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On June 26 2013 12:29 Craton wrote:
Gold lead is only of minor importance in the grand scheme of things. Up 20k and lose one team fight at lategame? You lose. Lose a teamfight that would result in the end of game and still up 100g? Surrendering wouldn't have mattered, just saved a few seconds.
gold lead still a pretty powerful indicator all the way up til beginning of lategame. Not everyone throws as hard as dig late game.
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On June 26 2013 12:16 justiceknight wrote:seriously riot need to stop this LCS long term tournament crap, we have dreamhack and MLG and i wish for cross region competition like IPL5 but with these big event and big teams not playing for glory at that event seems stupid
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Asian_Indoor-Martial_Arts_Games_2013
Fear not. 4th Asian Indoor and Martial Arts Games is coming soon.
Team WE: LPL Spring Season Play-Offs 4th place
Azubu Taipei Snipers: Currently TeSL 1st place
KT Rolster Bullets: NLB Spring Season 2nd place
Saigon Jokers: GPL Spring Season 4th place, currently GPL Summer Season 4th place
Four teams from four different regions (since TW and SEA had separate qualifications for S2 World Championships), with all four teams curiously being in a relatively reasonable position to represent their region in the S3 World Championship, but not being certain lock-ins by any means.
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On June 26 2013 12:48 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 12:29 Craton wrote:
Gold lead is only of minor importance in the grand scheme of things. Up 20k and lose one team fight at lategame? You lose. Lose a teamfight that would result in the end of game and still up 100g? Surrendering wouldn't have mattered, just saved a few seconds. gold lead still a pretty powerful indicator all the way up til beginning of lategame. Not everyone throws as hard as dig late game.
Do you actually think Dig throws harder than solo queue teams?
I hope not.
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On June 26 2013 04:21 XaCez wrote:
Whenever somebody mentions the blue build I always get Eiffel 65's Blue stuck in my head.
gah got stuck in my head, and had to youtube it to listen again. blue da ba dee da ba dieeeeee. Make that the official blue build theme song. So good.
On June 26 2013 10:51 Letmelose wrote:
Does anyone have further information on Freeze, the new AD carry for NiP? I've read that Edward thinks very highly of him, but I've never heard of him before, and would like to watch some of his games.
Paging teh Scip. Scip mentioned that he is on the czech national team alongside him?
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On June 26 2013 10:54 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 10:49 Frolossus wrote:On June 26 2013 10:47 overt wrote:
IE is just too good on some ADCs to delay with a BortK imo. Lifesteal quints and just playing smart make it really easy for Caitlyn, Ashe, or Tristana to just rush IE. It actually makes me kind of angry when I see a Cait or Trist on my team or the enemy team that builds BT or BotrK as first item as I don't feel it's optimal or takes advantage of their strengths at all.
Most of the other ADCs in the game typically like BT more than BortK because they have crazy good AD scaling. If everyone wasn't playing blue Ez always I could see BortK being a solid first item on him since it adds to his chasing and kiting potential. BortK is decent on Vayne too imo because you get free AD from her ult and she scales really well with just straight AS not to mention the healing you get from BortK active might make up for the lack of lifesteal you don't have from rushing BT.
I think BortK is probably the best item to get first if you're behind in bot lane (like if you or your support have fed a few kills or you can't CS for some reason). But I think it's generally optimal to go IE or BT first even if it means an awkward back. Frankly though once you get good at ADC you shouldn't need to back if you can't afford to buy items unless something crazy is going on like ganks and stuff. Even in those situations you can typically pick up boots or something. wouldn't BoRtK scale harder on champs with a natural AS steroid? Bork works on 2 champs:kog and vayne(and honestly ie is better in some situations for kog).They need the extra peeling tool and have an ability that scales with attack speed.Bork is a good 1 damage item and you shouldn't get it on an ad unless the enemy has someone with 1 who will rape you if you don't have one(or at least a cutlass).I really don't understand people who get it first on any other ad.
Not really. BORK is perfectly fine on any ADC that could use a boost in the Kite/Burst department, and pretty much ALL AD carries like to kite. You don't usually want it on ADCs like Graves where you want to abuse front-loaded ability damage, though. It's great on Tristana, Varus, and Twitch, all of whom have back-loaded burst damage (autoattack you low, then throw abilities out that finish you off.) This back-loaded burst damage of carries like these increases the value of the %Current HP damage on-hit (because when the enemy gets low, where the %current HP isn't useful anymore, you're using your burst combo to execute them - Trist going 1-E-R, Twitch Expunging, Varus proccing his full blight stack).
The kite/peel active is great on all the carries, all of them. No carry in the game doesn't like it. The question is whether the rest of the package is useful.
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On June 26 2013 13:11 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 12:48 wei2coolman wrote:On June 26 2013 12:29 Craton wrote:
Gold lead is only of minor importance in the grand scheme of things. Up 20k and lose one team fight at lategame? You lose. Lose a teamfight that would result in the end of game and still up 100g? Surrendering wouldn't have mattered, just saved a few seconds. gold lead still a pretty powerful indicator all the way up til beginning of lategame. Not everyone throws as hard as dig late game. Do you actually think Dig throws harder than solo queue teams? I hope not.
Dat super week doe....
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On June 26 2013 13:11 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 12:48 wei2coolman wrote:On June 26 2013 12:29 Craton wrote:
Gold lead is only of minor importance in the grand scheme of things. Up 20k and lose one team fight at lategame? You lose. Lose a teamfight that would result in the end of game and still up 100g? Surrendering wouldn't have mattered, just saved a few seconds. gold lead still a pretty powerful indicator all the way up til beginning of lategame. Not everyone throws as hard as dig late game. Do you actually think Dig throws harder than solo queue teams? I hope not.
Solo que teams have pretty hilarious throws. Have won multiple games after being down like 2-25 just because they do something like going to baron into a fiddle ult
About BotRK, it's amazing on Fiora and she kills everything with it. I don't think it's that good on many ADCs because they scale so much better with crit - Only if you need it to kite against a certain champion, especially if the enemy has a diver top that builds BotRK or something.
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On June 26 2013 14:07 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 13:11 Zdrastochye wrote:On June 26 2013 12:48 wei2coolman wrote:On June 26 2013 12:29 Craton wrote:
Gold lead is only of minor importance in the grand scheme of things. Up 20k and lose one team fight at lategame? You lose. Lose a teamfight that would result in the end of game and still up 100g? Surrendering wouldn't have mattered, just saved a few seconds. gold lead still a pretty powerful indicator all the way up til beginning of lategame. Not everyone throws as hard as dig late game. Do you actually think Dig throws harder than solo queue teams? I hope not. Solo que teams have pretty hilarious throws. Have won multiple games after being down like 2-25 just because they do something like going to baron into a fiddle ult About BotRK, it's amazing on Fiora and she kills everything with it. I don't think it's that good on many ADCs because they scale so much better with crit - Only if you need it to kite against a certain champion, especially if the enemy has a diver top that builds BotRK or something.
BOTRK much better soloqueue ADC item than pro ADC item; the play making ability of BotRK is pretty damn strong in solo queue.
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On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782"Hello everyone. As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave. I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down." So did he left or is he still a sub? Ah nvm the story from defecio: Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it.
Wow.. Am I the only one finding this extremely unprofessional ?
I mean, ok he wants to play with his friend that's nice and all but why would you leave a pro team, lose your salary, etc... ? I understand why you would do that in an amateur team but in a professional one I really don't.
I guess he's young and can rely on his parents money ?
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On June 26 2013 07:31 Gahlo wrote:NiP roster changes: https://www.facebook.com/NipGamingIn: Malunoo(jungle), Freeze(AD), extinkt(Top) Out(as subs): NeeGodBro, TheTess, Svenskeren
Darn, cannot believe I missed these. The changes should be very good for NiP, especially their new solotop.
As for Svenskeren's decision and professionality, I really do agree that it's quite unprofessional. Cannot really understand but hrm, whatever floats his boat.
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After a rough day of losing a lot, I'm re-evaluating who I play, and how I play in bot lane. I used to think I was decent at ADC, but the more I play it the more I feel useless; it's either I win lane hardcore, lose it hardcore (Draven says "fuck you" to any non-Draven, non-CC champ), or break even and then usually end up losing in team fights. The champ I play most bot lane is Ezreal, but I'm also pretty good with Caitlyn, Vayne, and Varus in bot lane (whenever they go free for the week).
Looking for some help with evaulating ADC champs basically, and wondering if it's possible a champ normally played in mid lane can be played in bot lane as a APC bot.
So far, the ADC champs I'm looking at for bot lane are: Ezreal, Draven, Varus, Graves, Tristana, Caitlyn, Vayne.
The champs I'm looking at that normally go mid but might (in theory) work in bot lane are: Karma, Lux, Ryze, Lissandra, Brand, Syndra.
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On June 26 2013 16:03 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782"Hello everyone. As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave. I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down." So did he left or is he still a sub? Ah nvm the story from defecio: Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it. Wow.. Am I the only one finding this extremely unprofessional ? I mean, ok he wants to play with his friend that's nice and all but why would you leave a pro team, lose your salary, etc... ? I understand why you would do that in an amateur team but in a professional one I really don't. I guess he's young and can rely on his parents money ?
Sometimes for people its not worth playing the game if they're not playing with their friends. He probably felt his motivation to play wouldn't exist without playing with his friend; and eventually would cause the team to be worse.
I have no real issues with it.
On June 26 2013 16:39 Kinie wrote:
After a rough day of losing a lot, I'm re-evaluating who I play, and how I play in bot lane. I used to think I was decent at ADC, but the more I play it the more I feel useless; it's either I win lane hardcore, lose it hardcore (Draven says "fuck you" to any non-Draven, non-CC champ), or break even and then usually end up losing in team fights. The champ I play most bot lane is Ezreal, but I'm also pretty good with Caitlyn, Vayne, and Varus in bot lane (whenever they go free for the week).
Looking for some help with evaulating ADC champs basically, and wondering if it's possible a champ normally played in mid lane can be played in bot lane as a APC bot.
So far, the ADC champs I'm looking at for bot lane are: Ezreal, Draven, Varus, Graves, Tristana, Caitlyn, Vayne.
The champs I'm looking at that normally go mid but might (in theory) work in bot lane are: Karma, Lux, Ryze, Lissandra, Brand, Syndra.
Try and keep a level head; even after a massive losing streak. Streaks are just bound to happen, it's the nature of randomness. Don't be too hasty to try and change what you're doing.
As far a bot lane AP's are you looking at 1v2 botlane as an AP? or dual lane with a support of sorts?
The best ones with supports are ones that scale insanely well with items, or specific item timings. Cass/Ryze are pretty good choices.
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On June 26 2013 16:39 Kinie wrote:
After a rough day of losing a lot, I'm re-evaluating who I play, and how I play in bot lane. I used to think I was decent at ADC, but the more I play it the more I feel useless; it's either I win lane hardcore, lose it hardcore (Draven says "fuck you" to any non-Draven, non-CC champ), or break even and then usually end up losing in team fights. The champ I play most bot lane is Ezreal, but I'm also pretty good with Caitlyn, Vayne, and Varus in bot lane (whenever they go free for the week).
Looking for some help with evaulating ADC champs basically, and wondering if it's possible a champ normally played in mid lane can be played in bot lane as a APC bot.
So far, the ADC champs I'm looking at for bot lane are: Ezreal, Draven, Varus, Graves, Tristana, Caitlyn, Vayne.
The champs I'm looking at that normally go mid but might (in theory) work in bot lane are: Karma, Lux, Ryze, Lissandra, Brand, Syndra.
I think playing Trist was the best training for me. She is safe and I feel like if all you do is play smart and focus on positioning in teamfights and constantly be attacking something you will be doing your job and likely carrying your team. At my rating (S1) it seems like most ADCs on my team really lack basic positioning knowledge and they are just useless even if they win lane phase.
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On June 26 2013 16:50 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 16:03 Lylat wrote:On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782"Hello everyone. As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave. I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down." So did he left or is he still a sub? Ah nvm the story from defecio: Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it. Wow.. Am I the only one finding this extremely unprofessional ? I mean, ok he wants to play with his friend that's nice and all but why would you leave a pro team, lose your salary, etc... ? I understand why you would do that in an amateur team but in a professional one I really don't. I guess he's young and can rely on his parents money ? Sometimes for people its not worth playing the game if they're not playing with their friends. He probably felt his motivation to play wouldn't exist without playing with his friend; and eventually would cause the team to be worse. I have no real issues with it.
Maybe he wants to take his talents to South Beach.
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On June 26 2013 16:59 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 16:50 wei2coolman wrote:On June 26 2013 16:03 Lylat wrote:On June 26 2013 09:07 ExoFun wrote:On June 26 2013 09:04 ExoFun wrote:https://www.facebook.com/Svenskeren.LoL/posts/468931186534782"Hello everyone. As you all have read then I have decided to step down. I have loved my time together with the guys, but I do not wish to keep committing myself 100 % to the team without NeeGodbro. I understand NeeGodbro had to be benched at this point, and there is no hard feelings between me and NiP, but I have made my decision. Im sorry if the NiP statement confused you, it failed to mention the most important part about my decision to leave. I hope people respect my decision and dont start hating on my former team, I decided MYSELF to step down." So did he left or is he still a sub? Ah nvm the story from defecio: Svenskeren left the starting line-up HIMSELF due to NeeGodbro getting benched. He wants to play with NeeGodbro and didnt want to commit 100 % to the team unless NeeGodbro was on it. Wow.. Am I the only one finding this extremely unprofessional ? I mean, ok he wants to play with his friend that's nice and all but why would you leave a pro team, lose your salary, etc... ? I understand why you would do that in an amateur team but in a professional one I really don't. I guess he's young and can rely on his parents money ? Sometimes for people its not worth playing the game if they're not playing with their friends. He probably felt his motivation to play wouldn't exist without playing with his friend; and eventually would cause the team to be worse. I have no real issues with it. Maybe he wants to take his talents to South Beach.
I'm just glad he didn't waste an hour of our time with it.
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DRAVEN ON FREE WEEK
when you play him are you just supposed to be a humongous asshole at level 1 and just be super aggro with axes to get ahead
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Darn... getting bug splatted everytime I try to get into dis game. x_x
RIP team mates, sorry.
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Fuck I hate laning against afk farmers. They don't even try to trade, they just do their best to act like I wasn't even in the lane.
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