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[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
You can alllllllllll suck it <3 | ||
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bmn
886 Posts
On May 16 2013 06:51 Alaric wrote: Rumble does more damage with Q when he's in danger zone than previously, wtf are you guys talking about. It's not like maintaining said zone is excruciatingly difficult either. I don't know why you think he does more, but here's a back-of-the-envelope calculation for each level of Q: Base damages before: 112.5, 200.0, 287.5, 375.0, 462.5 Base damages after: 112.5, 202.5, 292.5, 382.5, 472.5 AP scaling in danger zone is 0.18 lower than it used to be, while base damages are higher. Old damage output is lower than new damage output as soon as you exceed this much AP: 0, 13, 27, 41, 55 So you're NEVER doing more damage at level 1, but even at level 2 it's a nerf if you have over 13 AP, which isn't unrealistic. It's a nerf late-game if you're building more than 55 AP. And this is just the danger zone changes; he's much worse off outside the danger zone -- he lost 0.35 AP scaling on his Q there. I don't think anyone will seriously argue that Rumble is now stronger than before. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:14 Shikyo wrote: Well, she scales worse with items and the aspd mastery so she won't really have higher aspd lategame anyway. Math for 18 no runes, masteries, items: 1.075 now 1.02872 before Wait, so she does or doesn't have higher aspd lategame? According to those numbers you just wrote, her base aspd is increased at level 18 which would make her scale better with items and masteries. o.O | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:22 Ketara wrote: I love that the Lux change didn't go through. You can alllllllllll suck it <3 Remember you said this come next patch. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:18 Shikyo wrote: Her shield's stronger in 1v1 engages that she initiates. Still yeah I don't think it's that warranted, I didn't consider Diana a top pick(like in E - S tiers I'd say she was around A not S) she was S tier for sure, picked in like every game in OGN | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
And also everyone is going to play Nami in two weeks when they realize she wasnt bad before the nerfs and will probably be borderline broken now. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On May 16 2013 06:38 NeoIllusions wrote: hey you, I don't name GD threads, I just borrow from what Riot labels their patches. This one is simply 3.7.  [Patch 3.07: Item Sets] General Discussion | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
[Patch 3.07: Fifteen Pages of Math] General Discussion | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/patch-37-notes URL, Patch notes title, etc. Nothing refers to Item Sets until the very, very bottom. Besides, I took creative liberties in naming this GD anyways. np gaiz. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:22 bmn wrote: Edit: Fix broken numbers, I got base damages the wrong way around. This only makes it clearer that it's a nerf. I don't know why you think he does more, but here's a back-of-the-envelope calculation for each level of Q: Base damages before: 112.5, 200.0, 287.5, 375.0, 462.5 Base damages after: 112.5, 202.5, 292.5, 382.5, 472.5 AP scaling in danger zone is 0.18 lower than it used to be, while base damages are higher. Old damage output is lower than new damage output as soon as you exceed this much AP: 0, 13, 27, 41, 55 So you're NEVER doing more damage at level 1, but even at level 2 it's a nerf if you have over 13 AP, which isn't unrealistic. It's a nerf late-game if you're building more than 55 AP. And this is just the danger zone changes; he's much worse off outside the danger zone -- he lost 0.35 AP scaling on his Q there. I don't think anyone will seriously argue that Rumble is now stronger than before. Is anyone trying to defend that rumble is balanced? | ||
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Sermokala
United States14110 Posts
ROLL TIDE BITCHES! | ||
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bmn
886 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:32 101toss wrote: Is anyone trying to defend that rumble is balanced? Uh, just read up? Alaric said that post-patch Rumble does more damage in Q in danger zone, I'm saying that no, he doesn't. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:23 beefhamburger wrote: Wait, so she does or doesn't have higher aspd lategame? According to those numbers you just wrote, her base aspd is increased at level 18 which would make her scale better with items and masteries. o.O Her base aspd is 0.625? It's never increased. | ||
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swim224
Botswana368 Posts
Custom item sets can now be created and edited in the summoner profile. Finally :D | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On May 16 2013 06:31 Seuss wrote: TF picks will drop precipitously for a few months and then everyone will realize that he's still awesome the same way Karthus randomly resurged a few months after his supposedly crippling ult CD nerfs It's a DPS buff (10% atkspd) until you start putting more points into E. People kept it at lvl 1 anyway. Really it's just an ult nerf. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:33 Sermokala wrote: RIP top lane nunu Hello new jungle nunu. ROLL TIDE BITCHES! top nunu aint dead ill show u | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Top Nunu will be fine. Jungle Nunu just will be much much stronger than it is currently. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
Ahh ok. I didn't know whether aspd per level was considered additional base AS or bonus AS. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 16 2013 07:43 beefhamburger wrote: Ahh ok. I didn't know whether aspd per level was considered additional base AS or bonus AS. Always been bonus aspd. Well, until Cait gets an aspd item additional to zerkers, her aspd will be better at lvl 18 now. Still, with shiv or PD it'll be significantly worse and of course far worse early on after she gets zerkers because they scale so much worse with her new base aspd. On May 16 2013 07:46 IMoperator wrote: Are they ever going to fix khazix? Luckily they nerfed one of his main counters, Zed, but left him untouched. | ||
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