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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 12:42:16
June 29 2014 12:41 GMT
#1821
On June 29 2014 21:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
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On June 29 2014 21:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay let's play with this retarded analogy of yours. If you're alive and everyone is labeling you dead. You're probably doing a really shitty job of convincing people that you're actually alive....

There's no reason for it. i'm tired of people trying to argue with me just to argue. go argue with someone else or eachother, that way you can all get your rocks off together instead of involving me.

It's just funny how everyone always ends up arguing with you

Most of the time that only happens to people who are unwilling to admit they were wrong
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 29 2014 12:43 GMT
#1822
On June 29 2014 21:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
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On June 29 2014 21:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 29 2014 21:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay let's play with this retarded analogy of yours. If you're alive and everyone is labeling you dead. You're probably doing a really shitty job of convincing people that you're actually alive....

There's no reason for it. i'm tired of people trying to argue with me just to argue. go argue with someone else or eachother, that way you can all get your rocks off together instead of involving me.

It's just funny how everyone always ends up arguing with you

Most of the time that only happens to people who are unwilling to admit they were wrong

its only 2-3 people that try it. and most of them do it with others too.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 12:50:09
June 29 2014 12:49 GMT
#1823
On June 29 2014 21:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 21:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 29 2014 21:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay let's play with this retarded analogy of yours. If you're alive and everyone is labeling you dead. You're probably doing a really shitty job of convincing people that you're actually alive....

There's no reason for it. i'm tired of people trying to argue with me just to argue. go argue with someone else or eachother, that way you can all get your rocks off together instead of involving me.

It's just funny how everyone always ends up arguing with you

Most of the time that only happens to people who are unwilling to admit they were wrong


that is an extremely dangerous statement and i think its fundamentally wrong. most of the time this happens when someone is going against the mainstream. I know from experience that LoL and DotA discussions (in contrary to other games like starcraft) tend to base arguments on "everyone does it" and "pro's do it" a lot and I think prince doesn't buy into that and even if he's extremely stubborn, what makes his arguments kind of unique is not being wrong all the time but being anti-mainstream all the time (which can be right or wrong).
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 29 2014 12:54 GMT
#1824
I don't think it's so much that he goes against the mainstream--I do that a lot too, and so do many other people like Scip/VayneAuthority/AsianEcksDragon/etc.

It's that he's wrong about it and has nothing to back it up. Honestly. I wouldn't be arguing with him if he was right.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 29 2014 12:55 GMT
#1825
On June 29 2014 21:54 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't be arguing with him if he was right.

Hahahahahahahahahha
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 29 2014 13:00 GMT
#1826
On June 29 2014 21:54 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I don't think it's so much that he goes against the mainstream--I do that a lot too, and so do many other people like Scip/VayneAuthority/AsianEcksDragon/etc.

It's that he's wrong about it and has nothing to back it up. Honestly. I wouldn't be arguing with him if he was right.

I don't go against mainstream, I dictate what mainstream is.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 29 2014 13:01 GMT
#1827
I think you guys need to play some more crit Gangplank. Now that's some fun stuff.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 29 2014 13:03 GMT
#1828
On June 29 2014 21:55 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 21:54 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Honestly. I wouldn't be arguing with him if he was right.

Hahahahahahahahahha

Actually, you're right, I might argue with him even if I knew I was wrong just because I really don't like him and I think he's retarded.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 29 2014 13:05 GMT
#1829
I'm pretty sure you'd argue with a tree if its leaves fell before autumn.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 13:07:54
June 29 2014 13:07 GMT
#1830
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.


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I'm on GOLD CHAIN
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 29 2014 13:09 GMT
#1831
On June 29 2014 22:07 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.



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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 13:12:35
June 29 2014 13:09 GMT
#1832
so i havent been reading recently and it looks like things have gotten out of hand withotu me to call them bad
so far from what i gather skimming the last few pages

gahlo: mad cause bad
px: mad cause bad
zerg_russian: DID I TELL ANYONE I HAVE A PSYCH DEGREE YET????

HURR DURR GUISE THE SYSTEM DOESNT EXACTLY GIVE ME MY TRUE SKILL LEVEL THE IMAGINARY NUMBERS ASSIGNED TO ME ARENT HIGH ENOUGH RITO PLS

oh, need to update
px: mad cause bad and is a terrible victim of society which irrationally hates him and argues with him despite his superior intelligence and well argued points
if px was a woman he'd be a be a raging feminazi for sure

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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 29 2014 13:15 GMT
#1833
I think I would legitimately diagnose half of this forum with a personality disorder

Myself included, of course
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 29 2014 13:16 GMT
#1834
Nobody who's had pizza with Dyrus could POSSIBLY have a personality disorder 5HAT, don't insult yourself
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 29 2014 13:18 GMT
#1835
Or you could go to school for a major in professional sports and leave us plebs behind. I've always wanted to major in tennis.

As long as everyone agrees that everyone else is bad this thread can continue in blissful stupidity.
Hey! How you doin'?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
June 29 2014 13:19 GMT
#1836
On June 29 2014 22:16 Scip wrote:
Nobody who's had pizza with Dyrus could POSSIBLY have a personality disorder 5HAT, don't insult yourself

He's called 5HAT because he has 5 personalities he has to juggle, dur.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 29 2014 13:20 GMT
#1837
On June 29 2014 22:16 Scip wrote:
Nobody who's had pizza with Dyrus could POSSIBLY have a personality disorder 5HAT, don't insult yourself

Insult? I was just putting myself in the same category as the great Scipaeus. What other category to strive for than Narcissistic personality disorder, the most holy of personality disorders?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 29 2014 13:22 GMT
#1838
I think you forgot to post a screenshot with that
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 29 2014 13:22 GMT
#1839
On June 29 2014 22:20 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 22:16 Scip wrote:
Nobody who's had pizza with Dyrus could POSSIBLY have a personality disorder 5HAT, don't insult yourself

Insult? I was just putting myself in the same category as the great Scipaeus. What other category to strive for than Narcissistic personality disorder, the most holy of personality disorders?

In hospital with 4th degree burns
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 13:27:22
June 29 2014 13:23 GMT
#1840
On June 28 2014 10:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 10:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 10:21 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 28 2014 10:15 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 28 2014 10:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
idk about post nerfs but twitch makes you hate your life as a tank

Nah, that was the same sentiment in the entire history of LoL. Twitch is just a tank buster.
On June 28 2014 09:20 canikizu wrote:
So the new topic is which 7800g adc can 1v1 against 4600g Garen?

this sounds like the Rengar complaint.
Where's the TL outcry that Garen is stupidly op'd and wants Riot to nerf the living shit out of him?

he's one of the few champions with a fair established and unique power curve, hard to be mad at him for being good at his speciality and little else. when rengar insta kills someone they typically continue to do so all game, and when they get tanky they can continue to be as effective all game due to his scaling. garen peaks and then falls off.

Garen hardly falls off, he scales great into lategame, the difference is his scaling turns into how tanky he can get, as opposed damage.

and pure tankyness with little else isn't exactly very strong in the late game. you need damage in the late game. having almost no damage in the late game makes him more irrelevant than other characters that can be tanky and deal damage. thats why he trails off. yeah he gets tankier than everyone, but he doesn't DO much outside of that tankyness. no lockdown, no disables except a melee range silence and little damage.

a theoretical champion that never dies except to towers/baron and only deals 100 melee dps with all his abilities and has no other form of utility isn't going to DO anything for your team.in the late game.he'll be useful early because the damage is equivalent to others at the time and he's not going to die. mid game similar things, the early team fights he's still a threat to the squishies who are forced to act around him, but once they get say a GA or something to kite them with defensive stats, they aren't going to be worried much, because they can win the 5v4 and then ignore you late.

garens late game is about maximizing his silence and being scary looking, whether or not thats enough to be better than other tanky champions depends on the value you put on his silence compared to everything they can do.

when you pick garen you are picking him knowing he falls off late compared to his early and mid game power. if you pick him expecting him to scale into the late game just as strong relatively as he is in the early and mid game, then you are making a mistake drafting him.


holy shit is someone talking about garen and not one of you knows what the fuck you are talking about

-garens pretty shitty early game ever since the E nerfs, you are a solid laner because of passive but you won't be able to deny anyone who wants to farm
-garens midgame is okay but its not really a curve ahead either because you can't do anything without running aat people anyway so you rely on teamfights
-garens lategame damage scales just fine because your R scales with missing HP and you always have enough burst to do about 2k damage to a squishy when your R is up

if you think he does no damage later on but does tons early you absolutely have not actually played him and are talking out of your ass.
he is quite tanky but not absurdly so since penetration mitigates the effect of his W and it's hard to use the active part too effectively. also randuins and warmogs nerfs and force of nature being removed took away his best items that could make him retardedly tanky so now you probably just want Sunfire/LW/Hexdrinker and then get giants/wardens and then warmogs or banshees
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