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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 06 2013 16:10 GMT
#1941
i forgot how many ap tests i took (something like 20?), but i got national ap scholar or w/e for averaging over a 4. i just remember the 4's i got were lang, physics c mechanics and calc bc. honestly, it was mostly because i had good teachers and im a good standardized test taker.

my school capped out transfer credit at 24 (6 classes equivalent). meh.

this is kind of random, but a lot of champs feel a lot clunkier than they used to, like all their spells have longer casting animations or times. its kind of frustrating, i cant use my face to play the game anymore.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 06 2013 16:16 GMT
#1942
Veigar's stun actually isn't too bad once you get a fair idea of where it's going to show up. I don't I think I could go back because placing it manually comparatively just feels too slow for a fast burst combo (Like flashing in and doing the stun combo at 6 if you smell a kill).
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2013 16:19 GMT
#1943
On May 07 2013 00:54 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 00:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 07 2013 00:44 Alaric wrote:
I really need to learn to smartcast that E though, when I'm chasing somebody or trying to Bob-and-weave to get a laser in (happens a lot against squishy glass-cannons like Draven), I have to cast it fast to use the range however not casting at all because I don't drag the mouse enough happens way too often. >_< I missed 3 kills like that this game, me bad.
Would be simpler with smartcast but I'll need to focus on playing him then, getting used to 540 range is way harder than stuff like 1000 or 850 range (who the heck has 540 casting range on a non-point'n'click spell ôo).

Oh lord that is probably the last ability I would ever smartcast. And I played Viktor a LOT S2.

? Smartcasting Viktor's laser is wonderful, about 1000 times faster than not smartcasting. Learn mouse.


Nope, smartcasting might be slightly faster than dumbcasting it, but I will always dumbcast Viktor Laser.

I dumbcast the things that absolutely need to be placed correctly (shields, walls, etc.) Line drag skill shots definitely fall under that (rumble ult), and when you use Vik laser as often as you do, I feel it needs to be exactly where I want it - and I always fuck it up if it's smartcasted.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 06 2013 16:29 GMT
#1944
On May 07 2013 01:16 RuskiPanda wrote:
Veigar's stun actually isn't too bad once you get a fair idea of where it's going to show up. I don't I think I could go back because placing it manually comparatively just feels too slow for a fast burst combo (Like flashing in and doing the stun combo at 6 if you smell a kill).

A good Veigar player smartcasting his stun is... yiiks, so scary. x_x
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 06 2013 16:54 GMT
#1945
Maybe I'm just dumb, but I've never really understood how Viktor/Rumble line nukes are supposed to work with smartcast. It feels so horrific, I can't imagine doing it all the time.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 16:57 GMT
#1946
The thing I currently hate in LoL the most:

Jarvan can pull himself to his flag while snared.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 17:11:43
May 06 2013 17:11 GMT
#1947
Bitter Lux player much?

I pick Jarvan mid against Lux pretty routinely, just to be a prick. Usually do very well. Or Gragas. Huehue.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 17:19:34
May 06 2013 17:13 GMT
#1948
On May 07 2013 01:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 00:54 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 00:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 07 2013 00:44 Alaric wrote:
I really need to learn to smartcast that E though, when I'm chasing somebody or trying to Bob-and-weave to get a laser in (happens a lot against squishy glass-cannons like Draven), I have to cast it fast to use the range however not casting at all because I don't drag the mouse enough happens way too often. >_< I missed 3 kills like that this game, me bad.
Would be simpler with smartcast but I'll need to focus on playing him then, getting used to 540 range is way harder than stuff like 1000 or 850 range (who the heck has 540 casting range on a non-point'n'click spell ôo).

Oh lord that is probably the last ability I would ever smartcast. And I played Viktor a LOT S2.

? Smartcasting Viktor's laser is wonderful, about 1000 times faster than not smartcasting. Learn mouse.


Nope, smartcasting might be slightly faster than dumbcasting it, but I will always dumbcast Viktor Laser.

I dumbcast the things that absolutely need to be placed correctly (shields, walls, etc.) Line drag skill shots definitely fall under that (rumble ult), and when you use Vik laser as often as you do, I feel it needs to be exactly where I want it - and I always fuck it up if it's smartcasted.

I don't see how it's difficult to place how you need to. All you do is click at the start point, drag, and let go. Only need to drag a tiny bit, too. It also definitely isn't a tiny bit faster, if you use your mouse properly as I said to, it's just as fast as smartcast with range indicators because you can use your mouse easily in the time that you have your button pressed down. Smartcasting here has nothing to do with accuracy because... There's no difference in accuracy, the only difference is 1 key press vs 2. You also don't need to be accurate at all, you just need the direction. I for one have no problems with going towards the right direction, just with the distance, so casting it is practically instant.

If anything, it's more accurate because it takes less time. I definitely cannot run up, Lazer, and instantly run back nearly as fast without smartcast. If you don't smartcast it you're engine limited.



Oh and if you indeed need to be really precise smartcast with range indicators is pretty good even though it's significantly slower than smartcast(line nukes like Viktor E are smartcast with range indicators by default btw)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
May 06 2013 17:23 GMT
#1949
I use smartcast and bind shift-LETTER to safecast, best of both worlds.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 17:27 GMT
#1950
On May 07 2013 02:11 zer0das wrote:
Bitter Lux player much?

I pick Jarvan mid against Lux pretty routinely, just to be a prick. Usually do very well. Or Gragas. Huehue.


Because it's totally fair that Jarvan has the only gapcloser in the entire game that you can use while CC'd.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 06 2013 17:30 GMT
#1951
On May 07 2013 02:27 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:11 zer0das wrote:
Bitter Lux player much?

I pick Jarvan mid against Lux pretty routinely, just to be a prick. Usually do very well. Or Gragas. Huehue.


Because it's totally fair that Jarvan has the only gapcloser in the entire game that you can use while CC'd.

xin zhao doesn't care about your flag.
i learned that the hard way.



i finished my syndra guide a while ago but then i kept losing so now i don't want to post it. lol =\
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 06 2013 17:33 GMT
#1952
On May 07 2013 02:27 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:11 zer0das wrote:
Bitter Lux player much?

I pick Jarvan mid against Lux pretty routinely, just to be a prick. Usually do very well. Or Gragas. Huehue.


Because it's totally fair that Jarvan has the only gapcloser in the entire game that you can use while CC'd.

Code. A "movement" spell is forbidden while you are rooted, however Jarvan's Q isn't a movement spell per see so you can still cast it (if only to finish off that pesky Ryze that Rune Prison'd you at 5 HP), what Riot would need to do to avoid the situation would be to prevent the pull from happening if you are rooted. I guess they overlooked it when coding, and now they don't want/care to change it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
May 06 2013 17:40 GMT
#1953
On May 07 2013 02:23 thenexusp wrote:
I use smartcast and bind shift-LETTER to safecast, best of both worlds.


I switched to smartcasting a while back. Only thing I regularly mess up when smartcasting is using Flay the way I want on Thresh.
I have my bindings set up like you, although I honestly think if you're not smartcasting certain abilities like Rumble ult, then it's just a case of not having practiced it enough.


Also, I've never even seen a Karma in my games, but people on here seem to be hinting she's really OP mid lane. Do people just mean that she's viable? Or is she legitimately better than a lot of the current FOTM champions?
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 06 2013 17:41 GMT
#1954
On May 07 2013 02:33 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:27 Ketara wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:11 zer0das wrote:
Bitter Lux player much?

I pick Jarvan mid against Lux pretty routinely, just to be a prick. Usually do very well. Or Gragas. Huehue.


Because it's totally fair that Jarvan has the only gapcloser in the entire game that you can use while CC'd.

Code. A "movement" spell is forbidden while you are rooted, however Jarvan's Q isn't a movement spell per see so you can still cast it (if only to finish off that pesky Ryze that Rune Prison'd you at 5 HP), what Riot would need to do to avoid the situation would be to prevent the pull from happening if you are rooted. I guess they overlooked it when coding, and now they don't want/care to change it.

Riot's always had stupid inconsistencies with its coding
Bronze player stuck in platinum
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 17:47:36
May 06 2013 17:46 GMT
#1955
On May 07 2013 02:40 Agnosthar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:23 thenexusp wrote:
I use smartcast and bind shift-LETTER to safecast, best of both worlds.


I switched to smartcasting a while back. Only thing I regularly mess up when smartcasting is using Flay the way I want on Thresh.
I have my bindings set up like you, although I honestly think if you're not smartcasting certain abilities like Rumble ult, then it's just a case of not having practiced it enough.


Also, I've never even seen a Karma in my games, but people on here seem to be hinting she's really OP mid lane. Do people just mean that she's viable? Or is she legitimately better than a lot of the current FOTM champions?


Post-remake her damage and utility was pretty incredible with a full CDR build to start. Then they buffed her damage and Mantra cooldowns. For anyone who can play her at all decently, it makes her a monster.

To add some of my own observations, I'm a shitty mid laner but I've been able to dominate with her hardcore. You can do pretty well in 1v1s, but when you start adding massive shields and movement to your team everything goes in your favor FAST.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 06 2013 17:46 GMT
#1956
Karma packs a good amount of synergy with a lot of initiation/counter-initiation/poke/protect comps, and has a stellar laning phase and excellent teamfight as long as you don't expect Veigar-like burst from her.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2013 17:47 GMT
#1957
On May 07 2013 02:46 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:40 Agnosthar wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:23 thenexusp wrote:
I use smartcast and bind shift-LETTER to safecast, best of both worlds.


I switched to smartcasting a while back. Only thing I regularly mess up when smartcasting is using Flay the way I want on Thresh.
I have my bindings set up like you, although I honestly think if you're not smartcasting certain abilities like Rumble ult, then it's just a case of not having practiced it enough.


Also, I've never even seen a Karma in my games, but people on here seem to be hinting she's really OP mid lane. Do people just mean that she's viable? Or is she legitimately better than a lot of the current FOTM champions?


Post-remake her damage and utility was pretty incredible with a full CDR build to start. Then they buffed her damage and Mantra cooldowns. For anyone who can play her at all decently, it makes her a monster.


It's still hilarious how few people know how to play with her though, which results in more losses than necessary.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 06 2013 17:48 GMT
#1958
On May 07 2013 02:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:46 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:40 Agnosthar wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:23 thenexusp wrote:
I use smartcast and bind shift-LETTER to safecast, best of both worlds.


I switched to smartcasting a while back. Only thing I regularly mess up when smartcasting is using Flay the way I want on Thresh.
I have my bindings set up like you, although I honestly think if you're not smartcasting certain abilities like Rumble ult, then it's just a case of not having practiced it enough.


Also, I've never even seen a Karma in my games, but people on here seem to be hinting she's really OP mid lane. Do people just mean that she's viable? Or is she legitimately better than a lot of the current FOTM champions?


Post-remake her damage and utility was pretty incredible with a full CDR build to start. Then they buffed her damage and Mantra cooldowns. For anyone who can play her at all decently, it makes her a monster.


It's still hilarious how few people know how to play with her though, which results in more losses than necessary.


I haven't played her with the new buffs. How's that Q damage in lane now?
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 06 2013 17:52 GMT
#1959
i'm not 100% sure, but i think amumu can bandage out of a snare.

dunno about thresh hook or lee sin dash, ez blinks, etc.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
May 06 2013 17:52 GMT
#1960
On May 07 2013 02:33 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:27 Ketara wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:11 zer0das wrote:
Bitter Lux player much?

I pick Jarvan mid against Lux pretty routinely, just to be a prick. Usually do very well. Or Gragas. Huehue.


Because it's totally fair that Jarvan has the only gapcloser in the entire game that you can use while CC'd.

Code. A "movement" spell is forbidden while you are rooted, however Jarvan's Q isn't a movement spell per see so you can still cast it (if only to finish off that pesky Ryze that Rune Prison'd you at 5 HP), what Riot would need to do to avoid the situation would be to prevent the pull from happening if you are rooted. I guess they overlooked it when coding, and now they don't want/care to change it.

Maybe they left it in to make up for his ult.
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