EPT[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…
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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3 If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo. | ||
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Craton
United States17259 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:43 Slusher wrote: I just don't think thats his role anymore after these changes. Possibly. Evolved W is still going to be strong poke and strong lane sustain (while costing less mana). Sure you lose out on 190 damage from your passive but 235 (+1.0 bonus AD) is still a lot of poke for an assassin. Especially if you're hitting more than 2 people with it. And you'll probably be building Manamune anyways since Muramana is so good but even if you don't it's no big deal because W costs 25 less mana now. I dunno, I think people are so used to playing Kha'Zix as this guy who pokes and then jumps in to assassinate that it'll be weird to see him played as a straight assassin. Especially since, I would argue, that the only reason Kha'Zix is popular is because of his poke. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Skarner fractures the ground in front of him, dealing X damage, and the same damage again over N seconds. Enemies who remain on fractured ground take 2/4/6/8/10% additional damage. Let's face it, the heal aspect of skarner's E is kinda terrible. The graphics animation could be the standard cracked earth, with a glow depending on the skin(blue, green, red) | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:56 overt wrote: Possibly. Evolved W is still going to be strong poke and strong lane sustain (while costing less mana). Sure you lose out on 190 damage from your passive but 235 (+1.0 bonus AD) is still a lot of poke for an assassin. Especially if you're hitting more than 2 people with it. And you'll probably be building Manamune anyways since Muramana is so good but even if you don't it's no big deal because W costs 25 less mana now. I dunno, I think people are so used to playing Kha'Zix as this guy who pokes and then jumps in to assassinate that it'll be weird to see him played as a straight assassin. Especially since, I would argue, that the only reason Kha'Zix is popular is because of his poke. If you guys are right about this than it will just expose how broken Zed really is. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:54 Craton wrote: To buff Skarner, buff (better, redesign) E. the only problem with skarner E is that its he has 3 skills which scale evenly instead of a 1 point wonder spell so even if it isnt that much worse than q theres no reason to waste mana on a level 1 spell its kinda like soraka q its possible to play with q max but soraka usually is vs double ranged so its never worth it because the mana cost goes up too high while heal is too good | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Like, if you play Kha'Zix as a straight up assassin evolving Q>E>R you might as well just play a different assassin. But you could still play Kha'Zix the way you used to with W>E>R and still assassinate people just as hard as you used to with lower mana cost and with more damage reduction on R at the cost of a weaker poke. Evolve Q seems like something that'll be stronger in lane, especially top lane, but evolve W is still strong in lane and | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:33 Frolossus wrote: back to annie for a bit, but does anyone think that the combination of health + mr AND the mana cost reduction on tibbers is a little bit too much for her? It is. I've been rocking a 70% winrate with her on my way back to Diamond and she's perfectly fine atm. Buffing her will just make her fotm/broken. EDIT : boots change is also a buff to her since she LOVED opening boots. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Hm. Once AD scaling was a cool concept but it seems a bit overdone now with people left and right having AD scaling. I do wonder... | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On June 11 2013 08:08 overt wrote: Like, if you play Kha'Zix as a straight up assassin evolving Q>E>R you might as well just play a different assassin. he still has the best escape with E evolve. On June 11 2013 08:11 MoonBear wrote: One thing that really irritates me about high AD scaling is that those champions gain a lot because it affects their spells and autoattacks. Having strongly scaling autoattacks is huge but people seem content to just spell spam and let that carry them. Your farming is easier, when spells are on CD you still deal strong damage and in general everyone's cooldowns are getting to a point where the difference between AP and AD burst is growing smaller and smaller. Hm. Once AD scaling was a cool concept but it seems a bit overdone now with people left and right having AD scaling. I do wonder... I somewhat agree, but it is possible to get like 3x the possible AP than AD. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 11 2013 08:11 MoonBear wrote: One thing that really irritates me about high AD scaling is that those champions gain a lot because it affects their spells and autoattacks. Having strongly scaling autoattacks is huge but people seem content to just spell spam and let that carry them. Your farming is easier, when spells are on CD you still deal strong damage and in general everyone's cooldowns are getting to a point where the difference between AP and AD burst is growing smaller and smaller. Hm. Once AD scaling was a cool concept but it seems a bit overdone now with people left and right having AD scaling. I do wonder... Wait what? When was it cool? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 11 2013 08:05 Slayer91 wrote: the only problem with skarner E is that its he has 3 skills which scale evenly instead of a 1 point wonder spell so even if it isnt that much worse than q theres no reason to waste mana on a level 1 spell its kinda like soraka q its possible to play with q max but soraka usually is vs double ranged so its never worth it because the mana cost goes up too high while heal is too good They should put Skarner's healing from E to his Q (with nerfs), then redesign a new E that does %max health damage. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Jungle changes Item (omg boots / dring! ) changes Champ nerfs/buffs Fuck me, next couple of weeks are going to be fun! Annie OP My poor pony  Dat kha. I feel like Mid / jungle are going to see alot of changes from this, mid because of the dring / boots changes. Its viable to start dring + 2 now, like dayum. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
Also jungle changes are bad for Eve and Rengar. The 2 champions I enjoy playing the most. Not to mention that my team have been practicing solo bot purple side. :S | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
They should make something like 100stack will stun/freeze the enemy for 0.5sec or something. Or better yet. Make her passive work with her Q. If Q is toggling on, it will crit, if Q is toggling off, it will stun. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
We've improved consistency for abilities that behaved inconsistently when the targeted enemy uses Flash. Volibear's Rolling Thunder Literally made my day. Hot damn. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:53 Ketara wrote: The jungle changes are going to help absolutely everybody and just be great. i think nobody is going to want to leash at all | ||
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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