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Craton
United States17281 Posts
You've got an enormous amount of people who all agree that it is. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
Riot Dev and Riot QA/Live Balance are VERY different entities. You desperately need to learn how to draw conclusions that are actually supported, rather than making specious leaps in logic. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote: Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such. So I haven't heard of anyone who says the new skins are EASIER to see, while I and many others think they are harder to see, which in fact makes them harder to see. there is nothing to argue about. the only way you could say is that they are not that much harder to see so it isn't an issue, but i don't think so either. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote: Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such. That isn't really saying much though, as Riot has clearly backed off their own 'opinions' by making quick changes of things that were just released. Clearly they don't take their internal testing/observation as gospel. As such, it's not ridiculous at all(in fact, precedent exists to think the opposite is true) to believe the playerbase will have different experiences/observation than Riot. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
I feel like she needs to be tried top lane or something because her kit is just not useful for an AD. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:29 upperbound wrote: Quinn seems like she may be the weakest at-release champion Riot has ever made. Crap lane phase, can't even keep up -- never mind carry -- when fed. Maybe people will figure out something that they don't know now but her gameplay seems pretty straightforward, just bad. I feel like she needs to be tried top lane or something because her kit is just not useful for an AD. When a champion seems like a worse version of Teemo something's wrong. Or well, can compare to graves who's got similiar range: Burst comparison: lol Escape comparison: Graves's is better in most situations Blind comparison: Graves is better Steroid comparison: Graves is better Durability: Graves is better Farming: Graves is better Chasing a fleeing champion on flat ground that doesn't jump over walls: Quinn is better Disclaimer: haven't played a single game with Quinn | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:29 upperbound wrote: Quinn seems like she may be the weakest at-release champion Riot has ever made. I'm assuming you started playing relatively recently? Didn't experience some of the early releases? Edit: I don't even think Quinn seems weak, but even if I did, there were some seriously god awful champions released in this game's history, she'd have to be really, really bad to be in that list. Shikyo wrote: When a champion seems like a worse version of Teemo something's wrong. What? She is nothing like Teemo. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote: Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such. Which is why certain skins are banned in competitive play...like the Lux skin. | ||
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HughMyron
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote: Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such. I dunno if that's true though... cuz Riot did ban certain skins in LCS... The one that bugs me the most in terms of visuals is the new corki skin; the gattling gun is sort of hard to keep track of; since it looks more like animation coming out of the ground; rather than lines being sourced by corki's front. On March 03 2013 04:00 HughMyron wrote: What's the consensus on Kayle? Overnerfed into garbage or still playable? Should be playable still; she can still shove waves very quickly, has more utility now (55% slow is quite a bit...). The only major change is her ability to 1v1 is lower; but you rarely picked kayle for the 1v1 prowess anyways... | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 03 2013 04:00 HughMyron wrote: What's the consensus on Kayle? Overnerfed into garbage or still playable? Situationally it's actually a (huge)buff, because you can get an extra auto attack or two because of the increased slow and faster projectile speed, and 100% more damage(extra attack) > 6-11%. Hardly nerfed into oblivion though, she still absolutely wrecks with her build(and the new BotRK is sexy for her too), and will probably still be a common pick/ban for her utility(ult) on top of her damage. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Her auto procs both BotRK and Liandrys for a total of 17% current health per swing. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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UniversalSnip
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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