster but didn't see the option other than low quality post history so refrained. At least I think I did. On June 29 2014 22:23 Slayer91 wrote:On June 28 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:25 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:21 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 28 2014 10:15 wei2coolman wrote:On June 28 2014 10:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk about post nerfs but twitch makes you hate your life as a tank Nah, that was the same sentiment in the entire history of LoL. Twitch is just a tank buster. On June 28 2014 09:20 canikizu wrote:
So the new topic is which 7800g adc can 1v1 against 4600g Garen? this sounds like the Rengar complaint. Where's the TL outcry that Garen is stupidly op'd and wants Riot to nerf the living shit out of him? he's one of the few champions with a fair established and unique power curve, hard to be mad at him for being good at his speciality and little else. when rengar insta kills someone they typically continue to do so all game, and when they get tanky they can continue to be as effective all game due to his scaling. garen peaks and then falls off. Garen hardly falls off, he scales great into lategame, the difference is his scaling turns into how tanky he can get, as opposed damage. and pure tankyness with little else isn't exactly very strong in the late game. you need damage in the late game. having almost no damage in the late game makes him more irrelevant than other characters that can be tanky and deal damage. thats why he trails off. yeah he gets tankier than everyone, but he doesn't DO much outside of that tankyness. no lockdown, no disables except a melee range silence and little damage. a theoretical champion that never dies except to towers/baron and only deals 100 melee dps with all his abilities and has no other form of utility isn't going to DO anything for your team.in the late game.he'll be useful early because the damage is equivalent to others at the time and he's not going to die. mid game similar things, the early team fights he's still a threat to the squishies who are forced to act around him, but once they get say a GA or something to kite them with defensive stats, they aren't going to be worried much, because they can win the 5v4 and then ignore you late. garens late game is about maximizing his silence and being scary looking, whether or not thats enough to be better than other tanky champions depends on the value you put on his silence compared to everything they can do. when you pick garen you are picking him knowing he falls off late compared to his early and mid game power. if you pick him expecting him to scale into the late game just as strong relatively as he is in the early and mid game, then you are making a mistake drafting him. holy shit is someone talking about garen and not one of you knows what the fuck you are talking about chicken pls this was following a discussion about garens lategame damage learn to read plss You're one of the worst posters I've ever seen just because of how confrontational you can be even though your points are valid. If it were up to me I'd permaban you but I doubt it'd matter. You'd just make another account. 1: does anyone contest the point that nobody who was talking about garen had actually played with or as garen consistently enough to draw a conclusion? Seemed like terrible theorycrafting to me. Saying garen does nothing lategame is what people were saying back in 2011 2: being confrnotational is not necessarily a bad thing when it comes to discussion because if im polite and sensitive everyone will just assume im agreeing with them it also takes extra effort to protect the egos of people who i believe are posting nonsense 1) Isn't that the point of theorycrafting? The fact that it's threory? I didn't read the theorycrafting, and I'm not saying it was good, but isn't it more productive to go "This theory crafting is bad, I have practical experience, and here is how things are." Instead of coming into the conversation going "Do you even rift?" 2) That just sounds to me like you aren't very adept at disagreeing without being disagreeable. theorycrafting is sort of a derogatory term for badly constructed theory from a shallow viewpoint. I provided solid analysis as to why I disagreed with the points, the fact that im being arguably overly aggressive I suppose is a personal choice but its an internet forum and I don't personally like to read boring posts so I try to spice things up personally I view "you guys don't know what your talking about" as an introductory statement that explains the rest of my post, I guess its technically ad hominem but it explains clearly that I disagreed with most of what was said and not specific details
Pls, I thought you didn't believe in derogatory terms.
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