EPTPBE Discussion Thread - Page 5
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Gahlo
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Slusher
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 that said you'll be able to cast double up probably more than twice as often in lane making it more damage over time in the lane phase but less burst. | ||
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cLutZ
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Gahlo
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On February 21 2014 06:16 cLutZ wrote: I still dont understand riot's support plan. Can someone explain what they want it to look like? Talisman Line => Sustain in lane "taditional" supports Frost Queen Line => Harrass/AP centric supports Mountain Line => Agressive Melee support Kind of like how the spirit stones go: Golem => Tanky junglers Wraith => AP junglers Lizard => AD junglers e. Oh, and finished. | ||
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cLutZ
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Gahlo
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On February 21 2014 08:02 cLutZ wrote: But, they are nerfing the talisman line no? And traditional supports already are bad no? Buffing tier 1, nerfing tier 2, and tier 3 is still stupid. Frost Queen line is getting a massive buff. Mountain line is getting improvements. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:14 Gahlo wrote: Buffing tier 1, nerfing tier 2, and tier 3 is still stupid. Frost Queen line is getting a massive buff. Mountain line is getting improvements. Well, I really fear the "mountain line" supports. Don't get me wrong, I love Alistar and Leona, and I think Annie (obviously not mountain, but also popular) is fun, but its not good for those to be the mainstream picks. I prefer a botlane with those champs as niche picks for teams that want a kill lane bot, or need engage they cant get elsewhere. Having engage botlanes be standard crowds out the rest of the picks. Whereas, even when Zyra and Sona were very strong, there was always a place for Leona in teams. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:47 cLutZ wrote: Well, I really fear the "mountain line" supports. Don't get me wrong, I love Alistar and Leona, and I think Annie (obviously not mountain, but also popular) is fun, but its not good for those to be the mainstream picks. I prefer a botlane with those champs as niche picks for teams that want a kill lane bot, or need engage they cant get elsewhere. Having engage botlanes be standard crowds out the rest of the picks. Whereas, even when Zyra and Sona were very strong, there was always a place for Leona in teams. I agree, which is why I think Talisman needs a nerf. There' no reason it gives the most CDR while have the, subjectively, best active. Everything else at tier 3 becomes a wash and isn't what you have the item for. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
like I'd care less if they took the damage off the shield entirely than nerfing the gold and regen from t1 | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:58 Slusher wrote: I still don't think the buff to the Mountian active make up for the nerfs to t1&2 like I'd care less if they took the damage off the shield entirely than nerfing the gold and regen from t1 I don't like it at T1 either, though T2 is in a decent spot. | ||
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cLutZ
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Gahlo
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On February 27 2014 06:43 cLutZ wrote: How about those 3.3 Tear changes? Free Mana all day even without spells seems like a large buff to the Nomicon+Tear route to compete with Athenes. You mean the 7.5 mana/minute? | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Gahlo
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Lord Tolkien
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It speeds up the Tear breakpoint for Tear related items by ~2-5 minutes, though it is certainly a weak change, yes. | ||
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Slusher
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NovaTheFeared
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Gahlo
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JazzVortical
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On March 01 2014 05:58 Slusher wrote: I like that they had the forsight to undo the Fizz nerf if they are going to nerf lichbane that hard (which is warrented imo) but Kayle might need a bit of the same love as well (at least back to .8) In no world does Kayle need burst buffs. | ||
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Slusher
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