[Patch 1.0.0.147: Syndra] General Discussion - Page 162

On September 24 2012 03:58 UniversalSnip wrote:
it's never gonna change, people just like to dump on anyone better than them who is an attention magnet. Like here i am sitting at 1500s, same as last season, and just like last season i probably won't touch ranked again until there's a new round of rewards for it and i have to go pick up a medal. I am pretty much the definition of a scrub because i put no effort whatsoever into getting better at the game or trying to understand it, except so that i can argue with you guys. So here i am, abysmal, about the worst person you get your opinions of pro players from, and yet i could talk incredible amounts of shit about better players than me. We can see from this that the capacity to see an error and point it out means NOTHING. Yeah even a 900 player can see things a streamer is doing wrong, but that's all they can see because *anybody* can see it. I'm not going to try to pump up my ego by pointing out that hotshot tried to darius ult dragon. Wow, since i can see that, i can see what makes plays good right? Im also gonna refer you to loci's post primarily regarding dan.

On September 24 2012 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:

It's not about how he performed in the game, or even his performance in recent tourneys or whatever. It's about his status as a pro player and the level of skill/knolwedge that is supposed to accompany it. I suppose I can understand that he's never played Darius before and was trying him out for the first time, ok. But the fact that Darius has been out for MONTHS and he has played AGAINST him in various tournaments at the pro level, and solo q games, and scrims, and not known this is also a glaring testament to how much he knows/cares about the game. What if he was going up AGAINST a jungle Darius and he thought the guy would smite at 1k hp becuase of ult damage? He would miss the smite steal and screw it up.

There are plenty of people who are not being paid to be good at the game who figure this basic stuff out from the first day new champions are put on the PBE.

On September 24 2012 04:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Usually when junglers do something bad in competitive play, there's a thought process behind it that most people don't understand because they've never been in a similar situation. People talk shit and give opinions when they have 0 idea how bad the level they play at is compared to tourney play. This is similar to people arguing about strategy or champion viability on TL, if for example you have no 5s experience and have never played a solo queue game with anyone above silver, it means you have never played a meaningful game in your life and thus have no understanding of 90% of the stuff that goes on in this game. This awareness of the value of opinions has always seemed self-evident to me but apparently not to the people who post here.

On September 24 2012 04:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Usually when junglers do something bad in competitive play, there's a thought process behind it that most people don't understand because they've never been in a similar situation. People talk shit and give opinions when they have 0 idea how bad the level they play at is compared to tourney play. This is similar to people arguing about strategy or champion viability on TL, if for example you have no 5s experience and have never played a solo queue game with anyone above silver, it means you have never played a meaningful game in your life and thus have no understanding of 90% of the stuff that goes on in this game. This awareness of the value of opinions has always seemed self-evident to me but apparently not to the people who post here.

On September 24 2012 04:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i will uninstall the game if hotshot doesnt know darius's skillset, this is similar to a few months ago when people thought oddone didnt understand how turtle stance works, use your head plz, they are progamers.

On September 24 2012 04:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
well, i'm not saying you "can't" have an opinion, whatever that means, just that it's inevitably going to be shitty and ignorant and you should probably take that into account before releasing it. I do the exact same thing, i can watch 100% of pros and be like eww he's doing so much bad stuff, how does he not know that, i just don't put it out there. It would be silly of me to indicate to other people i can safely assume i know what i'm talking about, which is a required presumption, when i don't. I can't get the loci link because i'm on my phone, it's a great post that didn't get much attention though.

On September 24 2012 04:13 JackDino wrote:

I think(for me atleast), when calling a top player out on doing something bad, it's usually relative compared to other top players. Sure it may be better than me, but it's shit compared to x top player etc, which is a somewhat fair comparison. What people often forget though, is that when watching tourney games, players dont have the same information and vision we do, especially the vision part. It's real easy to say "why didn't team x do barno" when we know the enemy team is hiding @ dragon or whatever, when team x doesn't have vision of them at all.

On September 24 2012 04:14 WaveofShadow wrote:

Bly.
Explain how what you just said is relevant to Hotshot not knowing the interaction an limitations of a champion's ultimate who has been out for months.
This isn't Hotshot fucking up an Ali Q or Shyv ult. This is pure lack of knowledge.


I won't ask you to uninstall but from his reaction in game after he fucked up and his typing to chat to Azingy and co. he clearly had no idea that the ult didn't work.
At first he thought he missed the smite + ult because the ult had a cast time (which it does). Don't really have proof here, but maybe that guy who makes Youtube vids of all of Hotshot's screwups will put it up...meh.

I don't know what you guys are referring to but it seems Hotshot thought Darius could ult minions so he smited too late or something? I don't watch hotshot streams but I will seriously uninstall and stop playing the game forever if Hotshot indeed thought Darius could ult minions

On September 24 2012 04:18 WaveofShadow wrote:

I'm sorry, I just don't agree. You can have an informed opinion about things like this even if you're bad at the game. Like I sadi before, if what you're suggesting is true, you would never have any commentators/casters/opinion shows in the sports world if everybody on them had to be a pro player as well.