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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 06 2013 01:02 GMT
#1801
On May 06 2013 09:56 MoonBear wrote:
I've won 10 but I don't see it. Unless they don't count Dominion Normals?

Everything except Bot games and Custom games count.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 01:15 GMT
#1802
Only summoners rift counts I'm pretty sure.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 06 2013 01:31 GMT
#1803
On May 06 2013 10:15 Ketara wrote:
Only summoners rift counts I'm pretty sure.

nah aram que's fine too
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 01:42:00
May 06 2013 01:37 GMT
#1804
Tried Fiora vs Kassadin mid for the first time.

Learn this matchup, freewins are fun. Killed him from 80% at lvl 2 with Q auto auto Q auto ignite. Fiora also doesn't give a shit about Kassadin's harrass and denies all melee lasthit attempts.

20min surrender, went 9-0 kass 0-6

Oh and of course after 6 you can oneshot with flash QQR ignite, he cannot riftwalk fast enough and you follow him.(Actually, it's better to flash QR ignite and Q for a second time after your ult ends for easier chasing IF you don't think your ult will kill him).
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 06 2013 01:44 GMT
#1805
On May 06 2013 10:37 Shikyo wrote:
Tried Fiora vs Kassadin mid for the first time.

Learn this matchup, freewins are fun. Killed him from 80% at lvl 2 with Q auto auto Q auto ignite. Fiora also doesn't give a shit about Kassadin's harrass and denies all melee lasthit attempts.

20min surrender, went 9-0 kass 0-6

Oh and of course after 6 you can oneshot with flash QQR ignite, he cannot riftwalk fast enough and you follow him.(Actually, it's better to flash QR ignite and Q for a second time after your ult ends for easier chasing IF you don't think your ult will kill him).


i'm toying a bit with fiora mid and it was by faaaaaaaaaar the easiest match up. like kass can't cs except with q until he gets 6 and you can dive him whenever your ult is up. + you put him so far behind that you outroam him ;D

did you play vs kha? feels okay except that his ult cancels fiora ult ;'(
Zest fanboy.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 01:53:41
May 06 2013 01:48 GMT
#1806
On May 06 2013 10:44 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 10:37 Shikyo wrote:
Tried Fiora vs Kassadin mid for the first time.

Learn this matchup, freewins are fun. Killed him from 80% at lvl 2 with Q auto auto Q auto ignite. Fiora also doesn't give a shit about Kassadin's harrass and denies all melee lasthit attempts.

20min surrender, went 9-0 kass 0-6

Oh and of course after 6 you can oneshot with flash QQR ignite, he cannot riftwalk fast enough and you follow him.(Actually, it's better to flash QR ignite and Q for a second time after your ult ends for easier chasing IF you don't think your ult will kill him).


i'm toying a bit with fiora mid and it was by faaaaaaaaaar the easiest match up. like kass can't cs except with q until he gets 6 and you can dive him whenever your ult is up. + you put him so far behind that you outroam him ;D

did you play vs kha? feels okay except that his ult cancels fiora ult ;'(

I've only played Fiora vs Kha top. Fiora beats him I feel but yeah his ult sort of counters you. Some epic pink ward micro is epic, though, as you only need to have vision for his first ult.

And yup this lane was even more stupid easy than I could have imagined. He can't do anything. Like after the first blood I harrassed him from full to 50% under his turret without having bought yet and ran back and only dropped to like 80% hp.

From now on I'll treat first pick Kassadin as freelo if I get mid.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 01:50:42
May 06 2013 01:50 GMT
#1807
This Qtiepie

WTF

WHY IS THIS GUY ADVANCING I DON'T GET IT
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 06 2013 01:50 GMT
#1808
welp, looks like lissandra has like a 41% winrate, I guess she's terrible
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 06 2013 01:51 GMT
#1809
I still think Lissandra should be very strong but they might want to take a look at Q range and Q base damage and being able to ERE if they want to buff her.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 06 2013 01:53 GMT
#1810
On May 06 2013 10:50 sob3k wrote:
welp, looks like lissandra has like a 41% winrate, I guess she's terrible



well Q is so short range unless it hits something and if shes fed her burst is ridiculous.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 06 2013 01:58 GMT
#1811
2 people kill each other at the same time again in the BRNA tourney
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 06 2013 01:58 GMT
#1812
guess they broke the game
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 02:00 GMT
#1813
I did a Lissandra vs. Akali today and even though I first blooded her pre-6, post-6 I couldn't even CS because her dash range was longer than my Q.

It was real hard to even play against her after she hit 6, I was fairly astonished.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 06 2013 02:01 GMT
#1814
On May 06 2013 11:00 Ketara wrote:
I did a Lissandra vs. Akali today and even though I first blooded her pre-6, post-6 I couldn't even CS because her dash range was longer than my Q.

It was real hard to even play against her after she hit 6, I was fairly astonished.

Yup, it's ridiculously low ranged for a skillshot like that, especially as it's not even that fast. It would be equal to like, a 500 range targeted ability...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 02:06 GMT
#1815
You actually can farm really effectively from range if you max E first on her, but if you do you're basically saying that you're never going to harass the enemy mid and you just want a farm lane.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 06 2013 02:06 GMT
#1816
Lissandra's kit is so inherently strong though. If her winrate stays low she will only be a few #s buffs to being strong. She is like morgana or Zyra in a lot of ways. Except with free pushing.
Freeeeeeedom
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 06 2013 02:07 GMT
#1817
On May 06 2013 10:50 sob3k wrote:
welp, looks like lissandra has like a 41% winrate, I guess she's terrible


better buff the shit out her

then we'll start a betting pool on if lissandra or karma gets hotfixed first
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 02:18:19
May 06 2013 02:15 GMT
#1818
I have a feeling Lissandra's winrate is where it's at because people haven't figured out how to play her ideally yet. Her kit is pretty straightforward, but I think people are probably learning when to port in on her E, who to ult, and a lot of other little things. She's not faceroll OP which is good, but I think she is strong with a little bit of nuance.

Edit: In most of the 1v1 scenarios you're going to have minions you can use to extend the range of your Q, I can't think of that many Mid lane scenarios where you're trying to harass and your enemy is constantly far away from minions.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#1819
The trick might be if you're too behind in lane to start levelling E and building pure tank, and just use all the inherrant CC in her kit for teamfighting.

I dunno, I certainly haven't figured her out yet.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 02:36:30
May 06 2013 02:35 GMT
#1820
i remember when people were claiming khazix is bad and nobody played him, then soaz raped top with him in some tourney and suddenly he became op
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