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Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
March 02 2013 20:19 GMT
#461
Irelia with BotRK and Zephyr is damn strong.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#462
I've figured out why I'm depressed with current LCS all around.

No one has built hydra yet.
One of my favorite season 3 item; but no one builds it. If only DNG was in LCS... I'd be able to see Kris's Hydra Shen.
liftlift > tsm
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 20:44:48
March 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#463
^ seriously, just got destroyed by one. Might play her in ranked just to hurry up and get to D1 again lol.

On Quinn: Man his midgame is terrible. Like, too squishy to duel someone bursty and can't out-trade most people in a long fight. Damage seems really gimp even with botrk. Haven't even been able to get to endgame because I either get too fed off early game and they surrender at 20, or they destroy me midgame and we lose every teamfight.

I'm not sure what it is, maybe I'm building him wrong. But I feel his damage is really lackluster out of 1v1 scenarios. Reminds me of trist's powercurve.

Edit: That, and his ulti is damn useless for about anything except getting away. The delay on re-casting it for the damage part is too long, and if you're in melee range with no defenses you're gonna get boned.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 20:49:27
March 02 2013 20:46 GMT
#464
So jungle Jax might be able to be a thing with BOTRK (Just went something like 20/0/xx). Play XJ9 style, and since BOTRK is like 1/2 the price of TF you become scary so much sooner (I had 0 kills and 2 assists by the time I got Cutlass and started snowballing).

On March 03 2013 05:19 Ghost-z wrote:
Irelia with BotRK and Zephyr is damn strong.


Rush or with a Giant's belt in between?
Freeeeeeedom
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
March 02 2013 20:52 GMT
#465
On March 03 2013 01:32 Ketara wrote:
What's that website that lets you math out DPS calculations for different ADC's with different item builds?

I know one exists but I can't find the URL.


Ask Mr Robot?
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 02 2013 21:06 GMT
#466
God dammit....why did they nerf Spirit of the Elder Lizard? It was a jungler item the junglers were getting. What was wrong with that?
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
March 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#467
armor pen reds and AD quints is more effective than the other way around, correct?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 02 2013 21:21 GMT
#468
yes
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 02 2013 21:28 GMT
#469
On March 03 2013 06:06 GettingIt wrote:
God dammit....why did they nerf Spirit of the Elder Lizard? It was a jungler item the junglers were getting. What was wrong with that?


laners got it too :D
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
March 02 2013 21:32 GMT
#470
On March 03 2013 05:52 JALbert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 01:32 Ketara wrote:
What's that website that lets you math out DPS calculations for different ADC's with different item builds?

I know one exists but I can't find the URL.


Ask Mr Robot?


http://pinknexus.com/
"Do a barrel roll"
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 02 2013 21:42 GMT
#471
On March 03 2013 06:06 GettingIt wrote:
God dammit....why did they nerf Spirit of the Elder Lizard? It was a jungler item the junglers were getting. What was wrong with that?


Blame Hecarim.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 02 2013 21:43 GMT
#472
On March 03 2013 02:58 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 02:54 Keniji wrote:
I'm all for riot making beautiful skins, and they are getting better and better at this.

but it's really going to be a problem if they continue altering skill shots in a way that they are much harder to see (lux, iblitz)

Do they not notice this in testing, or do they not care, or am I just blind and need to get used to it (which is probably problematic, too, considering how often you see a specific skin)


I don't see a problem. It's such a minuscule problem compared to side imbalances.

People crying over skins making the game harder really hurt my brain
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 02 2013 21:56 GMT
#473
On March 03 2013 06:06 GettingIt wrote:
God dammit....why did they nerf Spirit of the Elder Lizard? It was a jungler item the junglers were getting. What was wrong with that?

Champs that apply DOTs like Hec were doing absurd amounts of damage since it was reapplying the Elder Lizard on every proc. They didn't overdue it though, still worth buying.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 02 2013 22:03 GMT
#474
--- Nuked ---
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 22:05:50
March 02 2013 22:05 GMT
#475
Edit: Wrong Thread.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
March 02 2013 22:12 GMT
#476
On March 03 2013 06:42 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 06:06 GettingIt wrote:
God dammit....why did they nerf Spirit of the Elder Lizard? It was a jungler item the junglers were getting. What was wrong with that?


Blame Hecarim.


And Vi.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
March 02 2013 22:23 GMT
#477
On March 03 2013 05:19 Ghost-z wrote:
Irelia with BotRK and Zephyr is damn strong.

i remember seeing this in a game last patch where the guy went 2 dorans botrk and zephyr, copied it and it's honestly the only fucking way i ever could play irelia (i was trash at her if i didn't build her all offense). should be stronger now too lool
BW -> League -> CSGO
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 23:28:12
March 02 2013 23:26 GMT
#478
On March 03 2013 05:52 JALbert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 01:32 Ketara wrote:
What's that website that lets you math out DPS calculations for different ADC's with different item builds?

I know one exists but I can't find the URL.


Ask Mr Robot?


I don't like ask mr robot... Everything it does is based on 1v1 math and time-to-kill which I find of questionable use for an ADC in a team fight where targets are in and out all the time and the space you get to DPS is highly variable. Even the DPS feature still maths it out based on a 1v1 and incorporates overkill in odd ways which means that by gaining or losing a level or the target gaining or losing 10 armor/mr you can get differences in DPS of up to 20% (though it's usually 10%). This makes comparing builds very annoying since a 10% difference could just be a fluke of the simulation unless you play around with the sliders a bunch.

As a result I prefer just to math out the best pure DPS path for myself and modify it in-game based on my defensive needs and where the game is.

On March 03 2013 06:32 Phunkapotamus wrote:
http://pinknexus.com/


This site's layout is really weird... and I'm not sure why equipping damage items like BF sword don't increase my combined damage per second but sunfire cape does. Seems really incomplete, or maybe my browser is broken.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 02 2013 23:35 GMT
#479
On March 03 2013 08:26 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 05:52 JALbert wrote:
On March 03 2013 01:32 Ketara wrote:
What's that website that lets you math out DPS calculations for different ADC's with different item builds?

I know one exists but I can't find the URL.


Ask Mr Robot?


I don't like ask mr robot... Everything it does is based on 1v1 math and time-to-kill which I find of questionable use for an ADC in a team fight where targets are in and out all the time and the space you get to DPS is highly variable. Even the DPS feature still maths it out based on a 1v1 and incorporates overkill in odd ways which means that by gaining or losing a level or the target gaining or losing 10 armor/mr you can get differences in DPS of up to 20% (though it's usually 10%). This makes comparing builds very annoying since a 10% difference could just be a fluke of the simulation unless you play around with the sliders a bunch.

As a result I prefer just to math out the best pure DPS path for myself and modify it in-game based on my defensive needs and where the game is.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 06:32 Phunkapotamus wrote:
http://pinknexus.com/


This site's layout is really weird... and I'm not sure why equipping damage items like BF sword don't increase my combined damage per second but sunfire cape does. Seems really incomplete, or maybe my browser is broken.


"Pink Nexus is currently in beta and still under development. Not all champions are available."
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
March 02 2013 23:50 GMT
#480
Anyone else not able to log in on NA?
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