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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#3641
This game needs to let you talk to opposing team during picks/bans because half the time, people are so bored they trash talk their own team and then it leads to trolling each other in game.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 15 2012 02:33 GMT
#3642
carry me
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 15 2012 02:35 GMT
#3643
Some guy makes a mathcraft on last whisper assuming all AD carries can use their abilities on cooldown but doesn't put out the numbers for his math. "Yeah MF breaks even at 63 armor for getting a last whisper against bruisers but I won't tell you why. She probably just synergizes so well with it because of all the magic damage she gets on her W and other abilities." This happens too much. Make a claim, back it up. God I wish Riot didn't make patch updates based on what got upvoted on reddit.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 15 2012 02:59 GMT
#3644
On August 15 2012 11:35 obesechicken13 wrote:
Some guy makes a mathcraft on last whisper assuming all AD carries can use their abilities on cooldown but doesn't put out the numbers for his math. "Yeah MF breaks even at 63 armor for getting a last whisper against bruisers but I won't tell you why. She probably just synergizes so well with it because of all the magic damage she gets on her W and other abilities." This happens too much. Make a claim, back it up. God I wish Riot didn't make patch updates based on what got upvoted on reddit.


http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/21273-yelling-about-last-whisper

This is a bit light on math, but basically he is trying to say that a 2nd PD > LW on some champs. I don't understand where the post bases its claims on, so obviously its suspicious. However, no one takes RoG theorycrafting seriously, do they? I just like their "interesting reds".
Freeeeeeedom
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 15 2012 03:03 GMT
#3645
In other news, Kat has Mundo/Shyvana level survivability early in the jungle and the closest I came to alleviating that was a 15/15/0 mastery setup combined with hp5 Quints, AD Marks, and Armor Seals/Glyphs.

The core problem I'm facing is that I really, really want CDR on Kat but she doesn't really have good options for picking it up. You have to do something like build FH in spite of the mana.

It's not the worst idea, but I really wanted my CDR Quint/Glyph page to work better.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 03:05:10
August 15 2012 03:03 GMT
#3646
I don't understand how MF breaks even at 63 armor. Makes 0 sense.

@Kat - does she also clear so fast as to help negate her lack of sustain?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 15 2012 03:04 GMT
#3647
On August 15 2012 11:59 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 11:35 obesechicken13 wrote:
Some guy makes a mathcraft on last whisper assuming all AD carries can use their abilities on cooldown but doesn't put out the numbers for his math. "Yeah MF breaks even at 63 armor for getting a last whisper against bruisers but I won't tell you why. She probably just synergizes so well with it because of all the magic damage she gets on her W and other abilities." This happens too much. Make a claim, back it up. God I wish Riot didn't make patch updates based on what got upvoted on reddit.


http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/21273-yelling-about-last-whisper

This is a bit light on math, but basically he is trying to say that a 2nd PD > LW on some champs. I don't understand where the post bases its claims on, so obviously its suspicious. However, no one takes RoG theorycrafting seriously, do they? I just like their "interesting reds".

It's been posted on here a few times, that unless they have a certain amount of armor another PD is better than a pd
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 15 2012 03:09 GMT
#3648
On August 15 2012 12:03 sylverfyre wrote:
I don't understand how MF breaks even at 63 armor. Makes 0 sense.

@Kat - does she also clear so fast as to help negate her lack of sustain?


Somewhere around level 5-7 sustain stops being a major issue except on buff camps, but the sustain issue is pretty big for her first clear. You could do as some Mundo/Shyvana players do and grab CA and save it for Aegis. I hate doing that though.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 15 2012 03:10 GMT
#3649
I think the reason his MF calculation is break-even at 63 armor is he's assuming double-up is hitting 2 champions -_-;
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 03:21:24
August 15 2012 03:11 GMT
#3650
On August 15 2012 12:04 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 11:59 cLutZ wrote:
On August 15 2012 11:35 obesechicken13 wrote:
Some guy makes a mathcraft on last whisper assuming all AD carries can use their abilities on cooldown but doesn't put out the numbers for his math. "Yeah MF breaks even at 63 armor for getting a last whisper against bruisers but I won't tell you why. She probably just synergizes so well with it because of all the magic damage she gets on her W and other abilities." This happens too much. Make a claim, back it up. God I wish Riot didn't make patch updates based on what got upvoted on reddit.


http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/21273-yelling-about-last-whisper

This is a bit light on math, but basically he is trying to say that a 2nd PD > LW on some champs. I don't understand where the post bases its claims on, so obviously its suspicious. However, no one takes RoG theorycrafting seriously, do they? I just like their "interesting reds".

It's been posted on here a few times, that unless they have a certain amount of armor another PD is better than a pd


Edit. Even more joking the OP of the article says in the comments,
"I very rarely see Corkis rush anything but IE in high level play. Not that I see too many high level corki picks."


Yes, I understand, I just don't think ppl should take RoG seriously. Its like taking all the Solomid.net guides seriously. Look at their "Approved" Solotop Nunu guide. http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=29977

RoA is core...

On August 15 2012 12:03 Seuss wrote:
In other news, Kat has Mundo/Shyvana level survivability early in the jungle and the closest I came to alleviating that was a 15/15/0 mastery setup combined with hp5 Quints, AD Marks, and Armor Seals/Glyphs.

The core problem I'm facing is that I really, really want CDR on Kat but she doesn't really have good options for picking it up. You have to do something like build FH in spite of the mana.

It's not the worst idea, but I really wanted my CDR Quint/Glyph page to work better.


DFG/Morellos or both?
Freeeeeeedom
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 15 2012 03:17 GMT
#3651
patch patch night night
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