On October 31 2013 23:54 Slayer91 wrote: "Wasted" and "low efficiency" are different. Even annie can use crit because she technically auto attacks. Tiger udyr might get like 15 more on his shield (or phenoix like 5 damage on his r or something) but you'd never buy deathcap on him so you can say the ap is wasted, you can say the crit is wasted and mana is debateable, but id lean toward it being wasted only if you have another mana item already.
I've actually tried Triforce on Zilean and other unconventional Triforce users in bot games or on my smurf once or twice. I don't think it's a terrible item on anyone for the mid game state but it falls off on anyone who wants to make use of multiplicative scaling. Eg. Annie might want cdr, mana, mana regen, ap, and magic pen (flat and %) as well as anything that scales off those stats (lichbane and Deathcap). But for that one item timing, Triforce isn't bad on her.
I think Triforce is fine on anyone who can use all of the stats but many champions (bruisers in particular) have this power window where the ADC isn't destroying them in teamfights. That's why they build Triforce. To exploit this timing window. And of course some champions can proc Triforce's passive more than others.
Guess there is truth to "low efficiency though". AD, mana, hp, crit low efficiency on Annie
I don't smurf much and when I do it's almost always because my friends want me to smurf or I got a timeout.
On November 01 2013 08:09 wei2coolman wrote: Should just remove wota and only have spirit of spec wraith
That's pretty much what they did yo. I expect spec wraith will be remade or removed
spectral wraith did get remade. it gives more regen and slightly more AP, but no longer has spell vamp and also has two new passives: UNIQUE Passive: 5% of spell damage dealt to monsters is restored as Health and Mana. UNIQUE Passive - Bounty Hunter: Champion kills, assists and epic monsters grant 30 bonus gold and large monsters grant 10 bonus gold.
On November 01 2013 07:19 Ketara wrote: Also, some of these support changes.
Janna +0.9 AP ratio on her AD on her shield.
A Janna with 700 AP's shield shields for 870 and gives 680 AD.
Oh and with that much AP her W's passive movespeed bonus will be +366%.
These numbers can't be legit.
Probably will be adjusted, but her other abilities got a big nerf in scaling too.
I honestly think they forgot to add a zero in front of the 9.
That would be so trash. .09 ratio? Lol
Nah. Still pretty decent. You're thinking like someone who doesn't build AP.
This does two things for Janna
1) Solidifies the fact that she doesn't need boots, build AP instead 2) Turns all that AP into damage for her carries
At 200 AD you will grant +18 damage on your shield, have +26% (and +3%) Move Speed.
I mean, Janna is ridiculously strong at the moment with AP without AP scaling on her E this doesn't seem to nerf her (as i thought they would most assuredly have to)
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