EPTI think, regardless of the stats, BotRK is now stupid easy to build. Nothing costs more than 650 in it. I think the build path should be changed to Cutlass + Recurve and adjust max price accordingly.
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Gahlo
United States35130 Posts
I think, regardless of the stats, BotRK is now stupid easy to build. Nothing costs more than 650 in it. I think the build path should be changed to Cutlass + Recurve and adjust max price accordingly. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 03 2013 08:51 Gahlo wrote: I was able to get in, took a little longer than usual but, I'm in. I think, regardless of the stats, BotRK is now stupid easy to build. Nothing costs more than 650 in it. I think the build path should be changed to Cutlass + Recurve and adjust max price accordingly. Just built it as Jax against Elise (pretty bad, he waited level 4 to start Qing me, and even then let me get to 6 pretty much unscathed right before him andd all-in him to get 20cs advantage... ), I felt really weak with only a Negatron and Cutlass. I know the item's been nerfed to reduce its cost, but still, I actually didn't even notice it when I used the active on her, except for a slight slow, and felt like I'd manage to lose auto trades with her spider form despite the lifesteal and Jax's huge base damage. (Can't really tell about the BotRK, she ran everytime she didn't have ignite and I started having 250+ms lag spikes, then they surrendered at 20 because 4v5. The Cutlass really felt a huge difference from pre-patch though.) | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
I didn't see any Vi's buying it at all. Most just build Razor's and leave it there. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On March 03 2013 09:16 EquilasH wrote: I didn't see any Vi's buying it at all. Most just build Razor's and leave it there. E AoE proc spread the dot. I've always seen Vi's rush that along with either lock/brut/mogs. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On March 03 2013 09:16 EquilasH wrote: I didn't see any Vi's buying it at all. Most just build Razor's and leave it there. It was XJ9's standard build on Vi, so I guess a lot of people copied him. It's probably better on Hecarim, but Vi also has pretty good AoE application of the DoT with her E. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On March 03 2013 06:43 arb wrote: People crying over skins making the game harder really hurt my brain life must be hard if you have to live 24/7 with a brain that hurts at the idea it annoys ppl when skins give an advantage | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On March 03 2013 08:35 Gahlo wrote: "Pink Nexus is currently in beta and still under development. Not all champions are available." I read that, thank you, though I understand you might not have realized it. I like giving people the benefit of doubt and in this case I thought maybe Phunk knew more about this website than I did from the few minutes I looked at it. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On March 03 2013 06:43 arb wrote: People crying over skins making the game harder really hurt my brain I don't really get that. And it's not about making the game harder. WTF?! It's about giving one person an advantage and the other a disadvantage. And when you say it like that in general, wouldn't you have a problem with a skin where you can't see the skillshots? You act like it's nothing when the visibility of skills can obviously have a big influence on the power level / balance of a champ. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On March 03 2013 09:44 AsnSensation wrote: oddone seems to be spamming jungle taric games for anyone interested. Lies, hes doing Xin jungle atm. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
it was banned against him | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On the other hand, champions like Orianna was only decried as weak because of lowbie players who absolutely had no idea how MOBA's worked. Champions like Orianna, Jayce, Irelia and Zed were considered quite powerful by higher level players at initial release. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On March 03 2013 10:00 Keniji wrote: I don't really get that. And it's not about making the game harder. WTF?! It's about giving one person an advantage and the other a disadvantage. And when you say it like that in general, wouldn't you have a problem with a skin where you can't see the skillshots? You act like it's nothing when the visibility of skills can obviously have a big influence on the power level / balance of a champ. agreed. things like the fireworks corki skin or underworld tf where the skill shots don't travel the same are really offsetting to me. things like sivir boomerang in one of her skins also makes it harder than usual to see. i also hear a lot of complaints about the lux skin too. On March 03 2013 10:21 KissBlade wrote: BTW, I'm actually going to point out a counterargument to the whole "People complain about OP champions that look weak on release" and then cite Rengar, Riven, Vi as examples. Those champions were weak on release because of their animations or gameplay that did make them legitimately weak. Their kit on paper was overall strong. Notice that on release, all of those champions had something in common: their kit would make them move and combo extremely clunky due to their "self stun". Renekton actually suffers this as well in his w but he's just so well rounded in his overall kit that it doesn't make as much of a difference. jayce is another example you should add since he was played A LOT after animation fixes and not as much before | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On March 03 2013 10:21 KissBlade wrote: BTW, I'm actually going to point out a counterargument to the whole "People complain about OP champions that look weak on release" and then cite Rengar, Riven, Vi as examples. Those champions were weak on release because of their animations or gameplay that did make them legitimately weak. Their kit on paper was overall strong. Notice that on release, all of those champions had something in common: their kit would make them move and combo extremely clunky due to their "self stun". Renekton actually suffers this as well in his w but he's just so well rounded in his overall kit that it doesn't make as much of a difference. I'm sure you could give just as many examples of champions who were considered weak on release who ended up just being weak too. Or who got so many buffs that eventually they got pretty good. Also Quinn's kit doesn't look good on paper. I dunno if your post was in reference to Quinn at all and I would agree that it's still too early to tell if she's good or bad but several people, myself included, said that her kit seems bad for an AD carry and thus far it seems to be true. Maybe she's good in a solo lane or maybe people just don't know how to play her yet but her kit and what I've seen of her leads me to believe she's not that great. Also Riven and Rengar at least got more than just animation changes they got straight buffs too lol. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
"YOU DON'T"- Saint. lol. All this Botrk rush on ADC making me shake my head real hard... | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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