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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2013 18:04 GMT
#1961
On May 07 2013 02:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:47 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:46 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:40 Agnosthar wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:23 thenexusp wrote:
I use smartcast and bind shift-LETTER to safecast, best of both worlds.


I switched to smartcasting a while back. Only thing I regularly mess up when smartcasting is using Flay the way I want on Thresh.
I have my bindings set up like you, although I honestly think if you're not smartcasting certain abilities like Rumble ult, then it's just a case of not having practiced it enough.


Also, I've never even seen a Karma in my games, but people on here seem to be hinting she's really OP mid lane. Do people just mean that she's viable? Or is she legitimately better than a lot of the current FOTM champions?


Post-remake her damage and utility was pretty incredible with a full CDR build to start. Then they buffed her damage and Mantra cooldowns. For anyone who can play her at all decently, it makes her a monster.


It's still hilarious how few people know how to play with her though, which results in more losses than necessary.


I haven't played her with the new buffs. How's that Q damage in lane now?


If you get even a little bit ahead, it's incredibly suffocating for your opponent. Like, it's hilarious how dominant you can be with just a small amount of AP+CDR (athene)
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 06 2013 18:07 GMT
#1962
On May 07 2013 02:52 ticklishmusic wrote:
i'm not 100% sure, but i think amumu can bandage out of a snare.

dunno about thresh hook or lee sin dash, ez blinks, etc.

Movement spells cast prior to roots won't be stopped, though, at least not pulls (not sure about dashes, Vi is getting fucked super easily but it also has to do with how the game decides that she collides with somebody and the fact that her charge can be interrupted by a root).
Nautilus can say "fuck you" to Crescendo as long as you cast Dredge Line before being hit, it'll complete the animation and if you hit something pull you to it (bonus points: once you're used to Nautilus it's pretty easy to do as long as it's a reactive ult from Sona). I'm almost certain Amumu's Bandage Toss works the same.

To make up for it, Nautilus has a pretty shitty relationship with hitboxes and will count as hitting somebody with Dredge Line as long as they're close to hit, even if they're at the complete opposite of the direction where he's sending the anchor. Makes escaping with Dredge Line impossible as long as somebody's standing close to you (tl;dr never try to escape with Q after somebody uses a gap closer to you until you put a bit of distance, or you'll blow the cooldown and half a second).
Vi's Q (and thus Sejuani's, I expect) tends to do the same with any kind of gap closer. Get clicked on, the guy is on top of you, autos you once while you walk so now he's behind you, release Q, you'll be "in contact" with him and Q will go on cd and knock him "back"... right onto you.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 06 2013 18:15 GMT
#1963
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 06 2013 18:18 GMT
#1964
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2013 18:22 GMT
#1965
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


Hah. Haha. That's cute
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 06 2013 18:24 GMT
#1966
On May 07 2013 03:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


Hah. Haha. That's cute


My Epic TL 1v1 Senses are tingling.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 18:26:45
May 06 2013 18:26 GMT
#1967
speaking of 1v1... quinn beats almost anyone 1v1 though. except panth. screw that guy
BW -> League -> CSGO
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 06 2013 18:26 GMT
#1968
On May 07 2013 03:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


Hah. Haha. That's cute


My Epic TL 1v1 Senses are tingling.

There definitely aren't enough of these.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 06 2013 18:31 GMT
#1969
On May 07 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


Hah. Haha. That's cute


My Epic TL 1v1 Senses are tingling.

There definitely aren't enough of these.


You could even cast your Golem Partner's Allcomers vs. Karma.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35169 Posts
May 06 2013 18:42 GMT
#1970
On May 07 2013 03:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


Hah. Haha. That's cute


My Epic TL 1v1 Senses are tingling.

There definitely aren't enough of these.


You could even cast your Golem Partner's Allcomers vs. Karma.

I'd watch it.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2013 18:44 GMT
#1971
Would be a good experience for me as well - I haven't played enough of her to know for sure which match ups she excels in.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 18:46:34
May 06 2013 18:45 GMT
#1972
On May 07 2013 03:42 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


Hah. Haha. That's cute


My Epic TL 1v1 Senses are tingling.

There definitely aren't enough of these.


You could even cast your Golem Partner's Allcomers vs. Karma.

I'd watch it.

Can't cast; I'm not going to be home for the rest of the summer, plus baby stuff means I don't have a lot of personal time period.

Edit: If there's SERIOUS interest in this (and I don't have to organize it), I'll see if a time can be worked out where I'm free and can Skype/borrow someone's stream to cast.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 06 2013 18:50 GMT
#1973
Shitty coding by Riot makes all these weird inconsistent interactions

It's part of the game's charm, amirite?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 18:55:18
May 06 2013 18:54 GMT
#1974
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


karma dumpster truck zed pre 6.

On May 07 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be a good experience for me as well - I haven't played enough of her to know for sure which match ups she excels in.


I told you the secret build for karma. Please test out. Need your input plz.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 19:00:33
May 06 2013 18:58 GMT
#1975
On May 07 2013 03:54 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


karma dumpster truck zed pre 6.

Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be a good experience for me as well - I haven't played enough of her to know for sure which match ups she excels in.


I told you the secret build for karma. Please test out. Need your input plz.


I think Loci was running it the other night. He did decently well. Ignoring the fact that he wouldn't EVER USE MANTA E

edit: And yah, I know you need my input cuz you need a diamond mid's opinion, amirite? ;P
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Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
May 06 2013 19:04 GMT
#1976
On May 07 2013 03:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:54 Soloside wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


karma dumpster truck zed pre 6.

On May 07 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be a good experience for me as well - I haven't played enough of her to know for sure which match ups she excels in.


I told you the secret build for karma. Please test out. Need your input plz.


I think Loci was running it the other night. He did decently well. Ignoring the fact that he wouldn't EVER USE MANTA E

edit: And yah, I know you need my input cuz you need a diamond mid's opinion, amirite? ;P


that sub .500 win percentage against me must burn too h0t for you.

THAT'S RIGHT FELLOW TLers. SONIV CAN'T BEAT ME IN 5v5 SETUP.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 06 2013 19:05 GMT
#1977
On May 07 2013 03:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:42 Gahlo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:24 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


Hah. Haha. That's cute


My Epic TL 1v1 Senses are tingling.

There definitely aren't enough of these.


You could even cast your Golem Partner's Allcomers vs. Karma.

I'd watch it.

Can't cast; I'm not going to be home for the rest of the summer, plus baby stuff means I don't have a lot of personal time period.

Edit: If there's SERIOUS interest in this (and I don't have to organize it), I'll see if a time can be worked out where I'm free and can Skype/borrow someone's stream to cast.

I dunno about serious interest but yeah. If I were at home when it was on and I got reminded I'd totally do that over other things.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2013 19:06 GMT
#1978
On May 07 2013 04:04 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 03:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:54 Soloside wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


karma dumpster truck zed pre 6.

On May 07 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be a good experience for me as well - I haven't played enough of her to know for sure which match ups she excels in.


I told you the secret build for karma. Please test out. Need your input plz.


I think Loci was running it the other night. He did decently well. Ignoring the fact that he wouldn't EVER USE MANTA E

edit: And yah, I know you need my input cuz you need a diamond mid's opinion, amirite? ;P


that sub .500 win percentage against me must burn too h0t for you.

THAT'S RIGHT FELLOW TLers. SONIV CAN'T BEAT ME IN 5v5 SETUP.


vast sample size

also, luckiest Nocturne lvl 2 gank crit NA
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 06 2013 19:49 GMT
#1979
On May 07 2013 02:30 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 02:27 Ketara wrote:
On May 07 2013 02:11 zer0das wrote:
Bitter Lux player much?

I pick Jarvan mid against Lux pretty routinely, just to be a prick. Usually do very well. Or Gragas. Huehue.


Because it's totally fair that Jarvan has the only gapcloser in the entire game that you can use while CC'd.

xin zhao doesn't care about your flag.
i learned that the hard way.



i finished my syndra guide a while ago but then i kept losing so now i don't want to post it. lol =\


yo just post it anyway, always good to get more opinions and input
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
May 06 2013 19:52 GMT
#1980
On May 07 2013 04:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 04:04 Soloside wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:54 Soloside wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:18 Shikyo wrote:
On May 07 2013 03:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
Karma is annoying as shit to lane against or fight 1v1 in general. Nerfpls.

Zed beats her 1v1 pretty easily.


karma dumpster truck zed pre 6.

On May 07 2013 03:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Would be a good experience for me as well - I haven't played enough of her to know for sure which match ups she excels in.


I told you the secret build for karma. Please test out. Need your input plz.


I think Loci was running it the other night. He did decently well. Ignoring the fact that he wouldn't EVER USE MANTA E

edit: And yah, I know you need my input cuz you need a diamond mid's opinion, amirite? ;P


that sub .500 win percentage against me must burn too h0t for you.

THAT'S RIGHT FELLOW TLers. SONIV CAN'T BEAT ME IN 5v5 SETUP.


vast sample size

also, luckiest Nocturne lvl 2 gank crit NA



<3 that brawler gloves after first shop.

RNG gods were on my side that day.

But we should do some video tutorials on how to mid lane for da community
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