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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 25 2013 10:02 GMT
#6661
On October 25 2013 18:13 TheYango wrote:
Unsurprisingly the French and Chinese guys understand subject/object grammar better than the American.

Plz cheep is as ABC as you can get what a scrub
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 25 2013 10:12 GMT
#6662
--- Nuked ---
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 11:06:39
October 25 2013 11:01 GMT
#6663
On October 25 2013 19:12 krndandaman wrote:
plat 1 too hard. go 4-3 overall, gain only 10 points total lol.

That's pretty good unless you are with crazy mmr wtf.

Vayne/tristana do really well vs jinx a bit earlier someone asked.
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
October 25 2013 11:13 GMT
#6664
Does anyone here ever use j4 as a support? I wanted to jungle j4 earlier tonight for practice but alas I was relegated to support. I picked j4 anyways and was very successful with him (I've seen him support before to good success also). He seems like a Leona type support with more utility and mobility but less hard cc. He does a boatload of damage though along with the cc.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
October 25 2013 11:18 GMT
#6665
On October 25 2013 18:10 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk


WHO

DO NOT USE WHOM IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE WHOM

What would be the correct wording if one wanted to use "whom" here? "Is there a consensus on whom Jinx loses to?" or something in that vein?

(I'm not answering the dblade thing but about everything has been stated anyway.).

To whom does Jinx lose to?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 25 2013 11:43 GMT
#6666
"Ward limitations make people depend on their team since they're not allowed to make it their focus anymore."

Either Riot suck at communicating their ideas and goals to people, or I've got that creeping feeling that the vision reduction in s4 prospects is more a side-effect of their changes than an intended goal. You're not limited because Riot wants vision to be (if the team pool resources you can still ward the shit out of the map—they're actually making removing vision harder with the pinks changes), you just get told "you can't do that anymore, so that you can't be forced to anymore!"
Oh, yeah. Thanks so much for the "choices" you're so proud of when you do PR regarding your design decisions.

It's like removing vendor machines from schools, not for health issues, but so bullies can't force other kids to buy them soda.
So I hope it's just Riot sucking at communicating their goals (they'd really have to suck hard at it to fail to mention they want to reduce vision).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 11:48:40
October 25 2013 11:46 GMT
#6667
wtf.......limitations on how many wards you can put on the map at one time?

WHAT?!

....That sounds fucking awful

Worst part of that post:

Besides, having less control over vision as an individual player, I am quite excited about the concept of having items on my supports for once


NO. YOU'RE THE BITCH OF THE TEAM. SUPPORTS DON'T BUY ITEMS. THEY BUY WARRDDSS.

Shit dude, they're taking out the spirit of why Support is fun play. Support is fun because I can beat people on other teams who buy shit Aegis or shit Shurelias or shit gp5s and just buy wards, wards, pinks, oracles, wards, wards, wards and give team access to EVERYTHING because only god knows how many times people in Silver get caught.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 12:02:02
October 25 2013 11:58 GMT
#6668
No, ideally you'd want to be able to buy both (most certainly would need lowering the cost of support-oriented items since regardless of you income it's hard to have "too much vision/too many wards").

Currently, if you have more vision you win and your income is likely too low for most items anyway (even getting more than Sightstone and one of Shurelya/Locket/etc. is rare unless game's a killfest) so people pool all their resources towards vision. There's still the choice though, but "social pressure" forces vision.

Riot "solves" this by removing the choice: you can't have more vision. Which means that you can't get asked to provide more vision (which was the goal; ideally people would be educated but we all know how likely it is). But you can't decide on your own either.
Sure, you've still got that gold, so you're going to spend it, and since you can't buy vision you'll buy items. Because you don't really have a choice anymore.

So we're back to the "either they wanted to reduce the amount of vision you can give anyway and they failed at communicating it (plus if the team coordinates you can still have a ton of vision so it doesn't even work), either they believe cancer can be cured by painkillers since you don't suffer anymore" eg. bad design.

I'm curious about the bushes tweaks too, since now being limited in pinks and not having oracles anymore (currently being tested) you really don't want to get screwed by these 2 pixels and the banana bushes.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 25 2013 12:12 GMT
#6669
On October 25 2013 18:13 TheYango wrote:
Unsurprisingly the French and Chinese guys understand subject/object grammar better than the American.


i learned all my grammar terms from French
still don't know them in English though
yolo
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 12:15:55
October 25 2013 12:15 GMT
#6670
On October 25 2013 20:46 Zergneedsfood wrote:
wtf.......limitations on how many wards you can put on the map at one time?

WHAT?!

....That sounds fucking awful

Worst part of that post:

Show nested quote +
Besides, having less control over vision as an individual player, I am quite excited about the concept of having items on my supports for once


NO. YOU'RE THE BITCH OF THE TEAM. SUPPORTS DON'T BUY ITEMS. THEY BUY WARRDDSS.

Shit dude, they're taking out the spirit of why Support is fun play. Support is fun because I can beat people on other teams who buy shit Aegis or shit Shurelias or shit gp5s and just buy wards, wards, pinks, oracles, wards, wards, wards and give team access to EVERYTHING because only god knows how many times people in Silver get caught.


lol
I always don't buy wards and then buy support items and laugh at supports with no items and teamfight presence and occasionally pinging to back when people walk into areas that probably have 5 guys in them.

nemesis
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 12:46:02
October 25 2013 12:17 GMT
#6671
On October 25 2013 19:02 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 18:13 TheYango wrote:
Unsurprisingly the French and Chinese guys understand subject/object grammar better than the American.

Plz cheep is as ABC as you can get what a scrub


??

i learned chinese before english and i lived in china before murica

also ya these changes blow
TranslatorBaa!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 25 2013 12:40 GMT
#6672
I'm excited about these changes xD
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 13:08:21
October 25 2013 13:07 GMT
#6673
So I´m trying to learn ADC (or well, get better at it), and wondering what picks besides the jinx/caitlyn/corki trend you guys like. Currently I´m thinking tristana/varus/twitch, but also considering Ashe (dat arrow). What do you guys think? Is Lucian worth a shot? What about Sivir, she seems sort of strong versus Caitlyn, but I´m unsure if good Cait´s will poke me out of lane.
hi
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
October 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#6674
Vayne, Lucian
TranslatorBaa!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 13:15:22
October 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#6675
On October 25 2013 21:12 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 18:13 TheYango wrote:
Unsurprisingly the French and Chinese guys understand subject/object grammar better than the American.


i learned all my grammar terms from French
still don't know them in English though
yolo

in cz 8th and 9th grade of elementary school the czech is all about sentence contruction and identifying objects, subjects and such.

In czech it can affect how things are spelled though so it makes sense.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 13:14:12
October 25 2013 13:13 GMT
#6676
On October 25 2013 22:07 Sponkz wrote:
So I´m trying to learn ADC (or well, get better at it), and wondering what picks besides the jinx/caitlyn/corki trend you guys like. Currently I´m thinking tristana/varus/twitch, but also considering Ashe (dat arrow). What do you guys think? Is Lucian worth a shot? What about Sivir, she seems sort of strong versus Caitlyn, but I´m unsure if good Cait´s will poke me out of lane.

Don't play sivir unless you are masochist.Lucian after the q change is actually pretty nice.I'd suggest tristana cause she is really fun.Having engage is always good though since you can't rely on your teammates to do it.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 25 2013 13:14 GMT
#6677
Ezreal beats everything
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 25 2013 13:14 GMT
#6678
Tristana is easily my favorite ADC to play, but she still just doesn't seem all that strong despite being buffed like 4 times. Makes me sad.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 25 2013 13:17 GMT
#6679
On October 25 2013 22:14 Ketara wrote:
Tristana is easily my favorite ADC to play, but she still just doesn't seem all that strong despite being buffed like 4 times. Makes me sad.

Other than your shit mid(which is fixable if you do well in lane and can go ie>zeal) she is pretty good in early/late.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 13:28:35
October 25 2013 13:27 GMT
#6680
Sir, AD Tristana mid is amazing, I don't know what you're talking about.

+ Show Spoiler +
Against melees
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That nobody plays anymore
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Because everything else beats them too.


http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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