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On March 03 2013 02:02 Mazzi wrote:
Quinn is terrible as an adc, The range is really bad and every time someone picks her on my team i cringe. Becuase they all go negatives n we lose
Vayne has terrible range and yet shes still considered a decent adc. Give people time holy fuck she hasnt been out 24 hours yet and people are already making rash decisions. Do you not remember last time this happened and Rengar got buffed to OP as hell levels
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On March 03 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:02 Mazzi wrote:
Quinn is terrible as an adc, The range is really bad and every time someone picks her on my team i cringe. Becuase they all go negatives n we lose Vayne has terrible range and yet shes still considered a decent adc. Give people time holy fuck she hasnt been out 24 hours yet and people are already making rash decisions. Do you not remember last time this happened and Rengar got buffed to OP as hell levels
Vayne is great
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On March 03 2013 02:22 Mazzi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:On March 03 2013 02:02 Mazzi wrote:
Quinn is terrible as an adc, The range is really bad and every time someone picks her on my team i cringe. Becuase they all go negatives n we lose Vayne has terrible range and yet shes still considered a decent adc. Give people time holy fuck she hasnt been out 24 hours yet and people are already making rash decisions. Do you not remember last time this happened and Rengar got buffed to OP as hell levels Vayne is great
Probably because people aren't comfortable with her yet?
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Salce had some success today with Quinn mid. She has a lot to gain from solo levels (passive does a ton of damage) and in mid lane she can ult to any other lane for really fast roaming. So if you can make it work I think solo will be better for her.
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On March 03 2013 02:22 Mazzi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:On March 03 2013 02:02 Mazzi wrote:
Quinn is terrible as an adc, The range is really bad and every time someone picks her on my team i cringe. Becuase they all go negatives n we lose Vayne has terrible range and yet shes still considered a decent adc. Give people time holy fuck she hasnt been out 24 hours yet and people are already making rash decisions. Do you not remember last time this happened and Rengar got buffed to OP as hell levels Vayne is great
And so is Quinn probably but arguing that shes bad because she has shorter range makes her bad is stupid. Give people some time to figure out what the hell her kit is all about and how she needs to be played. Its kinda stupid to say not even 24 hours after shes released that shes bad is rather rash. If a month from now no one is playing her and shes still getting shit on by everyone and everything then itd be a better time to call her bad, but not now
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I didint say Quinn is terrible overall. Just that she isnt an ADC, she seems a better mid/top/jungler
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On March 03 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:02 Mazzi wrote:
Quinn is terrible as an adc, The range is really bad and every time someone picks her on my team i cringe. Becuase they all go negatives n we lose Vayne has terrible range and yet shes still considered a decent adc. Give people time holy fuck she hasnt been out 24 hours yet and people are already making rash decisions. Do you not remember last time this happened and Rengar got buffed to OP as hell levels
that's a really bad comparison. Firstly, Quinn has 25 less range than vayne putting her on the level of Sivir-bad and she doesn't have anything that qualifies her as a lategame hypercarry either. She doesn't even have an escape while Vayne has tumble+stealth.
I think her kit is fun, probably soloQ only and Sololanes will probably be more succesful for her, her E is a nice skill, which I would still max last though lol.
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On March 03 2013 02:36 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:On March 03 2013 02:02 Mazzi wrote:
Quinn is terrible as an adc, The range is really bad and every time someone picks her on my team i cringe. Becuase they all go negatives n we lose Vayne has terrible range and yet shes still considered a decent adc. Give people time holy fuck she hasnt been out 24 hours yet and people are already making rash decisions. Do you not remember last time this happened and Rengar got buffed to OP as hell levels that's a really bad comparison. Firstly, Quinn has 25 less range than vayne putting her on the level of Sivir-bad and she doesn't have anything that qualifies her as a lategame hypercarry either. She doesn't even have an escape while Vayne has tumble+stealth. I think her kit is fun, probably soloQ only and Sololanes will probably be more succesful for her, her E is a nice skill, which I would still max last though lol.
Vault/Valor are escapes. She isn't intended to be a hypercarry.
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ooh, smash was in the champ spotlight
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On March 03 2013 02:32 Mazzi wrote:
I didint say Quinn is terrible overall. Just that she isnt an ADC, she seems a better mid/top/jungler
She probably will end up being a better top laner. Her ult provides her nothing for teamfighting as an adc, as you'd want to position yourself (and not be a meleer) when building straight damage. I really wouldn't be surprised if she's played solo instead of as an adc.
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On March 03 2013 00:42 Mensol wrote:
i hope they fix iblitzcrank's grab as fast as possible. It's really annoying to play against it.
I played against one and it look much smoother than usual? is the animation changed or something, explain more =0
Btw, Bliz jungle with movement5 boots, oerdrive and lulu's speed movement was hilariously fast!
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Personally I think Quinn will be best as an AD mid.
Her ganks are real strong, as is her dueling.
Teamfight seems to be where she's lacking.
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On March 03 2013 02:38 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:36 AsnSensation wrote:On March 03 2013 02:17 Kyhron wrote:On March 03 2013 02:02 Mazzi wrote:
Quinn is terrible as an adc, The range is really bad and every time someone picks her on my team i cringe. Becuase they all go negatives n we lose Vayne has terrible range and yet shes still considered a decent adc. Give people time holy fuck she hasnt been out 24 hours yet and people are already making rash decisions. Do you not remember last time this happened and Rengar got buffed to OP as hell levels that's a really bad comparison. Firstly, Quinn has 25 less range than vayne putting her on the level of Sivir-bad and she doesn't have anything that qualifies her as a lategame hypercarry either. She doesn't even have an escape while Vayne has tumble+stealth. I think her kit is fun, probably soloQ only and Sololanes will probably be more succesful for her, her E is a nice skill, which I would still max last though lol. Vault/Valor are escapes. She isn't intended to be a hypercarry.
Obviously, but her whole kit feels meh dmg wise and she has nothing going for her in the lategame cause 525 range.
She loses the conventional botlanes super hard, that's why I said I see potential for mid/top
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I'm all for riot making beautiful skins, and they are getting better and better at this.
but it's really going to be a problem if they continue altering skill shots in a way that they are much harder to see (lux, iblitz)
Do they not notice this in testing, or do they not care, or am I just blind and need to get used to it (which is probably problematic, too, considering how often you see a specific skin)
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On March 03 2013 02:54 Keniji wrote:
I'm all for riot making beautiful skins, and they are getting better and better at this.
but it's really going to be a problem if they continue altering skill shots in a way that they are much harder to see (lux, iblitz)
Do they not notice this in testing, or do they not care, or am I just blind and need to get used to it (which is probably problematic, too, considering how often you see a specific skin)
I don't see a problem. It's such a minuscule problem compared to side imbalances.
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On March 03 2013 02:32 Mazzi wrote:
I didint say Quinn is terrible overall. Just that she isnt an ADC, she seems a better mid/top/jungler
Your lane doesn't determine your role. You can go somewhere other than the duo lane and still be an AD Carry.
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On March 03 2013 02:38 Abenson wrote:
ooh, smash was in the champ spotlight
Been in other ones too iirc.
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On March 03 2013 03:01 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:32 Mazzi wrote:
I didint say Quinn is terrible overall. Just that she isnt an ADC, she seems a better mid/top/jungler Your lane doesn't determine your role. You can go somewhere other than the duo lane and still be an AD Carry.
Good luck with that
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On March 03 2013 02:58 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:54 Keniji wrote:
I'm all for riot making beautiful skins, and they are getting better and better at this.
but it's really going to be a problem if they continue altering skill shots in a way that they are much harder to see (lux, iblitz)
Do they not notice this in testing, or do they not care, or am I just blind and need to get used to it (which is probably problematic, too, considering how often you see a specific skin) I don't see a problem. It's such a minuscule problem compared to side imbalances.
The presence of other / more severe problems does not mean you ignore other issues. It's much easier to fix hard to see graphics (read: pretty trivial) than it is to deal with something like map symmetry.
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On March 03 2013 03:02 Mazzi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 03:01 Seuss wrote:On March 03 2013 02:32 Mazzi wrote:
I didint say Quinn is terrible overall. Just that she isnt an ADC, she seems a better mid/top/jungler Your lane doesn't determine your role. You can go somewhere other than the duo lane and still be an AD Carry. Good luck with that
What he's saying is right on a pro scene sense, but not in a solo queue sense.
On March 03 2013 03:05 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 02:58 Zdrastochye wrote:On March 03 2013 02:54 Keniji wrote:
I'm all for riot making beautiful skins, and they are getting better and better at this.
but it's really going to be a problem if they continue altering skill shots in a way that they are much harder to see (lux, iblitz)
Do they not notice this in testing, or do they not care, or am I just blind and need to get used to it (which is probably problematic, too, considering how often you see a specific skin) I don't see a problem. It's such a minuscule problem compared to side imbalances. The presence of other / more severe problems does not mean you ignore other issues. It's much easier to fix hard to see graphics (read: pretty trivial) than it is to deal with something like map symmetry.
It's also not true that it's "harder" to see new Lux and Blitz's abilities. I just figured I'd point out something else.
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