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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
you guys are getting way too butthurt about dumb arguments about which game is better and which game is harder blah blah if its fun complex and interesting who cares LoL is definitely casual and easy to play but so are shit like board games including chess and go which are immensely respected and complex | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On the flipside, we here aren't very appreciative and there are many people who will bring up the past and random useless shit like "This guy has 0.0 achievements in his esport career (except bw) and still makes with his stupid personality a living out of esport.". Comments like these don't aid in fixing that bridge, they only aid in burning it. He's entitled to his opinion, and we are, but to bring up something that only aids in flaming the other party, then how's anyone gonna take you seriously? But at the end of the day, no one's gonna admit they were wrong. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:47 onlywonderboy wrote: I think he just let the ragers get to him, there were plenty of people in that thread trying to have an actual discussion but he seemed to ignore them and focus on the people that were shit-talking. Yeah, I wish I could speak to how it must feel to be taking the shit that pro-players (and inc in particular) take day after day after day. Maybe then I wouldn't feel annoyed that he cut out when the natural forum backlash occurred. But again, it really isn't my place to say how he might feel about our reactions. Or whatever forum reactions for that matter. Sigh. It's just unfortunate that it has to happen at all. Assertions or w/e about LoL, backlash from fans or just loud ppl, w/e, and then the pros impression that we're a bunch of rabies-ridden assholes. None of it's right and none of it's good. It's just what happens. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:45 AsmodeusXI wrote: He did on the EG thread. It wasn't pretty. I wish we could be more reasonable about these things, but the fact is that they weren't entirely reasonable either. And yet no one is willing to apologize and they have the thousands of viewers to hear them talk about it so that's a thing I guess. Well I see people who can't refrain theirselves from telling Incontrol that he is a shitty SC2 player like it has anything to do with the discussion at hand so I'm not sure we really discussed in the best way with him when he came to that thread but whatever. Just saying, I never really liked EG nor Incontrol, but we didn't really welcomed as we should have. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
what we really need is some kind of video comparison to show their turnaround between the high-five incident and whatever was said on the last itg. As far as the LoL is less complicated argument: it doesn't fly for sc2 because of the whole team aspect, yeah. But if we're talking dota 2... I mean, I certainly think the pro dota 2 scene produces much more diverse/interesting/watchable games than the LoL one just beacuse of the nature of the game. The thing is, LoL is way more consistently fun than dota 2, so it's what I play. But I'll watch a dota 2 tournament over a LoL tournament anyday. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
There were many people in that thread with some solid and fair points, yet he was able to look past all of them and pick out the ones that were intended to make him angry. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
They need to base, but do it in in front of tower in the middle of lane, get spell thrown at them and stay in lane anyways. Is this because a) they're lazy or b) baiting out that use of mana is "worth it"? Whenever I need to recall because of mana or buying or how the lane is pushing I always do it in a safe place so I don't end up wasting my time being interrupted. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:47 onlywonderboy wrote: I think he just let the ragers get to him, there were plenty of people in that thread trying to have an actual discussion but he seemed to ignore them and focus on the people that were shit-talking. TBH, there was shit-talking to do with such messages. He doesn't realize how stupid some of his statements were. | ||
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Shadowpostin
Germany798 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:55 NeoIllusions wrote: I'll listen to the podcast later tonight and address a response to iNc on behalf of TL LoL later tonight. I don't see why you should... If he did or did not flame LoL at any point is completely irrelevant because he has 0 clue about the game so who cares in the end really about his opinion?If he wants to show genuine interest and start playing it for fun(which I find highly unlikely that he would come out into the public with it since he would just get more hate from the sc2 side) than be my guest,if not than just ignore him,he isn't a part of this community and never will be most likely. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On January 31 2013 04:03 TheYango wrote: The one thing that bothers me about these kinds of discussions on TL outside of our subforum is that there end up being a lot of LoL players that don't post/participate on our subforum that shit-talk/flame/write poorly-thought-out responses to those threads that invite a poor impression of TL LoL. They're not active members of TL LoL, but they create a poorer impression of us because they're on TL and they play LoL. Yes this exactly. It's quite sad because considering the amount of knowledge and quality poster in this subforum, like you Yango, I'm sure the discussion could be really fruitful. And Roffles you are right. Sometime you got to take ten minute to explain someone what he did/think is wrong, and choose carefully your words, because one mistep is just the excuse he will needs to get the hell out of there and justify his behavior to no end. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On January 31 2013 04:03 TheYango wrote: The one thing that bothers me about these kinds of discussions on TL outside of our subforum is that there end up being a lot of LoL players that don't post/participate on our subforum that shit-talk/flame/write poorly-thought-out responses to those threads that invite a poor impression of TL LoL. They're not active members of TL LoL, but they create a poorer impression of us because they're on TL and they play LoL. This and a half. Anonymous forums ftw. It's not like anyone who's never been here before know who the actual community voices are. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 31 2013 04:06 Shadowpostin wrote: I don't see why you should... If he did or did not flame LoL at any point is completely irrelevant because he has 0 clue about the game so who cares in the end really about his opinion?If he wants to show genuine interest and start playing it for fun(which I find highly unlikely that he would come out into the public with it since he would just get more hate from the sc2 side) than be my guest,if not than just ignore him,he isn't a part of this community and never will be most likely. I think it's at least worth setting the record straight that the majority of the less civil responses he picked out do not represent TL LoL in any way. He can hate on LoL, sure, but hating on a part of TL... | ||
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Shadowpostin
Germany798 Posts
On January 31 2013 04:06 WhiteDog wrote: Yes this exactly. It's quite sad because considering the amount of knowledge and quality poster in this subforum, like you Yango, I'm sure the discussion could be really fruitful. No not this exactly,because it doesn't apply just to us.......have you ever read the sc2 forum?It's 10× worse than ours. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
On January 31 2013 04:06 Shadowpostin wrote: I don't see why you should... If he did or did not flame LoL at any point is completely irrelevant because he has 0 clue about the game so who cares in the end really about his opinion?If he wants to show genuine interest and start playing it for fun(which I find highly unlikely that he would come out into the public with it since he would just get more hate from the sc2 side) than be my guest,if not than just ignore him,he isn't a part of this community and never will be most likely. I think what Neo wants to addres is more the part where he said he felt he wasn't received well on TL LoL | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On January 31 2013 04:02 xes wrote: Something I've noticed on a lot of pro streams but don't understand: They need to base, but do it in in front of tower in the middle of lane, get spell thrown at them and stay in lane anyways. Is this because a) they're lazy or b) baiting out that use of mana is "worth it"? Whenever I need to recall because of mana or buying or how the lane is pushing I always do it in a safe place so I don't end up wasting my time being interrupted. I'd say if they didn't get interuppted they would have gone back and bought but since they did get stopped, they'll have to waste more time trying to recall in a safe place (far away since the enemy knows they're trying to b) they now decided "eh, okay now you'll have the potential to deny me some creeps so I guess I'll farm a bit more." So yeah, it's a kind of laziness and if they were trying harder they would recall safer and only with purpose. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:55 NeoIllusions wrote: I'll listen to the podcast later tonight and address a response to iNc on behalf of TL LoL later tonight. Reason #numberyouthinkishighhere why Neo is awesome. Please do! No one really got to explain to him exactly why and how we think the way they do. I don't think the majority of the subforum hates iNc so much as they are kind of annoyed by his past actions of outright slamming and mockery and feel he's back peddling now is kind of a jerk move. I personally think he's a pretty cool guy, I'd even go so far to say I like him more then the organization that he's currently apart of. Far as I am concerned he's welcome here so long as he drops his league bashing. | ||
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