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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 05 2012 01:28 GMT
#5341
I played Jayce on the PBE, I'm by no means a good player but if you are fast enough, I feel that you could do some ranged harrass with the cannon version first via cannon shot + portal, pop your W (increases attack speed to max for 3 hits), then switch out to hammer form, Q jump to an enemy, pop your W (damage over time around you), then bash the guy's face in with AAs then finish off with E.

Jayce also has some interesting utility in that his speed portal thing gives vision along with his ranged form Q. He's going to be interesting to say the least.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 01:32:42
July 05 2012 01:31 GMT
#5342
any ETA on jayce patch? I really want to waste all my hard-earned IP on him.

And what is the cast speed of his transform? Is it like Nidalee's?

And do his spells retain their cooldowns after transform or are they seperate?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 01:43:32
July 05 2012 01:42 GMT
#5343
His spells' effects carry over if you transform, the cast speed of his transform is instant. His transformation skill has a cooldown of 6 seconds (I think). So you can use his max attack speed self buff in ranged form, hit transform, and retain the bonus for 3 hits in melee form. I think after you transform your next attack will shred armor + mr on your target but I'm not entirely sure.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2012 01:50 GMT
#5344
I'm certain that a 40 mana cost spell that deals magic dmg equal to 20% of enemys max hp that has an AD ratio isn't going to be problematic at all~
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 05 2012 01:51 GMT
#5345
On July 05 2012 10:50 Shikyo wrote:
I'm certain that a 40 mana cost spell that deals magic dmg equal to 20% of enemys max hp that has an AD ratio isn't going to be problematic at all~


you and morello both!
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 05 2012 01:51 GMT
#5346
On July 05 2012 10:42 Nos- wrote:
His spells' effects carry over if you transform, the cast speed of his transform is instant. His transformation skill has a cooldown of 6 seconds (I think). So you can use his max attack speed self buff in ranged form, hit transform, and retain the bonus for 3 hits in melee form. I think after you transform your next attack will shred armor + mr on your target but I'm not entirely sure.

The wiki description seems to imply that the % armor shred only applies when you make the melee->ranged switch and not the other way round.
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nmbr
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
July 05 2012 01:59 GMT
#5347
Slowcast Lulu's Q for those clutch split slows.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 05 2012 02:01 GMT
#5348
On July 05 2012 10:59 nmbr wrote:
Slowcast Lulu's Q for those clutch split slows.


Nah man, set Smartcast w/ range indicators to shift+QWER.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 02:03:47
July 05 2012 02:02 GMT
#5349
im currently at beijing airport, can finally play league after 2 month break
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 02:06:50
July 05 2012 02:06 GMT
#5350
I think we need to call non smartcast safecast or some other positive term besides "dumbcast" or "slowcast"
either that or we can be totally negative, you can either "dumbcast" or "lazycast" just so no one feels bad about their preference. lol
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
July 05 2012 02:11 GMT
#5351
One thing I have to keep on at least "smart cast with indicators" is Lux's ult. Although I've played her a lot I still have no idea how long her ult is and always need an indicator. Found this out the hard way after falling severely short on some shots after I switched to full smartcast (no indicator).

On this topic, anyone that is looking to improve their game should start using smartcast and eventually smartcast with no indicator for most spells. If you know the champ and their abilities well enough it will make you quite a bit faster.
I got nothin'...
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
July 05 2012 02:11 GMT
#5352
did solomid.net crash o cant seem to get in
Barackopala
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 05 2012 02:13 GMT
#5353
On July 05 2012 10:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 10:42 Nos- wrote:
His spells' effects carry over if you transform, the cast speed of his transform is instant. His transformation skill has a cooldown of 6 seconds (I think). So you can use his max attack speed self buff in ranged form, hit transform, and retain the bonus for 3 hits in melee form. I think after you transform your next attack will shred armor + mr on your target but I'm not entirely sure.

The wiki description seems to imply that the % armor shred only applies when you make the melee->ranged switch and not the other way round.


You are correct, armor shred is only applied when you go from melee -> ranged. However if you go from ranged to melee, your first hit applies additional magic damage instead.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 05 2012 02:16 GMT
#5354
Solomid got DDOS'd again? or just down for maintenance because of them reverting to the old version?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
nmbr
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
July 05 2012 02:16 GMT
#5355
What are these indicators you speak of? I'll have to mess around with it more. Does it cast on key-release or something?

ITSOKYOUREOKCAST
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 02:25:31
July 05 2012 02:22 GMT
#5356
Jayce doesn't need to level his ult cos he gets rank 1 for free right?

I calculated that at lvl 9 vs a target with 100 armor 50 mres, assuming he gets 2 autos off during the 2s slow, assuming full AD runes and 2 doran blades (Should be doable at lvl 9), Jayce's burst is 608 true damage every 16 seconds, 838 with Ignite (At lvl 9 normal base hp is somewhere around 1300)

Not including masteries etc but this gives an idea I guess

His E which would be maxed first deals 300 true dmg after reductions assuming enemy has 1200 hp
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 02:46:56
July 05 2012 02:37 GMT
#5357
Leveling up his transformation skill strengthens the bonuses he gets for his first hit. For example when he goes from ranged to melee, the extra magic damage scales from 20-60-100-140, whereas the armor/mr shred goes from 10-15-20-25%.

His hammer E does some ridiculous damage, as it deals 20% of the target's max hp as magic damage. However it feels that Jayce doesn't really do damage outside of that one skill, since everything else has low base damage with mediocre ad scaling.

Going to test his jungling speed with double transformation bonuses + lvl1 E.

Edit: Don't jungle with Jayce :|
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 05 2012 02:44 GMT
#5358
So you guys think Jayce would be AD carry or solo top champ?

I'm leaning towards him being a solo top champ with solid poke, but I haven't played him on PBE so...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2012 02:46 GMT
#5359
On July 05 2012 11:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
So you guys think Jayce would be AD carry or solo top champ?

I'm leaning towards him being a solo top champ with solid poke, but I haven't played him on PBE so...

In theory, both, however his low range and lack of ult might be a problem as AD carry. However you can probably get around it with some creativity
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 05 2012 02:49 GMT
#5360
On July 05 2012 11:46 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 11:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
So you guys think Jayce would be AD carry or solo top champ?

I'm leaning towards him being a solo top champ with solid poke, but I haven't played him on PBE so...

In theory, both, however his low range and lack of ult might be a problem as AD carry. However you can probably get around it with some creativity


His ranged attack animation is really slow, with mediocre range and no steroid, so I don't think he'll fit into the AD carry role well. He feels much better as a solo top champ since he can dish out quite a bit of ranged burst with E+Q and W autos. Combine that with his insane hammer E damage and Q jump+slow, and he could shut down some top champions fairly handily in my opinion. Only problem is his only escape is his speed portal thing in ranged form, so he will have a difficult time getting out of ganks.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
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