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miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
July 04 2014 11:48 GMT
#281
Does riot not understand that no one wants essence reaver because it doesn't actually help you get over your low mana slump? Like if tear gave no mana before it was stacked, no one would buy it either.
@miicah88
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 04 2014 12:09 GMT
#282
On July 04 2014 20:48 miicah wrote:
Does riot not understand that no one wants essence reaver because it doesn't actually help you get over your low mana slump? Like if tear gave no mana before it was stacked, no one would buy it either.

Unfortunately it seems not.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 05 2014 02:16 GMT
#283
Someone said lifesteal would become unique and I was scared, then I noticed it was only BT. I think the 20% is still less than what it was in S2 full stacks which is hilarious.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 08 2014 20:33 GMT
#284
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/78-pbe-update.html
More changes to kassadin and lucian, now lucian has no mana cost on his E which is interesting to say the least.
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 08 2014 21:17 GMT
#285
On July 09 2014 05:33 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/78-pbe-update.html
More changes to kassadin and lucian, now lucian has no mana cost on his E which is interesting to say the least.

Oooh, nice. I was waiting til the 7/7 notes weren't WIP anymore due to the Lucian stuff and then things got hectic around here. Will update in a bit. =]
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 11 2014 08:46 GMT
#286
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/07/79-pbe-update.html
More lucian changes, lucian is going full kassadin over here.
Glorious SEA doto
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 11 2014 09:56 GMT
#287
Those mecha splash arts, my god.

Also is it just me or does it seem like Lucian will become a super strong solo laner (most likely top) with those changes?
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
July 12 2014 01:22 GMT
#288
On July 11 2014 18:56 JazzVortical wrote:
Those mecha splash arts, my god.

Also is it just me or does it seem like Lucian will become a super strong solo laner (most likely top) with those changes?


Have you tried current Lucian top vs Nasus? That thing is so unfair i can't imagine PBE Lucian vs him and similar tops.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 15 2014 03:14 GMT
#289
I like the new reaver. Unfortunately most champions who need mana and AD eg. Sion/Jayce can get by without using any mana on waves and only really run into problems after long teamfights. Essence reaver doesn't restore that much mana for those two. I could see it gotten after tear though.

Glad that Ghostblade was reverted.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 22:36:46
July 18 2014 22:36 GMT
#290
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/28997-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-7-18-2014-major
Fuck off with wanting a summary
tl;dr Ultra bot lane loving and a bit of lee/lulu/leblanc
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 18 2014 23:04 GMT
#291
Ouph, those Lee changes.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 19 2014 01:32 GMT
#292
Wow, that Lee Change is pretty massive (for a company said they were uncomfortable changing him like 3 days ago).
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 19 2014 01:36 GMT
#293
On July 19 2014 10:32 cLutZ wrote:
Wow, that Lee Change is pretty massive (for a company said they were uncomfortable changing him like 3 days ago).

To be fair, they garnered a lot of criticism for saying that. Before they said they're going to nerf him, then the community outcry tried to stop it. Now that he's one of the few of the cadre of big bad evil junglers still in the limelight, the sharks are circling and hoping for blood.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 19 2014 01:39 GMT
#294
Cant wait till they buff Hecarim 1 patch before worlds along with boots of swiftness then act all confused when he runs over everything/is 100% pick/ban.
Freeeeeeedom
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 19 2014 02:07 GMT
#295
Nerfing Lee and Evelynn is fine, but leaving Elise alone at the same time just makes her first pick status again.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 19 2014 02:13 GMT
#296
On July 19 2014 11:07 JazzVortical wrote:
Nerfing Lee and Evelynn is fine, but leaving Elise alone at the same time just makes her first pick status again.

Given the amount of changes already on the PBE, this will probably be one of their bigger, slower patches.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 19 2014 04:01 GMT
#297
On July 19 2014 11:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 11:07 JazzVortical wrote:
Nerfing Lee and Evelynn is fine, but leaving Elise alone at the same time just makes her first pick status again.

Given the amount of changes already on the PBE, this will probably be one of their bigger, slower patches.

Fair point, it's unlikely they'd put out all of these changes at once, particularly if their next patch is 2-3 weeks away.

Still, if they did nerf Lee and Evelynn at once, Elise is queen of the jungle once again.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 20 2014 05:21 GMT
#298
On July 04 2014 21:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 20:48 miicah wrote:
Does riot not understand that no one wants essence reaver because it doesn't actually help you get over your low mana slump? Like if tear gave no mana before it was stacked, no one would buy it either.

Unfortunately it seems not.

They should justmake Essence Reaver like
flat mana steal, like Udyrs old turtle stance instead of this scaling up as you get lower bullshit just make it liek 10% flat and call it a day
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 20 2014 12:46 GMT
#299
On July 20 2014 14:21 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 21:09 Gahlo wrote:
On July 04 2014 20:48 miicah wrote:
Does riot not understand that no one wants essence reaver because it doesn't actually help you get over your low mana slump? Like if tear gave no mana before it was stacked, no one would buy it either.

Unfortunately it seems not.

They should justmake Essence Reaver like
flat mana steal, like Udyrs old turtle stance instead of this scaling up as you get lower bullshit just make it liek 10% flat and call it a day

Riot despises mana steal.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 20 2014 13:58 GMT
#300

Lux passive now has AP scaling
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