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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 20 2014 15:14 GMT
#301
Lux ultimate skin?!?!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 20 2014 15:22 GMT
#302
On July 21 2014 00:14 Sufficiency wrote:
Lux ultimate skin?!?!

Am I on reddit?
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
July 20 2014 20:22 GMT
#303
Lux passive change seems pretty inconsequential tbh. Through the laning phase her passive will end up dealing very similar damage to what it does already, and after the laning phase, you'll generally be trying to stay outside of autoattack range anyway.

Won't say no to it though, I always thought it was odd that her passive didn't have a ratio on it.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 20 2014 23:45 GMT
#304
On July 21 2014 05:22 Cheap0 wrote:
Lux passive change seems pretty inconsequential tbh. Through the laning phase her passive will end up dealing very similar damage to what it does already, and after the laning phase, you'll generally be trying to stay outside of autoattack range anyway.

Won't say no to it though, I always thought it was odd that her passive didn't have a ratio on it.

It's a buff as long as Lux has over 10AP/level.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
July 21 2014 00:11 GMT
#305
Nerf to support Lux!??!!? wait even then you get enough AP...

Free buff yay
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 00:30:44
July 21 2014 00:29 GMT
#306
On July 20 2014 21:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2014 14:21 arb wrote:
On July 04 2014 21:09 Gahlo wrote:
On July 04 2014 20:48 miicah wrote:
Does riot not understand that no one wants essence reaver because it doesn't actually help you get over your low mana slump? Like if tear gave no mana before it was stacked, no one would buy it either.

Unfortunately it seems not.

They should justmake Essence Reaver like
flat mana steal, like Udyrs old turtle stance instead of this scaling up as you get lower bullshit just make it liek 10% flat and call it a day

Riot despises mana steal.

Not like mana steal from another champion, wasnt really sure what to call it lolol.
like +10% mana back on attack or something.
Or like 6% might be more balanced now that i think about it

On July 21 2014 09:11 Ethelis wrote:
Nerf to support Lux!??!!? wait even then you get enough AP...

Free buff yay


At 10 ap/l I think 180 ap is pretty reasonable for late game even as support
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 21 2014 03:24 GMT
#307
After adding the Lux change to the list, there are currently a whopping 20 champions with changes on the PBE.
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
July 21 2014 19:59 GMT
#308
Well they are testing lulu buffs on PBE cuz u know.. shes in need of them
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 21 2014 20:00 GMT
#309
Heh. I'm waiting for the sites to finalize their changes before updating the OP.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 21 2014 20:47 GMT
#310
Whole lots of changes.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
July 21 2014 21:08 GMT
#311
how do they get meaningful stats out of pbe if they make so many changes?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
July 21 2014 21:09 GMT
#312
holy balls i don't know where to start.

Gragas Nerfs and Kayle Buffs...

WTF?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 21:31:23
July 21 2014 21:20 GMT
#313
Elise nerfs feel slightly overkill, granted that's a phrase that has been said too many times about elise but still wow.
Context mitigates it I guess, I don't understand I'd have to see it now
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 21 2014 22:21 GMT
#314
pretty annoyed with the amount of changes considering the 2 week patch cycle, but riot is going to do what it's going to do.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 22 2014 01:44 GMT
#315
On July 22 2014 07:21 Slusher wrote:
pretty annoyed with the amount of changes considering the 2 week patch cycle, but riot is going to do what it's going to do.

I was out most of the day, has Riot said they were wrapping up this patch?
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
July 22 2014 04:41 GMT
#316
Less MR on chalice?!? Even MOAR Diana!!! I feel that she's been pretty good since the athene's nerf, specially since people started playing more Fizz. In my experience W max Diana facerolls Fizz stupidly hard.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
July 22 2014 05:34 GMT
#317
Not sure why they nerfed DFG cooldown, I can only assume because the exhaust change would encourage assassins again?
@miicah88
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 07:31:15
July 22 2014 07:22 GMT
#318
Exhaust
Exhaust now reduces "Movement Speed and Attack Speed by 30%, Magic and Armor resist by 10, and damage dealt by 40% for 2.5 seconds" from "Damage dealt by 50% and attack speed and movement speed reduction by 30%

Dang, I thought Exhaust was always 50% aspd reduction too.

I want to use this as Jayce top vs Fiora, Irelia or other top laners that I can't straight up fight in melee range and kill me fast. I think it'll still be possible, but I don't understand why they're changing exhaust. Is it just that it has too much of a dramatic effect in the game? 10 armpen / physical pen for 10% DR is fine though.

Exhaust used to have a mastery that gave it armor pen/ magic pen so this is kind of like a reversion.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
July 22 2014 09:33 GMT
#319
That Rylai's change intrigues me. Less health, more AP. Not sure I like that direction.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 22 2014 10:07 GMT
#320
Kayle buffs?

The fuck....
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