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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 15:15:22
August 16 2012 15:15 GMT
#421
Broken watch on EUW seems to carry every game with jayce and he plays him a lot and seems to get shurelyas+frozen heart into possibly BT or more tank items (or like hexdrinker and stuff) everygame. His base damages are pretty high but only the triple hit from gun thing does that much damage.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#422
On August 17 2012 00:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:06 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:54 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:44 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:31 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:00 JackDino wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:59 spinesheath wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:19 samthesaluki wrote:
they should disable bans for low elo doesnt even matter if you have most op lineup vs a crappy 1 if your teammates are retarded.

What's the point of disabling bans then if it doesn't matter anyways? I'm pretty sure Riot would like to avoid doing things that would tell people "you guys are low elo".

A bronze indicator on the profile page or even a bronze border is bad enough, if you have a problem with being low elo that is. I wouldn't. But like I could understand if people would feel bad if their entire friend list saw their bronze border.

Remember bronze is the top 25% of players. If you are really low elo, you don't get any border, and, indeed, your elo doesn't even show up, presumably because Riot thinks you should be ashamed of it.


I'm not sure why you're picking on Riot when it's obvious that the community would be the ones shaming people. You can disagree with their decision but you don't need to make up bogus reasons for them doing it.

Sorry-- I didn't mean that very seriously. I guess it came across wrong.


NP man. I probably shouldn't have taken it very seriously since people make posts like that all the time, but I've been off the internet for awhile so my sarcasm detection isn't the greatest.


Off... the internet? ...How? I don't understand. Are you okay?


Pfft, don't believe him. Next he'll be telling us there's this thing called "real life" where there are plants and animals and people and stuff. It's all an elaborate ruse designed to stop the insightful masses from sharing their wisdom with each other in the enlightened, hallowed hall of the internet we call forums.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 16 2012 15:23 GMT
#423
On August 16 2012 23:54 Seuss wrote:
Riot should stop hiding ranked Elo below 1200, and should have Elo display with every forum post.

I am in no way suggesting this solely for my own amusement as the forums explode in rage.


Feels good to be plat, don't it? ;P
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 16 2012 15:25 GMT
#424
On August 17 2012 00:19 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:06 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:54 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:44 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:31 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:00 JackDino wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:59 spinesheath wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:19 samthesaluki wrote:
they should disable bans for low elo doesnt even matter if you have most op lineup vs a crappy 1 if your teammates are retarded.

What's the point of disabling bans then if it doesn't matter anyways? I'm pretty sure Riot would like to avoid doing things that would tell people "you guys are low elo".

A bronze indicator on the profile page or even a bronze border is bad enough, if you have a problem with being low elo that is. I wouldn't. But like I could understand if people would feel bad if their entire friend list saw their bronze border.

Remember bronze is the top 25% of players. If you are really low elo, you don't get any border, and, indeed, your elo doesn't even show up, presumably because Riot thinks you should be ashamed of it.


I'm not sure why you're picking on Riot when it's obvious that the community would be the ones shaming people. You can disagree with their decision but you don't need to make up bogus reasons for them doing it.

Sorry-- I didn't mean that very seriously. I guess it came across wrong.


NP man. I probably shouldn't have taken it very seriously since people make posts like that all the time, but I've been off the internet for awhile so my sarcasm detection isn't the greatest.


Off... the internet? ...How? I don't understand. Are you okay?


Pfft, don't believe him. Next he'll be telling us there's this thing called "real life" where there are plants and animals and people and stuff. It's all an elaborate ruse designed to stop the insightful masses from sharing their wisdom with each other in the enlightened, hallowed hall of the internet we call forums.


Ah, I see. BURN THE HERETIC!

Oh, and this is a total and complete non-sequitur but what do people think of this??

/endderailingGD
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2012 15:39 GMT
#425
On August 17 2012 00:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Broken watch on EUW seems to carry every game with jayce and he plays him a lot and seems to get shurelyas+frozen heart into possibly BT or more tank items (or like hexdrinker and stuff) everygame. His base damages are pretty high but only the triple hit from gun thing does that much damage.

I can see it. A CDR build on him seems good, and once you max W and E, Cannon W and Hammer E are great baseline, so tank + CDR could work. However, his scaling is too big to ignore imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 16 2012 15:46 GMT
#426
I was duo-queuing with a low Elo friend last night and there was a Jayce on the enemy team. I was a fed Ezreal with IE, Trinity and BT. He just had Trinity and a Phage. Didn't stop him from trucking 70% of my health in an instant.

I gained respect for Jayce as a champion after that game.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
August 16 2012 15:47 GMT
#427
What's his scaling? Hyper charge is his only really good scaling the rest is decent but not amazing ad ratios..
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 15:55:17
August 16 2012 15:52 GMT
#428
1.68 AD on accelerated Cannon Q, 1.0 AD on Hammer Q, 1.0 AD on Hammer E, not to mention the 130% auto damage on each shot of Cannon W. It's not the best in the game, but a full combo (accelerated Q, Hammer Q in, 1 or 2 autos, E, Cannon hit EQW auto auto auto) is really fucking easy to land and does 5.36 AD plus whatever autos you land, 3 of which are 1.3x normal.
It's your boy Guzma!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 16 2012 15:53 GMT
#429
Hammer Form:
Q: +1.0 AD ratio
W: +0.25 AP ratio on a /sec ability
E: +1.0 AD Ratio

Range Form:
Q: +1.2 AD Ratio, +1.68 if Accelerated
W: Steriod ability, no ratio
E: Steriod ability, no ratio

With CDR, his Ranged Q poke seems almost Nidalee level. And with enough CDR, his Ranged E seems like a Shurelyas you can have with very high up-time.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#430
On August 17 2012 00:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:19 Seuss wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:06 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:54 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:44 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:31 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:00 JackDino wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:59 spinesheath wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:19 samthesaluki wrote:
they should disable bans for low elo doesnt even matter if you have most op lineup vs a crappy 1 if your teammates are retarded.

What's the point of disabling bans then if it doesn't matter anyways? I'm pretty sure Riot would like to avoid doing things that would tell people "you guys are low elo".

A bronze indicator on the profile page or even a bronze border is bad enough, if you have a problem with being low elo that is. I wouldn't. But like I could understand if people would feel bad if their entire friend list saw their bronze border.

Remember bronze is the top 25% of players. If you are really low elo, you don't get any border, and, indeed, your elo doesn't even show up, presumably because Riot thinks you should be ashamed of it.


I'm not sure why you're picking on Riot when it's obvious that the community would be the ones shaming people. You can disagree with their decision but you don't need to make up bogus reasons for them doing it.

Sorry-- I didn't mean that very seriously. I guess it came across wrong.


NP man. I probably shouldn't have taken it very seriously since people make posts like that all the time, but I've been off the internet for awhile so my sarcasm detection isn't the greatest.


Off... the internet? ...How? I don't understand. Are you okay?


Pfft, don't believe him. Next he'll be telling us there's this thing called "real life" where there are plants and animals and people and stuff. It's all an elaborate ruse designed to stop the insightful masses from sharing their wisdom with each other in the enlightened, hallowed hall of the internet we call forums.


Ah, I see. BURN THE HERETIC!

Oh, and this is a total and complete non-sequitur but what do people think of this??

/endderailingGD

That's one of my favorite parts of that book :o
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 16 2012 16:13 GMT
#431
On August 17 2012 01:10 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:19 Seuss wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:06 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:54 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:44 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:31 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:00 JackDino wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:59 spinesheath wrote:
[quote]
What's the point of disabling bans then if it doesn't matter anyways? I'm pretty sure Riot would like to avoid doing things that would tell people "you guys are low elo".

A bronze indicator on the profile page or even a bronze border is bad enough, if you have a problem with being low elo that is. I wouldn't. But like I could understand if people would feel bad if their entire friend list saw their bronze border.

Remember bronze is the top 25% of players. If you are really low elo, you don't get any border, and, indeed, your elo doesn't even show up, presumably because Riot thinks you should be ashamed of it.


I'm not sure why you're picking on Riot when it's obvious that the community would be the ones shaming people. You can disagree with their decision but you don't need to make up bogus reasons for them doing it.

Sorry-- I didn't mean that very seriously. I guess it came across wrong.


NP man. I probably shouldn't have taken it very seriously since people make posts like that all the time, but I've been off the internet for awhile so my sarcasm detection isn't the greatest.


Off... the internet? ...How? I don't understand. Are you okay?


Pfft, don't believe him. Next he'll be telling us there's this thing called "real life" where there are plants and animals and people and stuff. It's all an elaborate ruse designed to stop the insightful masses from sharing their wisdom with each other in the enlightened, hallowed hall of the internet we call forums.


Ah, I see. BURN THE HERETIC!

Oh, and this is a total and complete non-sequitur but what do people think of this??

/endderailingGD

That's one of my favorite parts of that book :o


I'm just glad someone picked up on my Plato reference in a LoL forum.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 16 2012 16:22 GMT
#432
On August 17 2012 01:13 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:10 barbsq wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:19 Seuss wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:06 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:54 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:44 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:31 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:00 JackDino wrote:
[quote]
A bronze indicator on the profile page or even a bronze border is bad enough, if you have a problem with being low elo that is. I wouldn't. But like I could understand if people would feel bad if their entire friend list saw their bronze border.

Remember bronze is the top 25% of players. If you are really low elo, you don't get any border, and, indeed, your elo doesn't even show up, presumably because Riot thinks you should be ashamed of it.


I'm not sure why you're picking on Riot when it's obvious that the community would be the ones shaming people. You can disagree with their decision but you don't need to make up bogus reasons for them doing it.

Sorry-- I didn't mean that very seriously. I guess it came across wrong.


NP man. I probably shouldn't have taken it very seriously since people make posts like that all the time, but I've been off the internet for awhile so my sarcasm detection isn't the greatest.


Off... the internet? ...How? I don't understand. Are you okay?


Pfft, don't believe him. Next he'll be telling us there's this thing called "real life" where there are plants and animals and people and stuff. It's all an elaborate ruse designed to stop the insightful masses from sharing their wisdom with each other in the enlightened, hallowed hall of the internet we call forums.


Ah, I see. BURN THE HERETIC!

Oh, and this is a total and complete non-sequitur but what do people think of this??

/endderailingGD

That's one of my favorite parts of that book :o


I'm just glad someone picked up on my Plato reference in a LoL forum.


I really should reread Allegory of the Cave. My history teacher had us read it freshman year of high school (almost 7 years ago) and I didn't really get it. I wonder how much more I'd get out of it now.


During lunch, my coworkers were talking about Fantasy Football, and it got me wondering if Fantasy LoL would work. I've never done any sort of Fantasy sport, so I have no idea what the logistics/scoring would be, but if someone were to set it up, I'd probably give it a try.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:26:56
August 16 2012 16:26 GMT
#433
On August 17 2012 01:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:13 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:10 barbsq wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:19 Seuss wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:06 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:54 Zizoz wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:44 phyvo wrote:
On August 16 2012 20:31 Zizoz wrote:
[quote]
Remember bronze is the top 25% of players. If you are really low elo, you don't get any border, and, indeed, your elo doesn't even show up, presumably because Riot thinks you should be ashamed of it.


I'm not sure why you're picking on Riot when it's obvious that the community would be the ones shaming people. You can disagree with their decision but you don't need to make up bogus reasons for them doing it.

Sorry-- I didn't mean that very seriously. I guess it came across wrong.


NP man. I probably shouldn't have taken it very seriously since people make posts like that all the time, but I've been off the internet for awhile so my sarcasm detection isn't the greatest.


Off... the internet? ...How? I don't understand. Are you okay?


Pfft, don't believe him. Next he'll be telling us there's this thing called "real life" where there are plants and animals and people and stuff. It's all an elaborate ruse designed to stop the insightful masses from sharing their wisdom with each other in the enlightened, hallowed hall of the internet we call forums.


Ah, I see. BURN THE HERETIC!

Oh, and this is a total and complete non-sequitur but what do people think of this??

/endderailingGD

That's one of my favorite parts of that book :o


I'm just glad someone picked up on my Plato reference in a LoL forum.


I really should reread Allegory of the Cave. My history teacher had us read it freshman year of high school (almost 7 years ago) and I didn't really get it. I wonder how much more I'd get out of it now.


During lunch, my coworkers were talking about Fantasy Football, and it got me wondering if Fantasy LoL would work. I've never done any sort of Fantasy sport, so I have no idea what the logistics/scoring would be, but if someone were to set it up, I'd probably give it a try.


Are there enough pro LoL players that are REALLY good enough to justify making fantasy teams? I will admit to not having enough knowledge of the pro scene, but aren't there about 30~ great players? I feel like everyone would have the same team... or at least enough people would that it would get silly.

Who knows though... I could definitely be wrong (and I expected to be corrected on my perception of the scene immediately).

Edit: I also don't know much about making fantasy teams.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 16 2012 16:27 GMT
#434
there's fantasy starcraft here on TL,

LoL might not be developed enough for a fantasy league yet tho; afaik, they need ongoing leagues and seasons for that to really work.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#435
Oh there's more than enough pro players (NA, EU, KR). And when you draft a team, the player list is cycled through without replacement (right?), so teams are unique.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 16 2012 16:30 GMT
#436
So rengar can destroy people at level 1 like tigerdyr. He's gonna be crazy in the top lane
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#437
On August 17 2012 01:30 Perplex wrote:
So rengar can destroy people at level 1 like tigerdyr. He's gonna be crazy in the top lane

it's not tiger that makes udyr stupid top lane tho. It's turtle.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#438
On August 17 2012 01:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Oh there's more than enough pro players (NA, EU, KR). And when you draft a team, the player list is cycled through without replacement (right?), so teams are unique.


There ya go. That seems like it would be super fun, then.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2012 16:32 GMT
#439
On August 17 2012 01:30 Perplex wrote:
So rengar can destroy people at level 1 like tigerdyr. He's gonna be crazy in the top lane

If you're talking about that Reddit vid, that was with all AD runes and a DBlade start. It's a bit cheese-y, and you have to let the Golems smack you around and miss farm. Not really the same as sitting in bush with Tiger proc up.

But I'll agree he looks insane. Any manaless champ with sustain, tankiness, damage, and ranged harass is dumb.
It's your boy Guzma!
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:35:27
August 16 2012 16:33 GMT
#440
On August 17 2012 01:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Are there enough pro LoL players that are REALLY good enough to justify making fantasy teams? I will admit to not having enough knowledge of the pro scene, but aren't there about 30~ great players? I feel like everyone would have the same team... or at least enough people would that it would get silly.

Who knows though... I could definitely be wrong (and I expected to be corrected on my perception of the scene immediately).

Edit: I also don't know much about making fantasy teams.


Another way to do it (fantasy proleague style) each player has a "cost" based on how good they are (or perceived to be) and your team can't exceed a certain cost. So if you want Froggen mid you'd have to take some non-top tier top or jungle or w/e to stay within your cost limit

At least that's how it worked in fantasy BW, which I played a bit when it was around
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