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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 06 2013 00:08 GMT
#1781
I don't see how your teammates arguing precludes the possibility of you playing a role that's available and just focusing on doing your part better.

Just because you won't win doesn't make the game a waste of time unless you choose to make it one.
Moderator
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 00:10 GMT
#1782
That's just a question of the situation. You can't tell me you've never played a game where right from champ select you just don't want to play with these people, or at the very least that this never happens to anybody ever.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 06 2013 00:16 GMT
#1783
I just had one of those situations, where two players come into champ select and start flaming eachother for the last game they just played. Would have killed for a free card out of that game.

And even if you have a chance winning and just focusing on your own game, it's most likely going to be a pain in the ass to play with people who actively try to ruin the game for eachother.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
May 06 2013 00:23 GMT
#1784
The way I see it, the best chance I have of raising my rank is by ensuring I'm in a positive state of mind when I'm playing games. Taking LP/MMR/time penalties out of the equation, playing with a bunch of flamers and trolls makes that harder to achieve. Dodging is an obvious solution. When that fails I turn people into bots (mute).
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 00:28:30
May 06 2013 00:26 GMT
#1785
On May 06 2013 07:43 Ketara wrote:
So, I've realized a new problem with the League system.

When you're real high up at the top of a division your gains/losses go way down right, and you start getting +-3 or so points per game.

However, when you dodge a game, you lose 3 points for the first dodge, and 10 points for the second dodge.

So you can actually get to a point where it's more beneficial to lose a game than it is to dodge one.

Or rather, if your team is blatantly toxic and you have absolutely no desire to play with them, it's more beneficial to enter the game and then alt+F4 than it is to dodge the game.

THAT is some stupid shit.

I understand what you're trying to say. But there is another reprecussion to doing that other than losing a game, and lp. Getting banned by leaver buster.

Also, going AFK due to people being toxic is quite hypocritical to me.

And no I've never had a game where I didn't want to play with those people. It's just a random draw, I don't really care how much people flame eachother as long as I play up to my standards. I've never understood why people get mad over flame online, it's fun to get into a little spat sometimes.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
May 06 2013 00:29 GMT
#1786
So what you need to figure out is, if you lose a game, you lose LP and MMR, so the next time you win, you will not gain as much LP as if you just dodged (since after dodging, your LP will be too low for your MMR and will go up faster to compensate)

And regardless of messaging, it's been stated by Rioters that dodging does not affect your MMR. The whole point of getting rid of the Elo loss on dodge back in mid-s2 was to get rid of people who dodge down to bronze to stomp noobs, and they wouldn't bring such a mechanism back into the game.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 06 2013 00:29 GMT
#1787
Cap so clutch
Jaedong :3
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 00:31:37
May 06 2013 00:31 GMT
#1788
On May 06 2013 09:29 ReketSomething wrote:
Cap so clutch

2-1 Zion Spartan. Cap to proceed through winner's bracket. Zion took 2 tower shots?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 00:32 GMT
#1789
On May 06 2013 09:26 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 07:43 Ketara wrote:
So, I've realized a new problem with the League system.

When you're real high up at the top of a division your gains/losses go way down right, and you start getting +-3 or so points per game.

However, when you dodge a game, you lose 3 points for the first dodge, and 10 points for the second dodge.

So you can actually get to a point where it's more beneficial to lose a game than it is to dodge one.

Or rather, if your team is blatantly toxic and you have absolutely no desire to play with them, it's more beneficial to enter the game and then alt+F4 than it is to dodge the game.

THAT is some stupid shit.

I understand what you're trying to say. But there is another reprecussion to doing that other than losing a game, and lp. Getting banned by leaver buster.

Also, going AFK due to people being toxic is quite hypocritical to me.

And no I've never had a game where I didn't want to play with those people. It's just a random draw, I don't really care how much people flame eachother as long as I play up to my standards. I've never understood why people get mad over flame online, it's fun to get into a little spat sometimes.


Not wanting to play with people who are being assholes is not really the same thing as getting mad over being flamed. It's good that this doesn't happen to you, but it does happen to other people. Personally, while I like being competitive, I also like to have fun while I play and I refuse to allow the game to put me in a toxic environment.

If you think it's hypocritical to go AFK because people are being toxic, then you must agree that it's ridiculous that the current system can encourage you to do this.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 06 2013 00:37 GMT
#1790
On May 06 2013 09:26 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 07:43 Ketara wrote:
So, I've realized a new problem with the League system.

When you're real high up at the top of a division your gains/losses go way down right, and you start getting +-3 or so points per game.

However, when you dodge a game, you lose 3 points for the first dodge, and 10 points for the second dodge.

So you can actually get to a point where it's more beneficial to lose a game than it is to dodge one.

Or rather, if your team is blatantly toxic and you have absolutely no desire to play with them, it's more beneficial to enter the game and then alt+F4 than it is to dodge the game.

THAT is some stupid shit.

I understand what you're trying to say. But there is another reprecussion to doing that other than losing a game, and lp. Getting banned by leaver buster.

Also, going AFK due to people being toxic is quite hypocritical to me.

And no I've never had a game where I didn't want to play with those people. It's just a random draw, I don't really care how much people flame eachother as long as I play up to my standards. I've never understood why people get mad over flame online, it's fun to get into a little spat sometimes.

Your username makes so much more since now
/hue
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 06 2013 00:42 GMT
#1791
I wonder how much people have learned from this BRNA tounament that will go into actual games outside of 1v1.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 06 2013 00:43 GMT
#1792
I'm starting to think that Soraka/Taric is one of the most BS combos in an ARAM. Taric can man mode all day with 2 heals, not to mention the sheer sustain/tankiness they give the rest of the team.

Had a pretty insane come of Taric/Soraka/Malz/Veigar/Fiddlesticks. Enemy team couldn't get anywhere near us or they'd get chain cced, even when they tried to come at us 5v5 they couldn't do anything because Fiddlesticks would ult and if anyone got low they'd get healed twice over. Probably one of the stronger ARAM teams I've encountered despite it being all magic damage...
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 06 2013 00:44 GMT
#1793
On May 06 2013 09:29 thenexusp wrote:
So what you need to figure out is, if you lose a game, you lose LP and MMR, so the next time you win, you will not gain as much LP as if you just dodged (since after dodging, your LP will be too low for your MMR and will go up faster to compensate)

And regardless of messaging, it's been stated by Rioters that dodging does not affect your MMR. The whole point of getting rid of the Elo loss on dodge back in mid-s2 was to get rid of people who dodge down to bronze to stomp noobs, and they wouldn't bring such a mechanism back into the game.


There's also the issue of how often people try to force others to dodge. Like someone picks mid and then the 4th pick who called it locks in Ahri or Anivia or something. Or back when Eve was considered worthless and every troll ever would just pick Revive/TP Evelyn to try and get people to dodge.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 06 2013 00:48 GMT
#1794
Random question: Is there a way to tell if you've finally hit the 10 wins to lock in your icon? Doesn't seem to be any indicator anywhere telling you when you have.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 00:50:14
May 06 2013 00:48 GMT
#1795
Finally got Janna in an ARAM today, it was horrible. After 2xring, sorc boots, DFG I couldn't ever shop, ended game with 5k gold doing nothing -.-

On May 06 2013 09:48 MoonBear wrote:
Random question: Is there a way to tell if you've finally hit the 10 wins to lock in your icon? Doesn't seem to be any indicator anywhere telling you when you have.


It doesn't tell you. The permanent icon is a different one, so it won't change. You need to just change it to the perm one.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 00:49 GMT
#1796
On May 06 2013 09:48 MoonBear wrote:
Random question: Is there a way to tell if you've finally hit the 10 wins to lock in your icon? Doesn't seem to be any indicator anywhere telling you when you have.


Go look at your icons. You'll have both, one with the little button on it and one without.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 06 2013 00:52 GMT
#1797
lololol, dis noobbear.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 00:56:17
May 06 2013 00:56 GMT
#1798
I've won 10 but I don't see it. Unless they don't count Dominion Normals?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 06 2013 00:57 GMT
#1799
On May 06 2013 09:49 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 09:48 MoonBear wrote:
Random question: Is there a way to tell if you've finally hit the 10 wins to lock in your icon? Doesn't seem to be any indicator anywhere telling you when you have.


Go look at your icons. You'll have both, one with the little button on it and one without.

I think it's a clock?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 06 2013 00:57 GMT
#1800
Rage is a real sel-fulfilling prophecy though. I just finished a game as support morg where our mid started flaming our Ezreal for doing the Lizard>Mana>>IBG build, while the real reason he was doing shitty was that he kept trying to trade with the enemy draven-zyra lane. But that secretly didn't lose us the game, what did is our olaf Disconnecting at redbuff and feeding that to Akali, with the DC baiting me super hard cus I was like "nice we got a 2v1 so I bind>pool>pink while he mindlessly (literally lol) autos red. Welp, instant double.
Freeeeeeedom
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