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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 01 2014 01:08 GMT
#101
On March 01 2014 09:49 Slusher wrote:
if you give her .8 on Q (in corrolation with the lich nerf) it isn't a buff

Even so, still think it's highly unnecessary.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 01:19:07
March 01 2014 01:17 GMT
#102
well thats your view of things and mine is that even before her nerfs (which is with a 1.0 Q) she would not have been OP with this version of lich bane.

pls don't confuse strong/playable with OP
Carrilord has arrived.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 01 2014 02:34 GMT
#103
On March 01 2014 10:17 Slusher wrote:
well thats your view of things and mine is that even before her nerfs (which is with a 1.0 Q) she would not have been OP with this version of lich bane.

pls don't confuse strong/playable with OP

And my view is that I don't think anything that gives her strong burst is good, considering her sustained damage.

Anyway, I'm glad they are finally starting to hit Annie, and in what seems like the right area.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 01 2014 04:41 GMT
#104
I'm so glad they aren't just flat nerfing annie, I love playing her mid. It's pretty much a buff, more damage after 250 ap, so after 2-3 items you're actually doing considerably more damage. Her late game is going to be even more scary for squishies.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 11:55:03
March 01 2014 10:53 GMT
#105
Updated.

Riot verified my PBE account today, so after it's finally done updating I intend to do a jungle farm test.

e. Have to wait till tomorrow night at midnight PST to be bumped to level 30. zzzz
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 01 2014 12:13 GMT
#106
I wonder if the new Wriggles path will help some junglers. Lee and Yi seem obvious, but what about someone like Nocturne? Or are the spirit items just still an too good compared to Wriggles path?

Also, I like the new format
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
March 01 2014 12:34 GMT
#107
The tree R mana-reduction is really big. Q cost reduction not so much, it's still W and E you want to use but can't cause of mana for jungle clears.

Btw, I think the format of [pbe] <- [current] is hard to read, it should be read as (example):
Annie Q has been changed from [current] to [pbe].
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 01 2014 15:56 GMT
#108
There seems to be new map textures in the PBE update.

http://yurixyworks.com/2014/03/01/a-new-official-map-for-lol-in-development/
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 17:23:32
March 01 2014 17:22 GMT
#109
Surrender at 20 seems to list a .1 AP ratio buff on Twisted Fate W (.4->.5) which you didn't list here. Also it listed Fizz W buff as .15->.25 AP. I am confused.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
March 01 2014 17:28 GMT
#110
On March 02 2014 02:22 phyvo wrote:
Surrender at 20 seems to list a .1 AP ratio buff on Twisted Fate W (.4->.5) which you didn't list here. Also it listed Fizz W buff as .15->.25 AP. I am confused.

The TF buff was from the first update, which is in the overall changes. The Fizz buff to .35 was a typo on my part.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 21:45:52
March 01 2014 21:45 GMT
#111
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/27497-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-3-1-2014-kassadin

Kassadin changes/rework.

I think the new kit could actually be cool. Seraphs, RoA and FH with the Q shield would make him pretty tanky in a fight
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 01 2014 22:09 GMT
#112
Reignofgaming's bot patch notes tend to be inaccurate, you really have to confirm them in game before getting excited about them. For instance, it makes zero sense that he'd have a 0.3 mana ratio on an auto attack and a 0.1 ratio on his ultimate. Meanwhile the ratio can't possibly be 0.3 * max mana, that would be 600 damage per auto with a seraphs, ridiculous.

Currently though Kassadin crashes the game so I can't confirm anything.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
March 01 2014 22:12 GMT
#113
It's better to wait for S@20, they're much more accurate for a small delay.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
March 02 2014 01:02 GMT
#114
I'm gonna wait on correct #s before putting up the Kass rework.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 11:59:16
March 02 2014 11:56 GMT
#115
Just did a 20 minute power jungler on shyvana. Went AS/armor/mr/movespeed, 9/21/0, only used burnout to travel camps when going golems to wight because nothing else was up and forced myself to back when buffs respawned when I was outustaining the jungle, and only took camps in my jungle. Had a couple pathing issues from overestimating damage and tiny bit of lag.

Build path:
Machete5=>Madred's=>boots1, longsword, dagger(remaining wriggles parts)=>Wriggles=>Tiamat

Results:
Feral Flare acquired 1 or 2 camps after wriggles at around 11:XX.
Could have picked up some Tiamat parts when I got wriggles, but when I started I didn't put any forthought in what I'd do after.
Finished with Feral Flare, boots1, and 3k unspent gold.
I don't know how much bonus gold I got since it doesn't have a counter.

Obviously, doing suicides back and forth in the jungle for 20 minutes won't work in a real game, but hitting 5k income on purely jungle was insane. I could have dropped that 3k into a Randuin's.

If anybody wants me to do another run with a different farmy jungler, I'll give it a go. Unfortunately, left games don't leave a replay file so I can't check how much bonus damage I had. I think I'm going to redo this later today.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 02 2014 17:28 GMT
#116
tiamat shyvana is also kinda cheating lol
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
March 02 2014 17:49 GMT
#117
On March 03 2014 02:28 Slusher wrote:
tiamat shyvana is also kinda cheating lol

If your goal is to powerfarm the jungle, I kinda expect you to get a Hydra.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 19:53:01
March 02 2014 19:52 GMT
#118
I just did a similar thing with Jax but I finished boots 2 (mercs) instead of leaving it at boots1 and ended with 1886 gold and level 13 at 20 minutes. 30 stacks on Feral flare, level 13. I took buffs whenever they were up but mainly backed when it was convenient, that is, soon after I could upgrade to madreds + boots1, or wriggles, or tiamat. Forgot where I fit boots2 in there. Earned about ~680 gold from wriggles/FF passive (that's 6 GP/10 though obviously it increased clear speed too). Timing for FF upgrade was similar (I didn't mark it down), I had about 22 upgrade stacks when I first finished wriggles so I got it really quick. I ran ad marks/quints 21/9/0.

I'm not much of a jungler so I'm sure I could have been more optimized, though IMO it's hard to imagine a universe where the jungler has no lane presence for 10 minutes let alone 20. Pretty impressed that Jax could keep up fairly well with shyv nonetheless (if I hadn't bought mercs that'd be 2789 leftover gold) though I could be missing something here.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
March 02 2014 20:39 GMT
#119
On March 02 2014 20:56 Gahlo wrote:
Just did a 20 minute power jungler on shyvana. Went AS/armor/mr/movespeed, 9/21/0, only used burnout to travel camps when going golems to wight because nothing else was up and forced myself to back when buffs respawned when I was outustaining the jungle, and only took camps in my jungle. Had a couple pathing issues from overestimating damage and tiny bit of lag.

Build path:
Machete5=>Madred's=>boots1, longsword, dagger(remaining wriggles parts)=>Wriggles=>Tiamat

Results:
Feral Flare acquired 1 or 2 camps after wriggles at around 11:XX.
Could have picked up some Tiamat parts when I got wriggles, but when I started I didn't put any forthought in what I'd do after.
Finished with Feral Flare, boots1, and 3k unspent gold.
I don't know how much bonus gold I got since it doesn't have a counter.

Obviously, doing suicides back and forth in the jungle for 20 minutes won't work in a real game, but hitting 5k income on purely jungle was insane. I could have dropped that 3k into a Randuin's.

If anybody wants me to do another run with a different farmy jungler, I'll give it a go. Unfortunately, left games don't leave a replay file so I can't check how much bonus damage I had. I think I'm going to redo this later today.

I think Yi deserves a crack at it too.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 20:44:00
March 02 2014 20:43 GMT
#120
On March 03 2014 05:39 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 20:56 Gahlo wrote:
Just did a 20 minute power jungler on shyvana. Went AS/armor/mr/movespeed, 9/21/0, only used burnout to travel camps when going golems to wight because nothing else was up and forced myself to back when buffs respawned when I was outustaining the jungle, and only took camps in my jungle. Had a couple pathing issues from overestimating damage and tiny bit of lag.

Build path:
Machete5=>Madred's=>boots1, longsword, dagger(remaining wriggles parts)=>Wriggles=>Tiamat

Results:
Feral Flare acquired 1 or 2 camps after wriggles at around 11:XX.
Could have picked up some Tiamat parts when I got wriggles, but when I started I didn't put any forthought in what I'd do after.
Finished with Feral Flare, boots1, and 3k unspent gold.
I don't know how much bonus gold I got since it doesn't have a counter.

Obviously, doing suicides back and forth in the jungle for 20 minutes won't work in a real game, but hitting 5k income on purely jungle was insane. I could have dropped that 3k into a Randuin's.

If anybody wants me to do another run with a different farmy jungler, I'll give it a go. Unfortunately, left games don't leave a replay file so I can't check how much bonus damage I had. I think I'm going to redo this later today.

I think Yi deserves a crack at it too.

What do you want me to build post Wriggles/boots1? Gimme rune/mastery setup too.
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