EPTSince that game it's become an inside joke where during select DoA will say something like, Ziggs would be good here, and Monte will go "oh god no"
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
Since that game it's become an inside joke where during select DoA will say something like, Ziggs would be good here, and Monte will go "oh god no" | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Try to tell someone "LoL's going to be at the next Dreamhack!" and "LoL's going to be on OGN!", before the LCS wiped most occidental LoL tourneys. I'm pretty sure the second sentence would be met with "What's OGN?" by most people. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:17 Seuss wrote: I can think of a half-dozen champions off the top of my head that are far and away worse than Ziggs, unquestionably so. Spoiler alert: All of them are Heimerdinger. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
beads 4 green wards beads 2 green 1 pink 2 pink 3 green 2 pot and also give ur reason. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:22 AsmodeusXI wrote: Spoiler alert: All of them are Heimerdinger. woah woah woah you shut your filthy mouth | ||
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Stupidity
United States209 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:25 TheYango wrote: Heimerdinger might actually be a "better" champ than Ziggs because while he could be considered worse in a vacuum, he has a more defined niche that he excels in over other champs (it's just that niche is very rarely one you want/have to draft for) while with Ziggs it's hard to say that he's necessarily got good niche more than just being mediocre at things other champs are good at. Heimer is great at pushing. The only thing that stops him is towers auto-aggroing his own turrets. Could we see the rise of Ohmwrecker/Banner of Command Heimerdinger? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11755 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:26 justiceknight wrote: whats the best sp for rank? beads 4 green wards beads 2 green 1 pink 2 pink 3 green 2 pot and also give ur reason. I currently go 3 green 1 pink 4 red 1 blue on any support i expect to be kinda aggressive on (I am on a sona binge currently except for the rare games thresh is playable). Used to go faerie, but i need at least 2 green 1 pink, and having 4 pots just destroys the enemy lane so often that i don't want to play without them anymore. General plan is place 1 ward at mid wraiths ramp at ~1:45 so it covers both mid and river, then push botlane to get 2 first and be really aggressive. The ward at mid + at tribush keep you completely save against any ganks, even if you are right in front of their turret. Be a total dick in their lanebush. If they ward it, i pink it. This is also why i need at least 2 green 1 pink. 4 Pots allow you to trade with impunity and just bully the enemy out of lane, while 1 blue gives you mana if you need it. Combined with 1/13/16 masteries and splitpen reds/ad quints+ ignite lets you just destroy fools who come into lane with greedy shit like gp10 runes or only 1-2 pots. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:31 Stupidity wrote: Heimer is great at pushing. The only thing that stops him is towers auto-aggroing his own turrets. Could we see the rise of Ohmwrecker/Banner of Command Heimerdinger? Heimer's actually also a crushingly powerful teamfighter with/against the right teamcomps. It's just that there are certain common picks that are exceedingly hard for him to deal with (e.g. Zed). EDIT: Though one thing to note is that while Heimer is probably more useful in a competitive draft for reasons I stated before, Ziggs is also probably the better solo queue champ for the same reasons--since in solo queue you don't need a niche pick, but something that is well rounded, even if it's worse than other well-rounded picks. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
I wish I was just trolling... | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:26 justiceknight wrote: whats the best sp for rank? beads 4 green wards beads 2 green 1 pink 2 pink 3 green 2 pot and also give ur reason. Support start? 1 green, 3 pink, 2 pots 2 green, 2 pink, 3 pots 3 green, 1 pink, 5 pots More pinks if your jungler wants to gank bot and more pots if you want to trade aggressively. 3 pinks for shit like Eve. I usually don't start Bead or Charm because I don't like getting Philo Stone. I buy mana pots on mana hungry supports. I rush Sightstone because Heart of Gold. | ||
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lefty
United States1896 Posts
On September 06 2013 00:49 jcarlsoniv wrote: That's more of a culture thing, I think. It's a hard balance to be critical but constructive. A lot of NA players (this is a VERY rash generalization) are not receptive to criticism, and would potentially be unhappy with a lot of criticism when the casters are analyzing. But yes, I personally would prefer casters to be more critical in LCS and such. OGN and nicegameTV cater to (mostly) different demographics as far as I know. Think about how critical asian countries are of their youth - pressing for only the best. American culture is far more lackadaisical in that regard. This isn't the ONLY factor, but I certainly think it contributes a non-negligible amount. Perhaps there is some cultural influence, but culture doesn't explain either the blatant dishonesty or incompetence in calling a 10k gold difference and playing it off as if the game is still closely contested. As far as I'm concerned the demographics that OGN (korean cast to be clear) and LCS cater to are identical; your average LoL player. All i am really asking in riot is to treat the viewers with a little respect, and honestly you don't need some genius challenger level understanding to do this. | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:26 justiceknight wrote: whats the best sp for rank? beads 4 green wards beads 2 green 1 pink 2 pink 3 green 2 pot and also give ur reason. My opinion: In most match ups, I start 4 greens, pink, 2 pots (2 red or 1/1 depending on how purple my champion is). Versus (or with) Twitch or Eve I generally bring two pinks into lane. I also never really start with a bead - the regen is cute but you lose three minutes of vision or a lot of early XP backing for more wards. In any event, you're almost never going to want Philo before SS (it does happen sometimes - if you magically get a double and 6 minute drag or something). In the rebroadcast of the KT/CJ match last night, I think Madlife started with only greens, and his opponent had a pink. Neither had beads (I am almost certain). I almost exclusively play 5 stacks though, so yolo queue could require different stuff. | ||
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Don_Julio
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:45 Don_Julio wrote: Well everytime a basketballgame is in the final minutes and one team is ahead by more than 10 points someone brings up T-Mac against the Spurs. Video, if you don't know what Don Julio is talking about. | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:42 lefty wrote: Perhaps there is some cultural influence, but culture doesn't explain either the blatant dishonesty or incompetence in calling a 10k gold difference and playing it off as if the game is still closely contested. As far as I'm concerned the demographics that OGN (korean cast to be clear) and LCS cater to are identical; your average LoL player. All i am really asking in riot is to treat the viewers with a little respect, and honestly you don't need some genius challenger level understanding to do this. To be fair it's much more likely for an NA/EU team to throw a 10k lead than a (good) ogn team to throw a 4k lead | ||
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