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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 18 2013 13:30 GMT
#841
Can someone give me CS timers for mid / top / ADC?

Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level.

TY.
Useless wet fish.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 18 2013 13:33 GMT
#842
On May 18 2013 22:30 Capped wrote:
Can someone give me CS timers for mid / top / ADC?

Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level.

TY.



the value of CS is equivalent to the game timer,eg: 10 min = 100 cs, 20min = 200cs.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 18 2013 13:33 GMT
#843
On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!)

i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics?

thanks! (you can also PM me)

play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking.


thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.
cool beans
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 18 2013 13:36 GMT
#844
At the above, What are the mechanics of LoL anyway? Isnt it just CSing ? After that it comes down to itemisation, decision making and positioning right? None of those are mechanics really.
Useless wet fish.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 18 2013 13:37 GMT
#845
On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!)

i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics?

thanks! (you can also PM me)

play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking.


thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.


You could try playing games to increase your reaction time/mouse precision/multitask.By multitask I mean just notice everything in fights and look at minimap while in lane.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 18 2013 13:38 GMT
#846
On May 18 2013 22:33 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:30 Capped wrote:
Can someone give me CS timers for mid / top / ADC?

Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level.

TY.



the value of CS is equivalent to the game timer,eg: 10 min = 100 cs, 20min = 200cs.

Not entirely accurate, 100 at 10min is far better than 200 at 20min. It also completely depends on the game.

I'd say you should aim for something like 85 at 10min, 200 at 20min, 330 at 30min. This isn't perfect but it's still pretty good. If you get total freefarm and there's no kills or ganks you should be around 100 minions at 10min though.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 13:42:05
May 18 2013 13:39 GMT
#847
On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!)

i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics?

thanks! (you can also PM me)

play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking.


thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.


what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O
EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really
Chun-li since ST
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 18 2013 13:40 GMT
#848
Looked up the CS thing, its like max 108 at 10 mins, double that at 20, so 216.

Cool. Something to work on i guess, my laning sucks compared to my jungle / support.
Useless wet fish.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 18 2013 13:40 GMT
#849
On May 18 2013 22:38 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:33 justiceknight wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:30 Capped wrote:
Can someone give me CS timers for mid / top / ADC?

Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level.

TY.



the value of CS is equivalent to the game timer,eg: 10 min = 100 cs, 20min = 200cs.

Not entirely accurate, 100 at 10min is far better than 200 at 20min. It also completely depends on the game.

I'd say you should aim for something like 85 at 10min, 200 at 20min, 330 at 30min. This isn't perfect but it's still pretty good. If you get total freefarm and there's no kills or ganks you should be around 100 minions at 10min though.


This doesn't happen.You will back/die/get zoned etc.Unless you take jungle 100 at 10 minutes is very unreasonable.Mid is the only lane where people let you free farm.Bot most of the time is about denying the enemy ad rather than getting farmed atm anyway.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 18 2013 13:49 GMT
#850
On May 18 2013 22:37 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!)

i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics?

thanks! (you can also PM me)

play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking.


thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.


You could try playing games to increase your reaction time/mouse precision/multitask.By multitask I mean just notice everything in fights and look at minimap while in lane.


reaction time and mouse precision are probably what i'm looking for specifically. map awareness is also one of them, since i need to be able to channel my spare resources (time and concentration) to looking at the map and feeding information that will facilitate decisions for my team
cool beans
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 13:51:50
May 18 2013 13:50 GMT
#851
On May 18 2013 20:32 sob3k wrote:
If you cant salvage your elo you belong at that elo.

QFT.
I will also like to add; no matter how many games you already have played in ranked, the amount it takes to raise your current mmr by X amount of points, is still equivalent to very little number of past games. MMR gains are slow, but past grouping of plays doesn't affect your ability to gain mmr.
On May 18 2013 22:10 DonKey_ wrote:
Wow I just watched.

http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/state-of-the-league-lcs-na-all-stars-special-6408559/

Gotta say that interview has got me really hyped for all-stars now. I don't even like the state of the leagues, but that was a good interview.

NA seems pretty confident they will do well and I really want to see it happen. The more interesting thing though is how they all seem to be having more FUN in general with this team.

Can't wait to see Doublelift get hit by every single binding/spear/hook humanly possible.
liftlift > tsm
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 18 2013 13:54 GMT
#852
On May 18 2013 22:39 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!)

i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics?

thanks! (you can also PM me)

play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking.


thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.


what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O
EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really


i'm talking things like
(madlife lux). if we put something like this as the benchmark for 100%, you'll understand what i mean by mechanics. it's basically everything you are able to do with your character. landing skillshots, moving and spacing, weaving in autos between spellcasts, managing cooldowns, knowing spell ranges etcetc.
cool beans
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
May 18 2013 14:09 GMT
#853
On May 18 2013 22:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 20:32 sob3k wrote:
If you cant salvage your elo you belong at that elo.

QFT.
I will also like to add; no matter how many games you already have played in ranked, the amount it takes to raise your current mmr by X amount of points, is still equivalent to very little number of past games. MMR gains are slow, but past grouping of plays doesn't affect your ability to gain mmr.
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:10 DonKey_ wrote:
Wow I just watched.

http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/state-of-the-league-lcs-na-all-stars-special-6408559/

Gotta say that interview has got me really hyped for all-stars now. I don't even like the state of the leagues, but that was a good interview.

NA seems pretty confident they will do well and I really want to see it happen. The more interesting thing though is how they all seem to be having more FUN in general with this team.

Can't wait to see Doublelift get hit by every single binding/spear/hook humanly possible.

Maybe then people will be convinced he's not as good as he's hyped up to be?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 18 2013 14:10 GMT
#854
i find it weird ryze is almost perma banned on tw/korean streams but rarely picked/played on na/eu, personally i find him bat shit op late game and even if u feed early u can easily come back considering how stupid solo Q is sometimes
jliu
Profile Joined March 2011
282 Posts
May 18 2013 14:10 GMT
#855
After reading some of the Nami praise in this thread, I decided to buy her, and wow she is strong. Landing the Q (in silver) is pretty easy, and the cc duration is just so long.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 18 2013 14:26 GMT
#856
On May 18 2013 22:54 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:39 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!)

i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics?

thanks! (you can also PM me)

play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking.


thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.


what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O
EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really


i'm talking things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxluSDNsL7o (madlife lux). if we put something like this as the benchmark for 100%, you'll understand what i mean by mechanics. it's basically everything you are able to do with your character. landing skillshots, moving and spacing, weaving in autos between spellcasts, managing cooldowns, knowing spell ranges etcetc.


Master the Osu and your mechanics will be godlike... well mouse precision at least.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
May 18 2013 14:31 GMT
#857
On May 18 2013 22:54 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:39 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!)

i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics?

thanks! (you can also PM me)

play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking.


thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.


what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O
EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really


i'm talking things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxluSDNsL7o (madlife lux). if we put something like this as the benchmark for 100%, you'll understand what i mean by mechanics. it's basically everything you are able to do with your character. landing skillshots, moving and spacing, weaving in autos between spellcasts, managing cooldowns, knowing spell ranges etcetc.

http://www.icallmid.com/?p=6
not much besides this really
Chun-li since ST
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 14:36:45
May 18 2013 14:33 GMT
#858
On May 18 2013 15:28 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 14:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 18 2013 14:37 TheYango wrote:
"Feed Uzi" is a pretty good game plan.

Simple, yet effective.

I dunno; CLG makes it look a lot harder to pull off.

If CLG went out their way to feed Uzi I think the reason they were losing would be apparent lol.

Jokes aside, Uzi > Doublelift
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 18 2013 14:43 GMT
#859
On May 18 2013 23:09 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:32 sob3k wrote:
If you cant salvage your elo you belong at that elo.

QFT.
I will also like to add; no matter how many games you already have played in ranked, the amount it takes to raise your current mmr by X amount of points, is still equivalent to very little number of past games. MMR gains are slow, but past grouping of plays doesn't affect your ability to gain mmr.
On May 18 2013 22:10 DonKey_ wrote:
Wow I just watched.

http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/state-of-the-league-lcs-na-all-stars-special-6408559/

Gotta say that interview has got me really hyped for all-stars now. I don't even like the state of the leagues, but that was a good interview.

NA seems pretty confident they will do well and I really want to see it happen. The more interesting thing though is how they all seem to be having more FUN in general with this team.

Can't wait to see Doublelift get hit by every single binding/spear/hook humanly possible.

Maybe then people will be convinced he's not as good as he's hyped up to be?

It'd be interesting to see how doublelift plays when he doesn't have a team to peel for him.
liftlift > tsm
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 18 2013 14:55 GMT
#860
with tencent purchasing Riot last year, could they technically tell Riot what to do if they come up with some crazy idea in china? Or can Riot still do whatever the hell they want.

Either way Brandon Beck and Marc Merril probably ballin like crazy after that deal.
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