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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 02 2013 04:41 GMT
#741
I'm going to have nightmares over Nunu's new splash art.

Btw in-game Trundle looks ridiculous. Almost makes me wanna get him next.
Forever Young
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35161 Posts
May 02 2013 04:45 GMT
#742
Holy hell look at all those nerfs:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24129-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-5-2-2013
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 04:53:40
May 02 2013 04:50 GMT
#743
On May 02 2013 13:45 Gahlo wrote:
Holy hell look at all those nerfs:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24129-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-5-2-2013


I really hope that Diana nerf doesn't go through. I've been playing her in the jungle and really liking her there, but that shield nerf hits jungle Diana the hardest. She can't really afford a heavy damage assassin build out of the jungle, so I usually opt for a sort of AP bruiser thing instead. Gonna be hard to be tankier with her.

EDIT: Another Nami micro-buff is always welcome though =D
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 02 2013 04:54 GMT
#744
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24129-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-5-2-2013

New datamined notes. Takeaway:

-Shen skin best skin in game
-Zac's base health regen gutted as bad as Riven's was
-Diana shield nerf
-Elise no longer gains reists in spider form
-Galio Q nerfed in damage/slow duration, but less mana and a lower CD at higher ranks. Not sure why this one even needed a change
-Lux Shield changed. I don't want to do math, looks like a nerf overall
-MF impure shots got buffed, because, you know, she's weak right now.
-Nunu Consume gutted in healing, nerfed severely in damage. They really want Nunu to jungle with the new bonuses to eating jungle creeps.
-Not sure how Shyvana's R change affects her, but making E pass through AoE has the capacity to be pretty fucking strong.
-TF ult nerfed at 6 and 11 as far as CD is concerned
-TF E no longer gives CDR?
-Tiger Stance attack no longer transfers to next stance (no "stacking")
-Varus E nerf, Q buff
-Zac ult changed. Each bounce does less damage, but it doesn't look like there is diminishing returns on consecutive bounces (damage wise, still no second knock up). Tenacity lowered to 50%.
It's your boy Guzma!
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 04:58:06
May 02 2013 04:56 GMT
#745
On May 02 2013 13:54 Requizen wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24129-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-5-2-2013

New datamined notes. Takeaway:

-Shen skin best skin in game
-Zac's base health regen gutted as bad as Riven's was
-Diana shield nerf
-Elise no longer gains reists in spider form
-Galio Q nerfed in damage/slow duration, but less mana and a lower CD at higher ranks. Not sure why this one even needed a change
-Lux Shield changed. I don't want to do math, looks like a nerf overall
-MF impure shots got buffed, because, you know, she's weak right now.
-Nunu Consume gutted in healing, nerfed severely in damage. They really want Nunu to jungle with the new bonuses to eating jungle creeps.
-Not sure how Shyvana's R change affects her, but making E pass through AoE has the capacity to be pretty fucking strong.
-TF ult nerfed at 6 and 11 as far as CD is concerned
-TF E no longer gives CDR?
-Tiger Stance attack no longer transfers to next stance (no "stacking")
-Varus E nerf, Q buff
-Zac ult changed. Each bounce does less damage, but it doesn't look like there is diminishing returns on consecutive bounces (damage wise, still no second knock up). Tenacity lowered to 50%.


Lux shield is a straight up nerf, both ap ratio and base value is going down.

Pretty big nerf, but that shield was insane already, she'll be fine.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 05:00:42
May 02 2013 04:56 GMT
#746
On May 02 2013 13:45 Gahlo wrote:
Holy hell look at all those nerfs:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24129-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-5-2-2013

Morello has been hard at work, I see..
+ Show Spoiler +
It can't be just me who wishes they fired him, can it?

Why are they gutting TF.. Because of soloq? I don't care if China has him on almost pick/ban, not even the best NA players can play him properly (and even players like Alex don't play him properly. A champion with this high a skillcap should be surely welcome, no? ...)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 02 2013 04:57 GMT
#747
....for some reason nothing but the skins and random babble shows up on my phone? Can't read the buffs/nerfs. Like they aren't even on the page? o.o;
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 02 2013 04:58 GMT
#748
On May 02 2013 13:57 BlackPaladin wrote:
....for some reason nothing but the skins and random babble shows up on my phone? Can't read the buffs/nerfs. Like they aren't even on the page? o.o;


There's a spoiler tag you have to click, right at the end of the post.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
May 02 2013 05:01 GMT
#749
Courtesy of Voyboy's stream



(Sorry if it's been posted)
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 05:02:02
May 02 2013 05:01 GMT
#750
On May 02 2013 13:56 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 13:54 Requizen wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/24129-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-5-2-2013

New datamined notes. Takeaway:

-Shen skin best skin in game
-Zac's base health regen gutted as bad as Riven's was
-Diana shield nerf
-Elise no longer gains reists in spider form
-Galio Q nerfed in damage/slow duration, but less mana and a lower CD at higher ranks. Not sure why this one even needed a change
-Lux Shield changed. I don't want to do math, looks like a nerf overall
-MF impure shots got buffed, because, you know, she's weak right now.
-Nunu Consume gutted in healing, nerfed severely in damage. They really want Nunu to jungle with the new bonuses to eating jungle creeps.
-Not sure how Shyvana's R change affects her, but making E pass through AoE has the capacity to be pretty fucking strong.
-TF ult nerfed at 6 and 11 as far as CD is concerned
-TF E no longer gives CDR?
-Tiger Stance attack no longer transfers to next stance (no "stacking")
-Varus E nerf, Q buff
-Zac ult changed. Each bounce does less damage, but it doesn't look like there is diminishing returns on consecutive bounces (damage wise, still no second knock up). Tenacity lowered to 50%.


Lux shield is a straight up nerf, both ap ratio and base value is going down.

Pretty big nerf, but that shield was insane already, she'll be fine.


It will completely kill Lux support, which was already kind of an unconventional and arguably bad option (funny since they designed her as a support!). Not as big of a hit for Lux mid, but still huge. Going to hurt her teamfight a lot, prob not so big a deal on her laning.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 05:04:42
May 02 2013 05:03 GMT
#751
What the fuck...

They nerfed Shyvana. That E change guts her dueling quite a bit. And I dont uinderstand why they make her R only move one person now too. Like... Wut?

Why?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 02 2013 05:05 GMT
#752
On May 02 2013 13:58 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 13:57 BlackPaladin wrote:
....for some reason nothing but the skins and random babble shows up on my phone? Can't read the buffs/nerfs. Like they aren't even on the page? o.o;


There's a spoiler tag you have to click, right at the end of the post.

That spoiler button apparently took my phone 5 mins to load, gg
Thanks zzz x_x
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 02 2013 05:05 GMT
#753
The base values for her shield (especially level 1) is waaay to strong.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
May 02 2013 05:09 GMT
#754
http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/marn-takes-travis-gafford-on-a-tour-of-the-team-mrn-gaming-house-6407840/

Yeee Ecco rockin' that hoodie.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
May 02 2013 05:09 GMT
#755
On May 02 2013 14:03 iCanada wrote:
What the fuck...

They nerfed Shyvana. That E change guts her dueling quite a bit. And I dont uinderstand why they make her R only move one person now too. Like... Wut?

Why?


Honestly, that R change seems like a buff when you consider how inconsistent it is normally at actually moving its target.

Also, that E change is still kind of up in the air. It got a damage nerf and lost the armor shred, but now it marks the target " with cinders". We don't really know what that means yet.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 02 2013 05:11 GMT
#756
AD Twisted Fate yeahhhhhhhhhh!
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 02 2013 05:14 GMT
#757
On May 02 2013 13:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 12:34 sob3k wrote:
On May 02 2013 11:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I tried getting a custom Viktor phone cover, but they wouldn't print it because of copyright infringement or something


On a related note I hear Viktor is real good Vs Lissandra. Outrange her and every time she uses ice claw you can drop gravity field right on it and be like "bitch, I dare you to blink in this".

So what happens if she calls your bluff and blinks in, roots you, and then Rs herself on 2 stacks?


Well if you're low enough to die in a combo you wouldn't stick around in lane or next to her claw...If you have enough health to survive then you QER back and do far more damage.


On May 02 2013 13:07 ticklishmusic wrote:
Random question, would support Viktor be semi-ok?

I'm thinking basically you just spam Q, and the shield mitigates trading damage, use W as your cc, E can poke/check bushes and be used for extra damage. Ult is just regular old ult.


Q is shit range, you'd eat a ton of free damage trying to get close enough to use it, plus its shield time is slow so it wont block fast projectiles, and the shield isn't much anyway, so you'd take a ton of damage running back too. Also spamming Q requires a chalice worth of regen.

E costs fuckton of mana, so you couldn't really use it, plus most of its damage comes from .91 scaling.

W is pretty crappy CC in lane, short range with long cast time. It only shines in teamfights.

It would be bad.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 05:18:09
May 02 2013 05:14 GMT
#758
On May 02 2013 14:09 Cheap0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 14:03 iCanada wrote:
What the fuck...

They nerfed Shyvana. That E change guts her dueling quite a bit. And I dont uinderstand why they make her R only move one person now too. Like... Wut?

Why?


Honestly, that R change seems like a buff when you consider how inconsistent it is normally at actually moving its target.

Also, that E change is still kind of up in the air. It got a damage nerf and lost the armor shred, but now it marks the target " with cinders". We don't really know what that means yet.


I dunno, their general philosophy with tooltips has always been change to show more/make more accurate.

Changing armor shred to cinders just seems... like they removing onhit effect entirely. Look at half the changes in the patch, they all making tooltip more precise/accurate/easy to understand.

The big reason I dont like the change is it hurts Top Shyv a lot, which is what I think Shyvana is better suited for. Means they want to have Shy jungle, which she just not suited for at a competitive level.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 02 2013 05:18 GMT
#759
Wow. I don't even know if that rumble change is a nerf if it deals 1.5x damage in danger zone.

TF nerfs expected,

Nunu change is.....interesting.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 05:19:02
May 02 2013 05:18 GMT
#760
I don't follow the LoL scene practically at all, but is there a reason why I've been seeing lots of Nunu tops on pro/ high-level streams today?

Because I f-ing love Nunu, and this makes me excited.

Like I see something changed to him this patch, but I have no idea what it means.
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