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[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 23

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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 02 2013 18:07 GMT
#441
Based on...?

You've got an enormous amount of people who all agree that it is.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 02 2013 18:08 GMT
#442
Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 18:11:12
March 02 2013 18:10 GMT
#443
The fact that you don't have a harder time seeing it does not mean it isn't harder to see.

Riot Dev and Riot QA/Live Balance are VERY different entities.

You desperately need to learn how to draw conclusions that are actually supported, rather than making specious leaps in logic.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 02 2013 18:11 GMT
#444
Well agree to disagree then, guess everyone needs something to complain about.
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 18:22:33
March 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#445
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote:
Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such.


So I haven't heard of anyone who says the new skins are EASIER to see, while I and many others think they are harder to see, which in fact makes them harder to see.

there is nothing to argue about.

the only way you could say is that they are not that much harder to see so it isn't an issue, but i don't think so either.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 02 2013 18:27 GMT
#446
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote:
Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such.


That isn't really saying much though, as Riot has clearly backed off their own 'opinions' by making quick changes of things that were just released. Clearly they don't take their internal testing/observation as gospel. As such, it's not ridiculous at all(in fact, precedent exists to think the opposite is true) to believe the playerbase will have different experiences/observation than Riot.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 02 2013 18:29 GMT
#447
Garen's new skin is easier to see, he's impossible to ignore because he's so visually distracting. I don't think that's a good thing though.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
March 02 2013 18:29 GMT
#448
Quinn seems like she may be the weakest at-release champion Riot has ever made. Crap lane phase, can't even keep up -- never mind carry -- when fed. Maybe people will figure out something that they don't know now but her gameplay seems pretty straightforward, just bad.

I feel like she needs to be tried top lane or something because her kit is just not useful for an AD.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 18:42:57
March 02 2013 18:33 GMT
#449
On March 03 2013 03:29 upperbound wrote:
Quinn seems like she may be the weakest at-release champion Riot has ever made. Crap lane phase, can't even keep up -- never mind carry -- when fed. Maybe people will figure out something that they don't know now but her gameplay seems pretty straightforward, just bad.

I feel like she needs to be tried top lane or something because her kit is just not useful for an AD.

When a champion seems like a worse version of Teemo something's wrong.


Or well, can compare to graves who's got similiar range:

Burst comparison: lol

Escape comparison: Graves's is better in most situations

Blind comparison: Graves is better

Steroid comparison: Graves is better

Durability: Graves is better

Farming: Graves is better

Chasing a fleeing champion on flat ground that doesn't jump over walls: Quinn is better



Disclaimer: haven't played a single game with Quinn
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 02 2013 18:47 GMT
#450
Quinn's steroid can have a near-100% uptime if she keeps attacking targets affected by her passive (its cd drops to 3s if she procs it and should target the champ she's attacking, and the steroid lasts 3s).
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 18:54:34
March 02 2013 18:51 GMT
#451
On March 03 2013 03:29 upperbound wrote:
Quinn seems like she may be the weakest at-release champion Riot has ever made.


I'm assuming you started playing relatively recently? Didn't experience some of the early releases?

Edit: I don't even think Quinn seems weak, but even if I did, there were some seriously god awful champions released in this game's history, she'd have to be really, really bad to be in that list.

Shikyo wrote:
When a champion seems like a worse version of Teemo something's wrong.


What? She is nothing like Teemo.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#452
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote:
Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such.


Which is why certain skins are banned in competitive play...like the Lux skin.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
HughMyron
Profile Joined April 2012
297 Posts
March 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#453
What's the consensus on Kayle? Overnerfed into garbage or still playable?
Platinum III, Kayle/Janna/Ashe Fanboy, HUEHUEHUE
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
March 02 2013 19:06 GMT
#454
Did anyone experience this before? The other team picked Thresh and after 2 cycles of picks the Thresh portrait turn into a Blitzcrank.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 19:14:04
March 02 2013 19:11 GMT
#455
On March 03 2013 03:08 Zdrastochye wrote:
Idk how I prove that I have no problems seeing abilities, and I must share that opinion with Riot, seeing as they released the champs as such.

I dunno if that's true though... cuz Riot did ban certain skins in LCS...

The one that bugs me the most in terms of visuals is the new corki skin; the gattling gun is sort of hard to keep track of; since it looks more like animation coming out of the ground; rather than lines being sourced by corki's front.

On March 03 2013 04:00 HughMyron wrote:
What's the consensus on Kayle? Overnerfed into garbage or still playable?

Should be playable still; she can still shove waves very quickly, has more utility now (55% slow is quite a bit...). The only major change is her ability to 1v1 is lower; but you rarely picked kayle for the 1v1 prowess anyways...
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 02 2013 19:22 GMT
#456
On March 03 2013 04:00 HughMyron wrote:
What's the consensus on Kayle? Overnerfed into garbage or still playable?


Situationally it's actually a (huge)buff, because you can get an extra auto attack or two because of the increased slow and faster projectile speed, and 100% more damage(extra attack) > 6-11%. Hardly nerfed into oblivion though, she still absolutely wrecks with her build(and the new BotRK is sexy for her too), and will probably still be a common pick/ban for her utility(ult) on top of her damage.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 02 2013 19:24 GMT
#457
We had a TROLLS game yesterday with a Kayle who went Nashors -> BotRK -> Liandrys and tore the shit out of the entire enemy team.

Her auto procs both BotRK and Liandrys for a total of 17% current health per swing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
March 02 2013 19:43 GMT
#458
That is mix pen % dmg also. pretty insane.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 02 2013 19:48 GMT
#459
That's just botrk making everything look good
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 02 2013 19:52 GMT
#460
Don't underestimate BotRKs active either, I had a game where I escaped a gank I'd have surely died to with the BotRK active giving me a nice chunk of health and a billion movespeed and a slow.
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