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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 08 2013 23:42 GMT
#7201
On July 09 2013 08:38 Slayer91 wrote:
knowing how to not trash the house you live in and possibly thinking its not worth it to rent a house if you are unlikely to stay in a league doesnt sound like lack of business experience rather than common sense

True, I was mostly thinking about the whole not getting anything in writing thing. They could use some common sense too yeah.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 23:53:38
July 08 2013 23:46 GMT
#7202
It would be better if the money/math was shown directly. It isn't. There's still some missing money involved in the whole Marn thing. Either way, it's way too messed up to gather correct information from either of the two posts(megazero or marn's). The first step would be to try to figure out how much money they(the team/business) started with. We don't even know that, and I doubt we ever will.(Very rough estimate is that there is 62500$(12500 x 5 starting players) + 25000$ he mentions Riot paid to them afterwards for expenses = 87500$. Would this be maximum earned for the team if everyone stayed together for that length of time? This figure probably gets screwed up depending on how it's paid out. At the VERY Least, there is a 25000$ afforded to housing/expenses)


The idea that the lease is under the player's names is especially scary. Good luck with that stuff.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 08 2013 23:51 GMT
#7203
On July 09 2013 08:42 ReketSomething wrote:
So for whatever reason I started to play White 2 again and for the endgame (where I'm at) I need 3 pokemons for some endgame PvAI stuff. I realized I've never made a Salamence before in my whole pokemon career so for whatever reason I decided to make a Salamence.

What are 2 other pokemons I should have on my team? They don't need to be Jayce level OP but should be at least as strong as Nasus or Renekton and need to not be permabanned by Nintendo's random rules.

I personally would go with lucario and espeon. Those 3 have good type coverage and are very strong but not OP or anything.
Jaedong :D
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 08 2013 23:52 GMT
#7204
I don't think I'd want to know the money/math. Do we really want to do some fan-accounting?

Either way, that all sounds like stuff I'd do when I was 19. You really don't know anything about housing, contracts and all that. Better to learn now than never.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 08 2013 23:53 GMT
#7205
beach house in LA lol
GANDHISAUCE
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 23:55:16
July 08 2013 23:54 GMT
#7206
On July 09 2013 08:52 kainzero wrote:
I don't think I'd want to know the money/math. Do we really want to do some fan-accounting?

Either way, that all sounds like stuff I'd do when I was 19. You really don't know anything about housing, contracts and all that. Better to learn now than never.


Not really asking for fan-accounting. Just saying that plain numbers tell a story a lot better than people ever will.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 23:57:10
July 08 2013 23:55 GMT
#7207
Am I the only one surprised that they agreed to give Marn the same salary as the players, although he probably didn't work half as much as they did? Sure he says he "benched" himself from the team, but he's like gold league and with him they wouldn't have made it to the qualifier tournament even.

But I agree with y'all, renting that huge ass beach house to live the "baylife" was the most retarded team decision.

and holy moly, 100$/guide? Can't even imagine how much TSM guys or Doublelift get per guide, I'd probably plan it in my daily schedule (1 or 2 hours) to work on guides to pump out one at least every 3 days. Easy Moneyz.

Oh the irony that Ecco and heartbeat suddenly weren't too lazy to write guides after being knocked out of LCS.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 08 2013 23:55 GMT
#7208
On July 09 2013 08:20 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 08:15 Chrispy wrote:
On July 09 2013 07:43 gtrsrs wrote:
just staaaaaaaaaahp talking about the MRN salary thing
like literally 0 of you have any clue about any depth of what happened, all we have is an incoherent post by megazero "just as a warning" that also hints strongly that he was fucked by marn. marn is one of the few league people i actively dislike, but there's no reason any discussion regarding the team or their salary, by people who know nothing about any of it, should be taking place here.


Hmm, the fact that you do not condone pitchforks and witch hunts is highly suspicious. Is the Velocity manager putting money into his own pockets too? Is the whole system corrupt? Quick, make a Reddit post!

He's probably sour about the whole Maplestreet thing on reddit. Not that I blame him.

Teach me how to Reddit so I can find what you're talking about. It sounds delicious.
WiseBagus
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada452 Posts
July 08 2013 23:56 GMT
#7209
On July 09 2013 05:12 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 23:30 kongoline wrote:
on high elo NA streams vayne seems to be common ban atm, whats up with that did she become op after botrk + s3 changes?


Vayne is my favorite champion, and the reason I play her so much is because machine gun Vayne is hilarious, and really strong, and every champion that would make you sad as a different ADC just melts. Furthermore, condemn is overpowered, her ult is overpowered, her Q is cool, her W is overpowered.
Also, people realized Caitlyn doesn't counter Vayne as hard as they thought because if your support can initiate, you will never lose a fight to Caitlyn, especially after 6. Draven still hardbops her though. Her laning also isn't bad like a lot of people thought. If you can make it to level 3, Vayne has strong laning.

edit: How do I have 500 posts already. I'm a nerd

What is Machine Gun Vayne and when should I build it? Vayne is my go-to adc but building the same thing over and over is really boring.
"When you come at the King, you best not miss"
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 08 2013 23:57 GMT
#7210
This is just me but I would not have signed on to a 5000k a month mansion without a very stable source of income at the age of 19.
And if I did, I certainly would not have lost my fucking deposit lol.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
July 08 2013 23:59 GMT
#7211
On July 09 2013 08:53 De4ngus wrote:
beach house in LA lol

livin da esports thug life and swaggin with all that Riot cash
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
July 08 2013 23:59 GMT
#7212
On July 09 2013 08:55 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 08:20 HazMat wrote:
On July 09 2013 08:15 Chrispy wrote:
On July 09 2013 07:43 gtrsrs wrote:
just staaaaaaaaaahp talking about the MRN salary thing
like literally 0 of you have any clue about any depth of what happened, all we have is an incoherent post by megazero "just as a warning" that also hints strongly that he was fucked by marn. marn is one of the few league people i actively dislike, but there's no reason any discussion regarding the team or their salary, by people who know nothing about any of it, should be taking place here.


Hmm, the fact that you do not condone pitchforks and witch hunts is highly suspicious. Is the Velocity manager putting money into his own pockets too? Is the whole system corrupt? Quick, make a Reddit post!

He's probably sour about the whole Maplestreet thing on reddit. Not that I blame him.

Teach me how to Reddit so I can find what you're talking about. It sounds delicious.


Its actually kinda sad, Reddit is constantly shitting pretty intensely on VES and talking about how they dont deserve to be in the LCS. Maplestreet had enough after last week's games and posted some, hm, choice words about reddit and the community which he sebsequently removed before posting this blog post shortly after.

http://maplestreetlol.blogspot.ca/2013/07/the-dream-and-my-inability-of-choosing.html
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 09 2013 00:00 GMT
#7213
On July 09 2013 08:56 WiseBagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 05:12 RagequitBM wrote:
On July 08 2013 23:30 kongoline wrote:
on high elo NA streams vayne seems to be common ban atm, whats up with that did she become op after botrk + s3 changes?


Vayne is my favorite champion, and the reason I play her so much is because machine gun Vayne is hilarious, and really strong, and every champion that would make you sad as a different ADC just melts. Furthermore, condemn is overpowered, her ult is overpowered, her Q is cool, her W is overpowered.
Also, people realized Caitlyn doesn't counter Vayne as hard as they thought because if your support can initiate, you will never lose a fight to Caitlyn, especially after 6. Draven still hardbops her though. Her laning also isn't bad like a lot of people thought. If you can make it to level 3, Vayne has strong laning.

edit: How do I have 500 posts already. I'm a nerd

What is Machine Gun Vayne and when should I build it? Vayne is my go-to adc but building the same thing over and over is really boring.

Botrk -> PD/Shiv
Jaedong :D
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 09 2013 00:01 GMT
#7214
On July 09 2013 08:55 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 08:20 HazMat wrote:
On July 09 2013 08:15 Chrispy wrote:
On July 09 2013 07:43 gtrsrs wrote:
just staaaaaaaaaahp talking about the MRN salary thing
like literally 0 of you have any clue about any depth of what happened, all we have is an incoherent post by megazero "just as a warning" that also hints strongly that he was fucked by marn. marn is one of the few league people i actively dislike, but there's no reason any discussion regarding the team or their salary, by people who know nothing about any of it, should be taking place here.


Hmm, the fact that you do not condone pitchforks and witch hunts is highly suspicious. Is the Velocity manager putting money into his own pockets too? Is the whole system corrupt? Quick, make a Reddit post!

He's probably sour about the whole Maplestreet thing on reddit. Not that I blame him.

Teach me how to Reddit so I can find what you're talking about. It sounds delicious.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ho3t9/can_we_stop_the_velocity_bashing/caw8vx3

It was a bit sad, mostly because people started bringing up how Reddit helped VES find a gaming house and what not. He just made a mistake of treating Reddit as a single entity rather than a huge community made up of polar personalities and voices. The hate that can be on that site is unreal, and it's unfortunate that players have to learn to get used to it. Being in the spotlight is OP.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 00:02:26
July 09 2013 00:01 GMT
#7215
On July 09 2013 08:42 ReketSomething wrote:
So for whatever reason I started to play White 2 again and for the endgame (where I'm at) I need 3 pokemons for some endgame PvAI stuff. I realized I've never made a Salamence before in my whole pokemon career so for whatever reason I decided to make a Salamence.

What are 2 other pokemons I should have on my team? They don't need to be Jayce level OP but should be at least as strong as Nasus or Renekton and need to not be permabanned by Nintendo's random rules.

What's the entire team? I can't really say anything if I don't know what else is going with the Salamence lol. Also what are Salamence's specs? Mixmence? Physical? ChoiceSpecsDracoMeteor? And is this for Battle Subway or Elite 4/World Tournament grinding or what?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 00:08:52
July 09 2013 00:04 GMT
#7216
On July 09 2013 08:51 Neverhood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 08:42 ReketSomething wrote:
So for whatever reason I started to play White 2 again and for the endgame (where I'm at) I need 3 pokemons for some endgame PvAI stuff. I realized I've never made a Salamence before in my whole pokemon career so for whatever reason I decided to make a Salamence.

What are 2 other pokemons I should have on my team? They don't need to be Jayce level OP but should be at least as strong as Nasus or Renekton and need to not be permabanned by Nintendo's random rules.

I personally would go with lucario and espeon. Those 3 have good type coverage and are very strong but not OP or anything.


Is espeon good against AI? I always thought that espeon would be more suited to competetive, or singles 6, and guessing battles. Espeon is pretty cute though.

On July 09 2013 09:01 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 08:42 ReketSomething wrote:
So for whatever reason I started to play White 2 again and for the endgame (where I'm at) I need 3 pokemons for some endgame PvAI stuff. I realized I've never made a Salamence before in my whole pokemon career so for whatever reason I decided to make a Salamence.

What are 2 other pokemons I should have on my team? They don't need to be Jayce level OP but should be at least as strong as Nasus or Renekton and need to not be permabanned by Nintendo's random rules.

What's the entire team? I can't really say anything if I don't know what else is going with the Salamence lol. Also what are Salamence's specs? Mixmence? Physical? ChoiceSpecsDracoMeteor? And is this for Battle Subway or Elite 4/World Tournament grinding or what?


Probably going to be choice scarf physical mence or dd mence. This is for Battle Subway/World tournament crap, or whatever is for the three man single battle thing. It would also be used for battling people online possibly and most definitely for trashing little kids that think they are good at pokemons (although honestly with just salamence i could beat all 3 because they are worse than ai). Short answer is in nintendos singles 3 thing. All I know is that I want a fuckin Salamence. I've made themed teams in the past and now I just want random pokemons.
Jaedong :3
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 09 2013 00:05 GMT
#7217
Pokemon sucks, help me construct a relevant Yugioh deck for 2013.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk, im a god at Yugioh, my Exodia deck beats all.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
July 09 2013 00:05 GMT
#7218
On July 09 2013 09:05 HazMat wrote:
Pokemon sucks, help me construct a relevant Yugioh deck for 2013.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk, im a god at Yugioh, my Exodia deck beats all.


Do you believe in the heart of the cards?
Jaedong :3
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
July 09 2013 00:05 GMT
#7219
Streaming atm.

http://www.twitch.tv/hiicantpk
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
July 09 2013 00:05 GMT
#7220
The amount of E-sports drama in LoL is amazing. I love reading through all the drama. <3
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