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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:00 HazMat wrote: By the way why did people stop playing Zyra? I don't think the hotfix was that bad, was it? I haven't seen a single Zyra ban or pick since the hotfix which surprises me. Psychology, people see nerf and assume the champ isn't viable. Which is silly, look at Shen & ahri (also graves) | ||
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Celial
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
first of all: brought up my Elo was when I was complaining about azingy duoing with an unranked and wasting everyone's time. Sorry? He still does that shit by the way. so about losing ~20 elo if you lose and gain 5 elo if you win or sth hey thats basically getting matched with f lord! ~.~ (thats so stupid hes like 400 elo above anyone in usual games..) But for the Elo you really have to see differences. I know someone who has (needs to check cause hes elo elevator number 1) ~1800 elo atm but he is one of the better junglers in europe (maybe not toptop tier anymore but still really good) but hes not at 1800 elo because hes "stuck" its just because he doesnt care and he is a one of the worst persons which you can meet in solo q : he flames afks/int feeds/rages hes just an asshole in solo q. In premade on the other hand hes kinda chilled. Should maybe add he was like top 10 in beta and was at 2.3k I think in s1 at one point. But on the other hand there are people who try to get up in Elo but it just doesnt work at all and that is kinda an issue for competetive play. If you believe you are a pro player/play in a pro team you should not be "stuck" at 2k (which for example wetdream was) you should be able to get higher maybe not rank 1 or anything but you should be able to get considerable high. In addition to that: playing at higher Elo makes you a better player if you play against the top players which are at the highest elo instead of playing against some good players but mainly "trash players" at like 2k elo makes you better and you dont start learning/getting stupid habits which you cant break. I might add I dont like to tryhard all day either atm im in "tryhard mode" and im at ~2.5k elo atm but im pretty confident that I will start "trolling" and experementing again which I did when I dropped from 2.5k to ~2.2k elo a while ago with fp ad teemo/ashe/nasus. You also said elementz is bad because he is only 2100 elo. He's bad not because his elo is "low" (at least compared to yours), it's because his play is actually fucking terrible Without saying anything about Elementz because I cant judge how good he is. You see it a bit wrongly: his elo is low because hes bad there is a direct influence. You honestly notice a huge difference in level of play between like 2.5k elo and 2.2k elo and no its not all about luck  Edit: By the way why did people stop playing Zyra? I don't think the hotfix was that bad, was it? I haven't seen a single Zyra ban or pick since the hotfix which surprises me. Zyra is with Diana top ban in europe (including malph/gragas/shen occaosionally some alistars and I personally ban that stupid shitty ezreal) | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:00 HazMat wrote: By the way why did people stop playing Zyra? I don't think the hotfix was that bad, was it? I haven't seen a single Zyra ban or pick since the hotfix which surprises me. She did lose quite a bit of power, and now she's not amazing, and more just solid. Especially now that more time as passed, along with the nerfs, she's just faded as a ban/pick. I'm pretty sure she still sees play (I don't follow the pro-scene much) because she still brings a great amount of utility as well as decent damage. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:28 HazMat wrote: That makes me want to play on EU. Gragas and Diana are both must bans for me now. I'm going to start playing Zyra since she's never banned on NA Yah Zyra still good. Definitely less faceroll than before, but still real terror. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
That makes me want to play on EU. Gragas and Diana are both must bans for me now. I'm going to start playing Zyra since she's never banned on NA Yeah bans/picks are quite interesting differences personally I always feel that the european solo q is most of the time a bit ahead of america but thats obviously my bias for example I heard you ban tf over there? really surprising to me in europe we have several aps who are famous for there tf (peke/flord mainly) and they dont even get tf constantly banned (they sometimes get it banned though)For Zyra The recent tournement was the nerfed Zyra and she still got picked and raped several games so shes obviously still insane. But yeah I kinda have trouble banning atm my main bans are : Zyra Diana Ezreal (just because I dont want to lane/play him ) but kinda would like to ban: malph and ali (for the whining solo laners :p) oh and Gragas so much dmg ) : | ||
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Lmui
Canada6219 Posts
Shaco - Because fuck shaco Blitzcrank - Guaranteed to snowball bot lane one way or the other Alistar - 50% of the time, your top lane will lose at level 2 to this guy Lee Sin - 20% of the time, the lee will become the most mobile, tanky, painful mofo ever Malphite - Annoying. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
(like oddone with ezreal but he was wrong with him so I might be wrong aswell^^) | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
It's not even that he's bad, but people don't realize how to play against him, so your team always gets their shit rolled for not dodging or even watching for grabs. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
but as I said nunu is pretty much blitz hardcounter no way you can hook anyone with that ms (if they play decent that is) | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
If Nunu tries to E you, you hook him for a free kill. You have three CC's, he ain't ulting the team after being hooked. Bloodboil doesn't give that much movespeed because of diminishing returns; a good Blitz is going to have a field day with a Nunu running into 550 range. Blitz does EXTREMELY well against Nunu, especially in lane. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
I feel dumb for having not played ranked games for so long. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Nunu's a legit support pick, but not into Blitz imo. | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
Nunu gives a sprint, sure, but he ain't going to stop Blitz from full comboing his carry, and he can't heal off the burst of something like that. As I said you wont get hit as a carry if you have the nunu ms buff there is nothing blitz can combo without hitting and you cant oneshot nunu because hes too tanky and if you CC the nunu with grab -> knockup -> ult then the ad carry with the nunu as buff will just kill your ad and blitz. Just believe me I played so many kogmaw/nunu games thats not even funny | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 14 2012 11:35 Ente wrote: As I said you wont get hit as a carry if you have the nunu ms buff there is nothing blitz can combo without hitting and you cant oneshot nunu because hes too tanky and if you CC the nunu with grab -> knockup -> ult then the ad carry with the nunu as buff will just kill your ad and blitz. Just believe me I played so many kogmaw/nunu games thats not even funny are you playing against blitzcranks who dont know how to lead a grab? You can certainly grab someone with a movespeed buff if you lead a bit. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
if he ganks you most of the time you can just turn and drop him instantly with your full combo and he falls off at like 15 minutes anyways | ||
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