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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
February 20 2014 21:02 GMT
#81
Editing for today's update...
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 20 2014 21:07 GMT
#82
man I just saw your math on the MF Q changes, those AD break evens are basically 6 slot which is that said you'll be able to cast double up probably more than twice as often in lane making it more damage over time in the lane phase but less burst.
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 20 2014 21:16 GMT
#83
I still dont understand riot's support plan. Can someone explain what they want it to look like?
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 21:24:35
February 20 2014 21:23 GMT
#84
On February 21 2014 06:16 cLutZ wrote:
I still dont understand riot's support plan. Can someone explain what they want it to look like?

Talisman Line => Sustain in lane "taditional" supports
Frost Queen Line => Harrass/AP centric supports
Mountain Line => Agressive Melee support

Kind of like how the spirit stones go:
Golem => Tanky junglers
Wraith => AP junglers
Lizard => AD junglers

e. Oh, and finished.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 20 2014 23:02 GMT
#85
But, they are nerfing the talisman line no? And traditional supports already are bad no?
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 23:15:20
February 20 2014 23:14 GMT
#86
On February 21 2014 08:02 cLutZ wrote:
But, they are nerfing the talisman line no? And traditional supports already are bad no?

Buffing tier 1, nerfing tier 2, and tier 3 is still stupid. Frost Queen line is getting a massive buff. Mountain line is getting improvements.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 20 2014 23:47 GMT
#87
On February 21 2014 08:14 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 08:02 cLutZ wrote:
But, they are nerfing the talisman line no? And traditional supports already are bad no?

Buffing tier 1, nerfing tier 2, and tier 3 is still stupid. Frost Queen line is getting a massive buff. Mountain line is getting improvements.



Well, I really fear the "mountain line" supports. Don't get me wrong, I love Alistar and Leona, and I think Annie (obviously not mountain, but also popular) is fun, but its not good for those to be the mainstream picks. I prefer a botlane with those champs as niche picks for teams that want a kill lane bot, or need engage they cant get elsewhere. Having engage botlanes be standard crowds out the rest of the picks. Whereas, even when Zyra and Sona were very strong, there was always a place for Leona in teams.

Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
February 20 2014 23:55 GMT
#88
On February 21 2014 08:47 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 08:14 Gahlo wrote:
On February 21 2014 08:02 cLutZ wrote:
But, they are nerfing the talisman line no? And traditional supports already are bad no?

Buffing tier 1, nerfing tier 2, and tier 3 is still stupid. Frost Queen line is getting a massive buff. Mountain line is getting improvements.



Well, I really fear the "mountain line" supports. Don't get me wrong, I love Alistar and Leona, and I think Annie (obviously not mountain, but also popular) is fun, but its not good for those to be the mainstream picks. I prefer a botlane with those champs as niche picks for teams that want a kill lane bot, or need engage they cant get elsewhere. Having engage botlanes be standard crowds out the rest of the picks. Whereas, even when Zyra and Sona were very strong, there was always a place for Leona in teams.

I agree, which is why I think Talisman needs a nerf. There' no reason it gives the most CDR while have the, subjectively, best active. Everything else at tier 3 becomes a wash and isn't what you have the item for.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 23:59:33
February 20 2014 23:58 GMT
#89
I still don't think the buff to the Mountian active make up for the nerfs to t1&2

like I'd care less if they took the damage off the shield entirely than nerfing the gold and regen from t1
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
February 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#90
On February 21 2014 08:58 Slusher wrote:
I still don't think the buff to the Mountian active make up for the nerfs to t1&2

like I'd care less if they took the damage off the shield entirely than nerfing the gold and regen from t1

I don't like it at T1 either, though T2 is in a decent spot.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 26 2014 21:43 GMT
#91
How about those 3.3 Tear changes? Free Mana all day even without spells seems like a large buff to the Nomicon+Tear route to compete with Athenes.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
February 26 2014 21:58 GMT
#92
On February 27 2014 06:43 cLutZ wrote:
How about those 3.3 Tear changes? Free Mana all day even without spells seems like a large buff to the Nomicon+Tear route to compete with Athenes.

You mean the 7.5 mana/minute?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 26 2014 22:09 GMT
#93
Haha. Whoops. I Misread the notes

:/
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
February 28 2014 18:06 GMT
#94
Updated.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 28 2014 19:21 GMT
#95
On February 27 2014 06:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 06:43 cLutZ wrote:
How about those 3.3 Tear changes? Free Mana all day even without spells seems like a large buff to the Nomicon+Tear route to compete with Athenes.

You mean the 7.5 mana/minute?

It speeds up the Tear breakpoint for Tear related items by ~2-5 minutes, though it is certainly a weak change, yes.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 28 2014 20:58 GMT
#96
I like that they had the forsight to undo the Fizz nerf if they are going to nerf lichbane that hard (which is warrented imo) but Kayle might need a bit of the same love as well (at least back to .8)
Carrilord has arrived.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7230 Posts
February 28 2014 22:31 GMT
#97
OH SHIT I'm gonna be able to first blood people at 2 again on Fizz.
日本語が分かりますか
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 01 2014 00:39 GMT
#98
Updated, switched formats cause having a billion spoilers was dumb. Gonna have a compiled changes list and the most recent update.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 01 2014 00:42 GMT
#99
On March 01 2014 05:58 Slusher wrote:
I like that they had the forsight to undo the Fizz nerf if they are going to nerf lichbane that hard (which is warrented imo) but Kayle might need a bit of the same love as well (at least back to .8)

In no world does Kayle need burst buffs.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 01 2014 00:49 GMT
#100
if you give her .8 on Q (in corrolation with the lich nerf) it isn't a buff
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