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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 08:25:07
June 26 2013 08:14 GMT
#4181
On June 26 2013 17:06 FinestHour wrote:
DRAVEN ON FREE WEEK
when you play him are you just supposed to be a humongous asshole at level 1 and just be super aggro with axes to get ahead


Short answer: yes.

Long answer: Axes all day, every day. Bully the *** out of your opponent until they rage quit because Draven is so OP in early game.

On June 26 2013 16:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Try and keep a level head; even after a massive losing streak. Streaks are just bound to happen, it's the nature of randomness. Don't be too hasty to try and change what you're doing.

As far a bot lane AP's are you looking at 1v2 botlane as an AP? or dual lane with a support of sorts?
The best ones with supports are ones that scale insanely well with items, or specific item timings. Cass/Ryze are pretty good choices.


I know I should keep a level head, it's just frustrating that the game right now is so focused on ADC doing well in early game and not about your team as a whole. Unless mid and top win their lanes in a very convincing fashion, by the time I get into mid game and the first few team fights I just feel so useless as ADC because I'm not doing enough damage, or I have no CC/AoE abilities outside of maybe my ult so that a couple of enemy champs escape with slivers of HP and I can't chase because I'm low on HP, out of mana, everything's on CD, or I'm dead. I know I need to get better with my CS (I tend to go 50-60% when lane breaks even, sub 40% when I lose lane, 65-75% CS when I win in lane).

I'm talking about a "normal" team composition of solo top, solo mid, jungle, and 2 champs bot, one normally being ADC, the other being support. I play with friends and generally speaking we all play specific roles: one person jungles (normally on Diana), another goes mid (usually on Katarina or Ahri), a third goes support (usually Thresh), with the last two people (myself and another friend) swapping between top and bottom (the 4th friend is new to LoL, we're trying to find champs she'd enjoy playing, and usually we stick her top lane). Whenever I go top I usually go Riven, and for bot I go Ezreal, build up to BT then go into Blue Ezreal build, usually going Muramana > Iceborn > LW > BotrK, with CDR shoes and masteries.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 08:15:08
June 26 2013 08:14 GMT
#4182
On June 26 2013 16:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 16:03 Lylat wrote:
On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:
On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782

"Hello everyone.

As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave.

I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down."

So did he left or is he still a sub?

Ah nvm the story from defecio:

Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it.

Wow.. Am I the only one finding this extremely unprofessional ?
I mean, ok he wants to play with his friend that's nice and all but why would you leave a pro team, lose your salary, etc... ? I understand why you would do that in an amateur team but in a professional one I really don't.
I guess he's young and can rely on his parents money ?

Sometimes for people its not worth playing the game if they're not playing with their friends. He probably felt his motivation to play wouldn't exist without playing with his friend; and eventually would cause the team to be worse.
I have no real issues with it.

I believe this is far too naive. It's a job. Just because your specific friend doesn't work in the same place as you, would you quit? People move to completely new cities for jobs. If you just want the perfect work situation all your life you will end up unemployed.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 08:51:24
June 26 2013 08:51 GMT
#4183
On June 26 2013 17:14 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 16:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 26 2013 16:03 Lylat wrote:
On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:
On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782

"Hello everyone.

As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave.

I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down."

So did he left or is he still a sub?

Ah nvm the story from defecio:

Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it.

Wow.. Am I the only one finding this extremely unprofessional ?
I mean, ok he wants to play with his friend that's nice and all but why would you leave a pro team, lose your salary, etc... ? I understand why you would do that in an amateur team but in a professional one I really don't.
I guess he's young and can rely on his parents money ?

Sometimes for people its not worth playing the game if they're not playing with their friends. He probably felt his motivation to play wouldn't exist without playing with his friend; and eventually would cause the team to be worse.
I have no real issues with it.

I believe this is far too naive. It's a job. Just because your specific friend doesn't work in the same place as you, would you quit? People move to completely new cities for jobs. If you just want the perfect work situation all your life you will end up unemployed.

But it's his choice. I don't know why you guys even berate him for it? Sure it might not be the choice you would make; but he's still young; and no one wants to work a job they hate. If the games lost the fun for you; cuz your friend ain't playing it. So be it.
liftlift > tsm
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 09:09:37
June 26 2013 09:07 GMT
#4184
I don't really understand where people are getting so upset over his lack of profesionalism. He's a kid still. He was being paid for his hobby. If you don't want to play anymore without your friend, that's understandable, after all; League of Legends is a game first. Getting paid for playing it is a sweet deal for most people, he just decided it wasn't as fun.

I used to work at a bookstore with a friend, once he quit, I quit too. It just wasn't as fun as it used to be, and the only reason I kept working there was for the discount. I found a new job at a pizza place, and I'm having a blast even without any friends working there. I imagine it's a similar story with him.

I don't think saying he wants "perfect working conditions" is fair. He just doesn't want to play a game without his friends. Maybe he wants to go to school, and get a sustainable career now. He had his fun, progaming is a once in a lifetime experience, and I'm sure he took a lot out of it. He can move on now.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 26 2013 09:33 GMT
#4185
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=1887

I'll just leave this here
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
June 26 2013 09:36 GMT
#4186
Some jobs are only worth it for factors outside of salary.

Benefits convince people to stay in a job they dislike.

Benfits might be healthcare, paid holidays, nice gym at work, or this might blow your mind...a friendly working environment. Enjoyment and fringe benefits mean a lot at work.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 09:39:06
June 26 2013 09:36 GMT
#4187
^ that's one hell of a train on that Janna cosplay.

On June 26 2013 13:11 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 12:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 26 2013 12:29 Craton wrote:
Gold lead is only of minor importance in the grand scheme of things. Up 20k and lose one team fight at lategame? You lose. Lose a teamfight that would result in the end of game and still up 100g? Surrendering wouldn't have mattered, just saved a few seconds.

gold lead still a pretty powerful indicator all the way up til beginning of lategame. Not everyone throws as hard as dig late game.

Do you actually think Dig throws harder than solo queue teams?

I hope not.

Most throws I see in soloQ are "passive", like people failing to ward an objective properly and having to concede it, or trying to farm bot with the inner tower down and no vision, getting caught, or while the enemy team rushes top all of a sudden and gets the inhib before your ally can react.
Dignitas on the other hand has a bunch of "active" throws, by dubious decisions like Crumbzz' 1v5 initations a full screen away from his team, trying to finish off the nexus while low and enemy team respawning soon, the famous Nashor calls, etc.

So in that sense, they throw harder, yeah. :<

On June 26 2013 09:36 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:
On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782

"Hello everyone.

As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave.

I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down."

So did he left or is he still a sub?

Ah nvm the story from defecio:

Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it.

This is very interesting. If Svenskeren is actually leaving NiP along with NeeGodbro, then NiP need to keep TheTess no matter what in order to keep their points from the Spring LCS. Otherwise, they have to place top 4 (possibly even top 3) in the Summer LCS to qualify for the EU Regionals for Worlds.

I got that system of points before the Spring Season, but how does that work now? I thought the qualified teams were determined by play-off finishes (finishs?), the results from the spring season carry over too?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 26 2013 09:57 GMT
#4188
On June 26 2013 18:33 Chexx wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=1887

I'll just leave this here

didn't doublelift date her? and I wonder if he still does. lucky bastard.
liftlift > tsm
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 26 2013 10:16 GMT
#4189
To my knowledge they both denied it.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 11:54:26
June 26 2013 11:04 GMT
#4190
Morgana has 425 range, I have 525, she binds me, I right-click her, she autos me but I don't retaliate. I don't understand. @_@

Middle of the day, premade of 4 against a team with no premades. Wut? ._. In the middle of the night I'd get it, but at 2 PM?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 26 2013 11:35 GMT
#4191
On June 26 2013 13:13 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 04:21 XaCez wrote:
Whenever somebody mentions the blue build I always get Eiffel 65's Blue stuck in my head.


gah got stuck in my head, and had to youtube it to listen again. blue da ba dee da ba dieeeeee. Make that the official blue build theme song. So good.

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 10:51 Letmelose wrote:
Does anyone have further information on Freeze, the new AD carry for NiP? I've read that Edward thinks very highly of him, but I've never heard of him before, and would like to watch some of his games.


Paging teh Scip. Scip mentioned that he is on the czech national team alongside him?

Random info about Freeze:
Super trolly but genuinely funny
Doesn't remember his ESL account password (never ever) so we have to send him all the game codes
Great positioning in teamfights, doesn't die if the rest of the team doesn't fuck up (and often even if we do) but always gets good shots in
Don't know about his laning, no time to watch that shit LOL
About 4 ? months ago Freeze and Kazmitch (probably the best czech player, support) were in 1 team together: eXtatus. In one of the bigger czech only tournaments, PragoFFest, they ended up being very decisively dead last.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
June 26 2013 11:37 GMT
#4192
On June 26 2013 18:33 Chexx wrote:
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=1887

I'll just leave this here

That's a good way to start my mourning Can we get vayne heartseeker next but I don't think it could top that Janna
Moar banelings less qq
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
June 26 2013 11:45 GMT
#4193
inSec changes his position, and becomes a top-laner.



Holy shit.
TL+ Member
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 26 2013 11:49 GMT
#4194
On June 26 2013 20:45 Letmelose wrote:
inSec changes his position, and becomes a top-laner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRUvlJXgKPE

Holy shit.


Do you have source on this? Assume you right regardless I guess. That makes a lot of sense since his jungle style was basically to become a top laner.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 26 2013 11:56 GMT
#4195
On June 26 2013 20:49 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 20:45 Letmelose wrote:
inSec changes his position, and becomes a top-laner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRUvlJXgKPE

Holy shit.


Do you have source on this? Assume you right regardless I guess. That makes a lot of sense since his jungle style was basically to become a top laner.


Did you... watch the video?

o_o
Retvrn to Forvms
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 26 2013 11:57 GMT
#4196
On June 26 2013 17:14 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 16:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 26 2013 16:03 Lylat wrote:
On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:
On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782

"Hello everyone.

As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave.

I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down."

So did he left or is he still a sub?

Ah nvm the story from defecio:

Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it.

Wow.. Am I the only one finding this extremely unprofessional ?
I mean, ok he wants to play with his friend that's nice and all but why would you leave a pro team, lose your salary, etc... ? I understand why you would do that in an amateur team but in a professional one I really don't.
I guess he's young and can rely on his parents money ?

Sometimes for people its not worth playing the game if they're not playing with their friends. He probably felt his motivation to play wouldn't exist without playing with his friend; and eventually would cause the team to be worse.
I have no real issues with it.

I believe this is far too naive. It's a job. Just because your specific friend doesn't work in the same place as you, would you quit? People move to completely new cities for jobs. If you just want the perfect work situation all your life you will end up unemployed.

Your job is not your life and just because something is desirable for many people does not mean that it is right for you. I think he's got his head in a better spot than both of you to be able to walk away from things like this for reasons meaningful to him.

And for whoever it was saying that this was unprofessional, that's such a subjective way of saying you disagree with his decision. How is it unprofessional to step down from a position that you don't want to be in? If anything, that's extremely professional. Not stepping down when you want to just because you are employed is called being a person who doesn't make decisions for themselves in my book. Do you seriously think that other people's expectations should run your life? And even if you do, your argument is "he is employed and therefore he should not quit."

Like, seriously?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 26 2013 11:59 GMT
#4197
On June 26 2013 20:45 Letmelose wrote:
inSec changes his position, and becomes a top-laner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRUvlJXgKPE

Holy shit.

such a bad decision.

i dont think he has chance against players like flame, shy, expression, reapered etc.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 26 2013 12:03 GMT
#4198
On June 26 2013 20:45 Letmelose wrote:
inSec changes his position, and becomes a top-laner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRUvlJXgKPE

Holy shit.

I am just going to stop trying to understand all the changes that are happening in Korea, my brain cannot handle it.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 26 2013 12:03 GMT
#4199
On June 26 2013 20:56 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 20:49 Numy wrote:
On June 26 2013 20:45 Letmelose wrote:
inSec changes his position, and becomes a top-laner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRUvlJXgKPE

Holy shit.


Do you have source on this? Assume you right regardless I guess. That makes a lot of sense since his jungle style was basically to become a top laner.


Did you... watch the video?

o_o


No youtube during the day hardly works. Guess it's a joke then
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 26 2013 12:08 GMT
#4200
On June 26 2013 20:45 Letmelose wrote:
inSec changes his position, and becomes a top-laner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRUvlJXgKPE

Holy shit.


Lee Sin toplane with full farm oh yeah baby
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