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1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
August 21 2013 07:42 GMT
#6381
Wow, Immunity is pretty good.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 21 2013 07:46 GMT
#6382
these new skins wow. My Wallet QQ
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 21 2013 08:01 GMT
#6383
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299707
Updated anivia thread.


And yeah, the summer skins are pretty sweet. Too bad I don't play any of those champions =(
Porouscloud - NA LoL
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 21 2013 08:22 GMT
#6384
Ranked 5s are pretty fun:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


User was warned for this post
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
copt
Profile Joined February 2012
United States25 Posts
August 21 2013 08:29 GMT
#6385
On August 21 2013 17:22 XilDarkz wrote:
Ranked 5s are pretty fun:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


noob j4 no tank turret, lets jayce die
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 21 2013 08:32 GMT
#6386
On August 21 2013 17:22 XilDarkz wrote:
Ranked 5s are pretty fun:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



There's a brag thread.

Ranked 5s placements are volatile. If you're placed into silver/gold it stays as volatile.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 21 2013 08:33 GMT
#6387
? am I supposed to be seeing something there. I seriously scanned like that five times before I decided it was probably a trashpost, please prove me wrong.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 08:39:26
August 21 2013 08:39 GMT
#6388
On August 21 2013 16:23 silencefc wrote:
Just tried out a game as Support Viktor. It was awesome.

Went Q > W > Q > E > Q > R, then R>Q>E>W.

Got my Twitch the First Blood at level 2 when I landed a juicy W + Ignite on their MF. Out traded Thresh by running up for Q and autoattacking; if they stood their ground I dropped a W under their feet.

Got the Augment: Power after Sighstone for the 30% run speed and HP. I could initiate in lane whenever I wanted by Qing a creep and running at them for W. Twitch + Viktor ults aoe's down everything and even won a 2v3 Jungler fight started by Thresh hook on me, we kited them to our tower then chased them to theirs for 2 kills to 0.

Zero mana problems as long as I only used E for all-ins.

[image loading]


Tested this for two games. Have come to the conclusion that it sucks ass. There wasn't a single point in game where i didn't wish i was Sona instead. Q range is smaller then Sona's q range. Q shield comes to late to help in trades and is worse then Sona W, plus it doesn't also heal your ADC. W + R combined are worse then Sona's R. Auto attack animation sucks hard.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
August 21 2013 08:51 GMT
#6389
Why would you ever compare Victor to Sona? Their skillsets are too different to ever be played the same. Compare him to someone like Taric or Zyra or even better - Nami and you have a much better point of reference.
His W is potentially the best support CC you can wish for, and I can see him poke and trade really favorably against melee supports with his Q.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 21 2013 08:51 GMT
#6390
Love the leona skin, way classier even than some other champ's base skin.

Beach bully mordekaiser though, I mean cmon.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
August 21 2013 08:57 GMT
#6391
is support nidalee ever useful or good? it seems to me that she only gets picked when someone is forced to play support and doesn't want to win
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 21 2013 09:02 GMT
#6392
On August 21 2013 17:32 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 17:22 XilDarkz wrote:
Ranked 5s are pretty fun:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



There's a brag thread.

Ranked 5s placements are volatile. If you're placed into silver/gold it stays as volatile.

Everybody in that game is a regular poster in GD I think? so relevant
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 09:21:21
August 21 2013 09:11 GMT
#6393
On August 21 2013 18:02 XilDarkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 17:32 JonnyLaw wrote:
On August 21 2013 17:22 XilDarkz wrote:
Ranked 5s are pretty fun:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


There's a brag thread.

Ranked 5s placements are volatile. If you're placed into silver/gold it stays as volatile.

Everybody in that game is a regular poster in GD I think? so relevant


It's a brag post, irrespective of who's in it. There's a thread for that.

Also Gaming gear vs DP on the gamescom wildcard qualifier atm
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 09:24:32
August 21 2013 09:22 GMT
#6394
On August 21 2013 17:51 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Why would you ever compare Victor to Sona? Their skillsets are too different to ever be played the same. Compare him to someone like Taric or Zyra or even better - Nami and you have a much better point of reference.
His W is potentially the best support CC you can wish for, and I can see him poke and trade really favorably against melee supports with his Q.


K, then lets go with Nami. Nami Q is better then Vik W in every single respect. More range, knockup> stun, and you don't have to stay in it for ages for it to actually do something. Also it does damage too. And has less CD.

Nami W is better then Viktor Q in nearly every aspect. More range. very slightly less damage, but way more heal then the shield from Vic Q. Heal of equal value are generally better then shields in lane since you can use them for sustain. More flexible. Can jump a third time.

And now it comes. Nami has a third skill that is usually better then both of those and thus maxed first, while victors E is not (On a support).

Oh yes, ultimates.

Vic does more damage. Namis hit a much larger area, knocks people up and slows them instead of doing a 0.5 second silence that doesn't really do anything except cancel channeled spells.

Everyone can poke trade really favorably against melee supports, because they can't hit you back. If they get onto you, you are in an allin situation anyways.

On August 21 2013 17:57 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
is support nidalee ever useful or good? it seems to me that she only gets picked when someone is forced to play support and doesn't want to win


She can be good if your opponents are really, really bad. But in that situation pretty much anyone can be good. As long as you push and don't get hit by every single spear early on, she is useless. If you let yourself be pushed under your turret and keep on eating spears, she is good.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 09:31:29
August 21 2013 09:30 GMT
#6395
Xil doesnt understand the concept of a brag thread. He's been told at least 3 times now and continually comes here to stroke his epeen instead.

New skins are epic, i need that leona skin.

Wtf support viktor? I dont understand that at all. His W is useful, thats it. His damage will scale off pretty damn quickly after early game and he'll just be fuckin useless because he offers literally zero apart from his W.
Useless wet fish.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 21 2013 09:35 GMT
#6396
On August 21 2013 18:30 Capped wrote:
Xil doesnt understand the concept of a brag thread. He's been told at least 3 times now and continually comes here to stroke his epeen instead.

New skins are epic, i need that leona skin.

Wtf support viktor? I dont understand that at all. His W is useful, thats it. His damage will scale off pretty damn quickly after early game and he'll just be fuckin useless because he offers literally zero apart from his W.

As far as base damage goes, Viktor is on par with fiddle. an aoe slow/stun instead of a single target god fear, is arguable which is better. honestly the worst part about support viktor is wanting most of the stats from his yellow upgrade but preferring the blue one with regards to its effect.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 21 2013 09:41 GMT
#6397
Syndra is by far the best non-traditional support IMO. Mini Sona ult is too good. Plus a handy long range slow. Sure her ult loses a lot of punch but a 3 sphere ult still does a lot of damage to a squishy. Death is the best cc anyway.

Brand support also snowballs the living crap out of a lane. Brand early is very strong, but it does fall off late without the damage items and only single target cc. But his early damage is just insane and can give your adc a big advantage.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 21 2013 09:43 GMT
#6398
On August 21 2013 18:41 JazzVortical wrote:
Syndra is by far the best non-traditional support IMO. Mini Sona ult is too good. Plus a handy long range slow. Sure her ult loses a lot of punch but a 3 sphere ult still does a lot of damage to a squishy. Death is the best cc anyway.

Brand support also snowballs the living crap out of a lane. Brand early is very strong, but it does fall off late without the damage items and only single target cc. But his early damage is just insane and can give your adc a big advantage.

Fiddles disagreees.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
August 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#6399
Speaking of untraditional supports - I've had a fair bit of succes with Poppy support in the past. The first few levels might be rough unless their AD walks on top of you, but once you hit your lvl 3 timing you can often force a flash or a kill with e -> lvl2 q. The ability to completely negate tower advantage for 6 seconds is also massive if your AD can outpush their AD.

Vayne-Poppy combo is really silly if you manage to get a good position on the enemy.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 10:07:34
August 21 2013 09:59 GMT
#6400
If you want to play a character as support, the main things you need to look at are:

What do i gain from playing this character,
What is unique about this character,
What impact do i have on laning,
And finally, what can i do mid-late game with mostly health stacking.

Tryndamere, Amumu, Vi, Urgot, Ezreal, Galio, fiddle, lissandra, warwick all pass these four questions pretty damn well. But some of them require unusual play from your partner to be strong, similar to how Leona does. Making it difficult to use them in solo queue in addition to general trolling that you will receive for trying.
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