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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 01 2013 00:09 GMT
#721
LOL HIS FUCKING DANCE IS SNOOP DOGG
Jesus.
The long Nasus VO sound file---I don't know what is being used where, but the section in the middle without all the weird vocal effects...that one is pretty decent. It's no classic Nasus, but acceptable.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 01 2013 00:11 GMT
#722
On November 01 2013 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
LOL HIS FUCKING DANCE IS SNOOP DOGG
Jesus.
The long Nasus VO sound file---I don't know what is being used where, but the section in the middle without all the weird vocal effects...that one is pretty decent. It's no classic Nasus, but acceptable.


I still dont think it really compares at all. To honest it just makes me sad. I'm biased as all hell, but at best its maybe half as good as Classic Nasus.

-.-

Its just change for the sake of change.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 01 2013 00:12 GMT
#723
On November 01 2013 08:39 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 08:19 Goumindong wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:10 Amarok wrote:
On November 01 2013 07:47 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On November 01 2013 07:19 Ketara wrote:
Also, some of these support changes.

Janna +0.9 AP ratio on her AD on her shield.

A Janna with 700 AP's shield shields for 870 and gives 680 AD.

Oh and with that much AP her W's passive movespeed bonus will be +366%.

These numbers can't be legit.

Probably will be adjusted, but her other abilities got a big nerf in scaling too.


I honestly think they forgot to add a zero in front of the 9.

That would be so trash. .09 ratio? Lol

Nah. Still pretty decent. You're thinking like someone who doesn't build AP.

This does two things for Janna

1) Solidifies the fact that she doesn't need boots, build AP instead
2) Turns all that AP into damage for her carries

At 200 AD you will grant +18 damage on your shield, have +26% (and +3%) Move Speed.

I mean, Janna is ridiculously strong at the moment with AP without AP scaling on her E this doesn't seem to nerf her (as i thought they would most assuredly have to)

Lulu's W does a big movespeed buff and more AP than +200AP would give for the shield at .09 scaling (at rank 5, lulu W grants 60AP). It is better than nothing, but .09 makes no sense.


Wait what? How does .09 make no sense? You do realize that there's still the base amount of AD being applied? 0.09 would mean that at +200 AP Janna is providing (roughly) an unstacked Bloodthirster worth of damage for an AD, a way stronger buff than Lulu's W.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 01 2013 00:19 GMT
#724
On November 01 2013 09:11 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
LOL HIS FUCKING DANCE IS SNOOP DOGG
Jesus.
The long Nasus VO sound file---I don't know what is being used where, but the section in the middle without all the weird vocal effects...that one is pretty decent. It's no classic Nasus, but acceptable.


I still dont think it really compares at all. To honest it just makes me sad. I'm biased as all hell, but at best its maybe half as good as Classic Nasus.

-.-

Its just change for the sake of change.


Also, completely agree. Probably the character that needed a VO the least.

The skin is awesome though. Shame feedback on the VO change will be lost in the sea off "TAKE MY WALLT RITO!!!"
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 01 2013 00:20 GMT
#725
On November 01 2013 09:11 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
LOL HIS FUCKING DANCE IS SNOOP DOGG
Jesus.
The long Nasus VO sound file---I don't know what is being used where, but the section in the middle without all the weird vocal effects...that one is pretty decent. It's no classic Nasus, but acceptable.


I still dont think it really compares at all. To honest it just makes me sad. I'm biased as all hell, but at best its maybe half as good as Classic Nasus.

-.-

Its just change for the sake of change.

I don't like the new VO on Nasus or any part of his remake except it's shinier.

But it doesn't affect me.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 01 2013 00:20 GMT
#726
All I know, is that the key to a fun S4 for supports is for Janna, Lulu, Nami, and Zyra to be tier 1.

Im sick of hooks, sick of playing sona, and not really interested in playing Melle supports on a regular basis (maybe the occassional alistar or leona).
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 01 2013 00:21 GMT
#727
Sorry for asking this again, the older post got buried?

Anyone on my friend list wanna trade Mystery Gift? I am Bad Morde Bot.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
November 01 2013 00:22 GMT
#728
So Lucian is getting buffed why?
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 01 2013 00:28 GMT
#729
On November 01 2013 09:22 Ethelis wrote:
So Lucian is getting buffed why?

Riot is out of touch with intelligent decisions and a silver player is the head balancer.

:D
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 01 2013 00:31 GMT
#730
On November 01 2013 09:12 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 08:39 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:19 Goumindong wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:10 Amarok wrote:
On November 01 2013 07:47 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On November 01 2013 07:19 Ketara wrote:
Also, some of these support changes.

Janna +0.9 AP ratio on her AD on her shield.

A Janna with 700 AP's shield shields for 870 and gives 680 AD.

Oh and with that much AP her W's passive movespeed bonus will be +366%.

These numbers can't be legit.

Probably will be adjusted, but her other abilities got a big nerf in scaling too.


I honestly think they forgot to add a zero in front of the 9.

That would be so trash. .09 ratio? Lol

Nah. Still pretty decent. You're thinking like someone who doesn't build AP.

This does two things for Janna

1) Solidifies the fact that she doesn't need boots, build AP instead
2) Turns all that AP into damage for her carries

At 200 AD you will grant +18 damage on your shield, have +26% (and +3%) Move Speed.

I mean, Janna is ridiculously strong at the moment with AP without AP scaling on her E this doesn't seem to nerf her (as i thought they would most assuredly have to)

Lulu's W does a big movespeed buff and more AP than +200AP would give for the shield at .09 scaling (at rank 5, lulu W grants 60AP). It is better than nothing, but .09 makes no sense.


Wait what? How does .09 make no sense? You do realize that there's still the base amount of AD being applied? 0.09 would mean that at +200 AP Janna is providing (roughly) an unstacked Bloodthirster worth of damage for an AD, a way stronger buff than Lulu's W.

As you see later, I did not know that there was still the base amount of AD.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 01 2013 00:32 GMT
#731
On November 01 2013 09:31 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:12 Amarok wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:39 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:19 Goumindong wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 01 2013 08:10 Amarok wrote:
On November 01 2013 07:47 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On November 01 2013 07:19 Ketara wrote:
Also, some of these support changes.

Janna +0.9 AP ratio on her AD on her shield.

A Janna with 700 AP's shield shields for 870 and gives 680 AD.

Oh and with that much AP her W's passive movespeed bonus will be +366%.

These numbers can't be legit.

Probably will be adjusted, but her other abilities got a big nerf in scaling too.


I honestly think they forgot to add a zero in front of the 9.

That would be so trash. .09 ratio? Lol

Nah. Still pretty decent. You're thinking like someone who doesn't build AP.

This does two things for Janna

1) Solidifies the fact that she doesn't need boots, build AP instead
2) Turns all that AP into damage for her carries

At 200 AD you will grant +18 damage on your shield, have +26% (and +3%) Move Speed.

I mean, Janna is ridiculously strong at the moment with AP without AP scaling on her E this doesn't seem to nerf her (as i thought they would most assuredly have to)

Lulu's W does a big movespeed buff and more AP than +200AP would give for the shield at .09 scaling (at rank 5, lulu W grants 60AP). It is better than nothing, but .09 makes no sense.


Wait what? How does .09 make no sense? You do realize that there's still the base amount of AD being applied? 0.09 would mean that at +200 AP Janna is providing (roughly) an unstacked Bloodthirster worth of damage for an AD, a way stronger buff than Lulu's W.

As you see later, I did not know that there was still the base amount of AD.


F5 OP
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 01 2013 00:34 GMT
#732
On November 01 2013 09:22 Ethelis wrote:
So Lucian is getting buffed why?

Because riot want to make people play him.Pretty much how it always goes.He could probably use some small buffs like casting w while moving or something to buff his laning slightly but other than that he is decent.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 01 2013 00:35 GMT
#733
Well, I just saw and listened to the new Nasus. I have to say I don't mind the new voice as much seeing how I think the guy doing it also voiced the angel in Diablo 3(forgot his name) who helps you. He looks alot more fancy and such but the thing I definately do NOT like is the dance. Whoever thought of changing the dance to THAT or thought of changing it whatsoever should be shot.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 01 2013 00:38 GMT
#734
Tyreal?
Freeeeeeedom
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 01 2013 00:41 GMT
#735
On November 01 2013 09:38 cLutZ wrote:
Tyreal?


Yea, thats the name.
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 00:44:07
November 01 2013 00:43 GMT
#736
I did some fast testing on the pbe. The ap-scaling of the ad part of the Janna shield seems to start at about 0.05 at rank 1 and goes up to about 0.15 at rank 5.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 01 2013 00:44 GMT
#737
On November 01 2013 09:22 Ethelis wrote:
So Lucian is getting buffed why?

Because people like Req think(mistakenly) that Lucian is bad.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
November 01 2013 00:48 GMT
#738
On November 01 2013 09:38 cLutZ wrote:
Tyreal?


wait wait wait... all riot had to do was say
"Read these lines in Tyraels voice"

and there wouldn't be complaining anywhere near the levels that they're hearing now.

for those who haven't played diablo 3
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 01 2013 00:50 GMT
#739
On November 01 2013 09:48 Parametric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:38 cLutZ wrote:
Tyreal?


wait wait wait... all riot had to do was say
"Read these lines in Tyraels voice"

and there wouldn't be complaining anywhere near the levels that they're hearing now.

for those who haven't played diablo 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDerwu6x40o

"for those who haven't played diablo 3"
*links to a video with spoilers for diablo 3*
Well played.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 01 2013 00:51 GMT
#740
On November 01 2013 09:50 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:48 Parametric wrote:
On November 01 2013 09:38 cLutZ wrote:
Tyreal?


wait wait wait... all riot had to do was say
"Read these lines in Tyraels voice"

and there wouldn't be complaining anywhere near the levels that they're hearing now.

for those who haven't played diablo 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDerwu6x40o

"for those who haven't played diablo 3"
*links to a video with spoilers for diablo 3*
Well played.

With any luck it will save them the trouble of playing that game.
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