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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 06 2012 02:18 koreasilver wrote: I suck at Alistar support and I've never bought Blitzcrank.  Blitzcrank is really fun tbh, and even if youre awful at grabs one grab late game will win you the game. Easily the most retard proof support i think. I just played alot of Alistar and now i'm actually really comfortable in my supportastar, nailing combos everytime just makes me so happy >_>. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:47 Ryuu314 wrote: he posted it like 15 pages ago. here it is: + Show Spoiler + On July 04 2012 20:04 PrinceXizor wrote: Evelynn Top going tanky: 6 AD marks 3 AD quints 3 Armor Marks 9 Armor Seal 6 Armor Glyph 3 Mres/lvl Glyph vs physical damage tops 25 and 5 in offense in defense provides: 3 Damage +10 damage to turrets Exhaust Mastery (-10 armor + Mres) 3 armor 3 Mres 3hp/5 12 Hp/lvl 30 HP -2 damage taken -2 minion damage taken -1.5% damage taken -3% Aoe damage taken 3% bonus hp and 10% cc reduction Doran's Shield start let us know how it goes And you can definitely carry with supports. I don't main support but I've definitely have had games where I honestly feel like I carried my team as a support. It's usually with the more aggressive supports like Blitz, but you can do it. Carrying as a support is much much much harder and a lot more subtle, but it can definitely be done as long as your AD carry can last hit competently. flash/exhaust? skill order? | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
I'm pretty sure he said he ran exhaust-tp. Dunno about skill order though. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:56 beamerkun wrote: That's why it isn't carrying for many people - you need decent ad carry to succed. Godly support with retarded rest of team is no good... Supports can carry. Hard. Back when Janna and Sona were stronger, I even had 80%+ win ratios on them while going from 1400 to 1800. Sure, now it's a bit harder because they aren't as powerful anymore, but they didn't lose THAT much strength. Janna's nerfs were substantial, but all of her skills still are among the most useful ones in the game. Carrying as a support is also done a lot though the use of the enter key (OP as fuck), and by sticking eyes on poles into random places. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 06 2012 02:18 koreasilver wrote: I suck at Alistar support and I've never bought Blitzcrank. You should, dude's awesome. And I mean Blitzcrank in general, not supportCrank. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
For a real game, 1 point in stealth by at least lvl 4 should be mandatory, likely earlier. For a 1v1, you should probably ignore it, would only work if your enemy is stupid. Q's damage is more mana efficient, E is your only burst... Considering his plan of autoattacking people to death, probably Q max? But since your enemies would be interested in burst trades, you might want to go E instead (If they can get away with say a dash). Even without the passive being useful, R should be worth taking at 6. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On July 06 2012 01:08 Sufficiency wrote: On the other hand, if you are AD and your support is bad, you will also be stuck on a losing lane. The ONLY reason this does not happen as often is this *THING* called Soraka.... Healbot ftw. You can still CS as most AD carries even if your support is shit. You'll fall behind in CS and lose your lane, your support might even get gibbed a few times and you could die at least once due to mistakes but as most AD carries you can still get farm in a disadvantaged lane with a bad support. If you're a support and your AD carry is bad you usually just have to hope the rest of your team is good enough to carry with an under-fed AD. On July 06 2012 01:29 Slayer91 wrote: You can carry with any support by playing well if you don't think so you're just bad at support. Sona and soraka are less obvious unless you've played them a lot though. They do an insane amount still. I agree that they're less obvious but while I don't play much Sona I've 100% carried games as Soraka. Only one time did anyone recognize it though. Still, it feels pretty great when the enemy team is talking in end-game chat about how hard Soraka support carried our team. After the nerf to her armor buff I'm kind of worried about how good Soraka's team fight will be though... | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
"omg i wasn't watching map, type ss noob!" | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 06 2012 02:50 Alaric wrote: He said he went E at level 1 (on Eve I mean), and I guess he's maxing it first since the flat reduction scales with levels and he relies on minions to do damage for him, E makes them hit harder. Well her E hits really hard even with no items so I don't doubt it. Aswell as the reduction and the fact he's wanting minions to do most of the damage. so i dunno. i think if they make a slip up Eve could def win some lanes, but she's so weak i think they could swing the lane back to their favor in a heartbeat also | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Was the 1v1 Grudgematch thread deleted? I don't really see what was so offensive about it, especially since we might be getting more of these happening now... (ie. incoming Smash v Shake) | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On July 06 2012 03:01 Perplex wrote: I've found that it's much easier to "carry" as a support once you get to 1500-1600. By then everyone is decent at the game and people don't go full retard as often, so providing vision and "supporting" your team well in general goes a long way. It can often make the difference in a game. Everyone is decent at the game and don't go full retard in 1500-1600? I hope you're trolling, I have harder time on my smurf in that ELO than in 2k | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On July 06 2012 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote: Awww wait wtf? Was the 1v1 Grudgematch thread deleted? I don't really see what was so offensive about it, especially since we might be getting more of these happening now... (ie. incoming Smash v Shake) This is just chest thumping. Xizor shouldn't have been able to spew baseless talk about Eve for so long. That's my fault for not checking GD. Mods are anti-fun. Not like the thread was just about Xizor. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Juddas
768 Posts
The reason ibask Is because I've been playing a good bit of Annie and her attack range is just too good to not abuse. She seems to have a good kit for it, aoe stuns, dmg reduction, and good base damage. Thoughts ? | ||
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On July 06 2012 03:22 Juddas wrote: How viable is AD Annie? Like straight up, how viable would you see her? The reason ibask Is because I've been playing a good bit of Annie and her attack range is just too good to not abuse. She seems to have a good kit for it, aoe stuns, dmg reduction, and good base damage. Thoughts ? I'm too lazy to check but I've heard than she ties for lowest attack speed among all champions and no steroids so I don't see how she has good base damage. | ||
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