Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level.
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							Capped
							
							
						 
						
						United Kingdom7236 Posts
						 
					Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level. TY.  | ||
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							justiceknight
							
							
						 
						
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					On May 18 2013 22:30 Capped wrote: Can someone give me CS timers for mid / top / ADC? Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level. TY. the value of CS is equivalent to the game timer,eg: 10 min = 100 cs, 20min = 200cs.  | ||
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							nyxnyxnyx
							
							
						 
						
						Indonesia2978 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote: serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!) i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics? thanks! (you can also PM me) play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking. thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs.  | ||
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							Capped
							
							
						 
						
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							nafta
							
							
						 
						
						Bulgaria18893 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote: serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!) i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics? thanks! (you can also PM me) play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking. thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs. You could try playing games to increase your reaction time/mouse precision/multitask.By multitask I mean just notice everything in fights and look at minimap while in lane.  | ||
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							Shikyo
							
							
						 
						
						Finland33997 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:33 justiceknight wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:30 Capped wrote: Can someone give me CS timers for mid / top / ADC? Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level. TY. the value of CS is equivalent to the game timer,eg: 10 min = 100 cs, 20min = 200cs. Not entirely accurate, 100 at 10min is far better than 200 at 20min. It also completely depends on the game. I'd say you should aim for something like 85 at 10min, 200 at 20min, 330 at 30min. This isn't perfect but it's still pretty good. If you get total freefarm and there's no kills or ganks you should be around 100 minions at 10min though.  | ||
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							Artok
							
							
						 
						
						Netherlands2219 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote: serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!) i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics? thanks! (you can also PM me) play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking. thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs. what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really  | ||
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							Capped
							
							
						 
						
						United Kingdom7236 Posts
						 
					Cool. Something to work on i guess, my laning sucks compared to my jungle / support.  | ||
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							nafta
							
							
						 
						
						Bulgaria18893 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:38 Shikyo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:33 justiceknight wrote: On May 18 2013 22:30 Capped wrote: Can someone give me CS timers for mid / top / ADC? Like, whats expected at 10, 15 and 20 mins at a high level. TY. the value of CS is equivalent to the game timer,eg: 10 min = 100 cs, 20min = 200cs. Not entirely accurate, 100 at 10min is far better than 200 at 20min. It also completely depends on the game. I'd say you should aim for something like 85 at 10min, 200 at 20min, 330 at 30min. This isn't perfect but it's still pretty good. If you get total freefarm and there's no kills or ganks you should be around 100 minions at 10min though. This doesn't happen.You will back/die/get zoned etc.Unless you take jungle 100 at 10 minutes is very unreasonable.Mid is the only lane where people let you free farm.Bot most of the time is about denying the enemy ad rather than getting farmed atm anyway.  | ||
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							nyxnyxnyx
							
							
						 
						
						Indonesia2978 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:37 nafta wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote: serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!) i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics? thanks! (you can also PM me) play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking. thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs. You could try playing games to increase your reaction time/mouse precision/multitask.By multitask I mean just notice everything in fights and look at minimap while in lane. reaction time and mouse precision are probably what i'm looking for specifically. map awareness is also one of them, since i need to be able to channel my spare resources (time and concentration) to looking at the map and feeding information that will facilitate decisions for my team  | ||
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							wei2coolman
							
							
						 
						
						United States60033 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 20:32 sob3k wrote: If you cant salvage your elo you belong at that elo. QFT. I will also like to add; no matter how many games you already have played in ranked, the amount it takes to raise your current mmr by X amount of points, is still equivalent to very little number of past games. MMR gains are slow, but past grouping of plays doesn't affect your ability to gain mmr. On May 18 2013 22:10 DonKey_ wrote: Wow I just watched. http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/state-of-the-league-lcs-na-all-stars-special-6408559/ Gotta say that interview has got me really hyped for all-stars now. I don't even like the state of the leagues, but that was a good interview. NA seems pretty confident they will do well and I really want to see it happen. The more interesting thing though is how they all seem to be having more FUN in general with this team. Can't wait to see Doublelift get hit by every single binding/spear/hook humanly possible.  | ||
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							nyxnyxnyx
							
							
						 
						
						Indonesia2978 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:39 Artok wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote: serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!) i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics? thanks! (you can also PM me) play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking. thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs. what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really i'm talking things like (madlife lux). if we put something like this as the benchmark for 100%, you'll understand what i mean by mechanics. it's basically everything you are able to do with your character. landing skillshots, moving and spacing, weaving in autos between spellcasts, managing cooldowns, knowing spell ranges etcetc.  | ||
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							sylverfyre
							
							
						 
						
						United States8298 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:50 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 20:32 sob3k wrote: If you cant salvage your elo you belong at that elo. QFT. I will also like to add; no matter how many games you already have played in ranked, the amount it takes to raise your current mmr by X amount of points, is still equivalent to very little number of past games. MMR gains are slow, but past grouping of plays doesn't affect your ability to gain mmr. Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:10 DonKey_ wrote: Wow I just watched. http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/state-of-the-league-lcs-na-all-stars-special-6408559/ Gotta say that interview has got me really hyped for all-stars now. I don't even like the state of the leagues, but that was a good interview. NA seems pretty confident they will do well and I really want to see it happen. The more interesting thing though is how they all seem to be having more FUN in general with this team. Can't wait to see Doublelift get hit by every single binding/spear/hook humanly possible. Maybe then people will be convinced he's not as good as he's hyped up to be?  | ||
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					On May 18 2013 22:54 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:39 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote: serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!) i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics? thanks! (you can also PM me) play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking. thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs. what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really i'm talking things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxluSDNsL7o (madlife lux). if we put something like this as the benchmark for 100%, you'll understand what i mean by mechanics. it's basically everything you are able to do with your character. landing skillshots, moving and spacing, weaving in autos between spellcasts, managing cooldowns, knowing spell ranges etcetc. Master the Osu and your mechanics will be godlike... well mouse precision at least.  | ||
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							Artok
							
							
						 
						
						Netherlands2219 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 22:54 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:39 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote: On May 18 2013 22:06 Artok wrote: On May 18 2013 22:01 nyxnyxnyx wrote: serious question for the better players out there (at least diamond!) i have an opportunity to play for a better team, but it's sorta contingent on me improving my mechanics (i play support). is there anyone who knows of a good/consistent way to improve one's mechanics? thanks! (you can also PM me) play the game? mechanical skill purely comes from just repeating the same thing over and over till you can do it without thinking. thing is i've played this game for years now, since beta. i'm in challenger atm but i feel it's more due to decision making / itemization etc (basically everything not-mechanics) i want to take my game to the next level and mechanics is my weakest link atm, so i'm looking for a way to improve them. ''play the game'' is definitely true, but not quite specific enough for my needs. what kind of mechanics are we talking about? support doesnt really depend on last hitting, mouse precision isnt really much, then theres what, skillshots? No better way to learn how to flash sona ulti than to play 200 sona games in a row and focusing on hitting optimal flash ultis, practicing against bots will result in minimal imrpovement because well, theyre bots. I cant say anything else without you describing what do you exactly mean by mechanics ;O EDIT: i dont consider decision making and spacing mechanics, since theyre more dependant on game knowledge really i'm talking things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxluSDNsL7o (madlife lux). if we put something like this as the benchmark for 100%, you'll understand what i mean by mechanics. it's basically everything you are able to do with your character. landing skillshots, moving and spacing, weaving in autos between spellcasts, managing cooldowns, knowing spell ranges etcetc. http://www.icallmid.com/?p=6 not much besides this really  | ||
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							onlywonderboy
							
							
						 
						
						United States23745 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 15:28 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 14:43 onlywonderboy wrote: On May 18 2013 14:37 TheYango wrote: "Feed Uzi" is a pretty good game plan. Simple, yet effective. I dunno; CLG makes it look a lot harder to pull off. If CLG went out their way to feed Uzi I think the reason they were losing would be apparent lol. Jokes aside, Uzi > Doublelift  | ||
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							wei2coolman
							
							
						 
						
						United States60033 Posts
						 
					On May 18 2013 23:09 sylverfyre wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:50 wei2coolman wrote: On May 18 2013 20:32 sob3k wrote: If you cant salvage your elo you belong at that elo. QFT. I will also like to add; no matter how many games you already have played in ranked, the amount it takes to raise your current mmr by X amount of points, is still equivalent to very little number of past games. MMR gains are slow, but past grouping of plays doesn't affect your ability to gain mmr. On May 18 2013 22:10 DonKey_ wrote: Wow I just watched. http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/state-of-the-league-lcs-na-all-stars-special-6408559/ Gotta say that interview has got me really hyped for all-stars now. I don't even like the state of the leagues, but that was a good interview. NA seems pretty confident they will do well and I really want to see it happen. The more interesting thing though is how they all seem to be having more FUN in general with this team. Can't wait to see Doublelift get hit by every single binding/spear/hook humanly possible. Maybe then people will be convinced he's not as good as he's hyped up to be? It'd be interesting to see how doublelift plays when he doesn't have a team to peel for him.  | ||
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							AsnSensation
							
							
						 
						
						Germany24009 Posts
						 
					Either way Brandon Beck and Marc Merril probably ballin like crazy after that deal.  | ||
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