Jayce also has some interesting utility in that his speed portal thing gives vision along with his ranged form Q. He's going to be interesting to say the least.
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Nos-
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Jayce also has some interesting utility in that his speed portal thing gives vision along with his ranged form Q. He's going to be interesting to say the least. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
And what is the cast speed of his transform? Is it like Nidalee's? And do his spells retain their cooldowns after transform or are they seperate? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:50 Shikyo wrote: I'm certain that a 40 mana cost spell that deals magic dmg equal to 20% of enemys max hp that has an AD ratio isn't going to be problematic at all~ you and morello both! huehuehuehue | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:42 Nos- wrote: His spells' effects carry over if you transform, the cast speed of his transform is instant. His transformation skill has a cooldown of 6 seconds (I think). So you can use his max attack speed self buff in ranged form, hit transform, and retain the bonus for 3 hits in melee form. I think after you transform your next attack will shred armor + mr on your target but I'm not entirely sure. The wiki description seems to imply that the % armor shred only applies when you make the melee->ranged switch and not the other way round. | ||
nmbr
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:59 nmbr wrote: Slowcast Lulu's Q for those clutch split slows. Nah man, set Smartcast w/ range indicators to shift+QWER. | ||
emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
either that or we can be totally negative, you can either "dumbcast" or "lazycast" just so no one feels bad about their preference. lol | ||
YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
On this topic, anyone that is looking to improve their game should start using smartcast and eventually smartcast with no indicator for most spells. If you know the champ and their abilities well enough it will make you quite a bit faster. | ||
WilDMousE
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On July 05 2012 10:51 TheYango wrote: The wiki description seems to imply that the % armor shred only applies when you make the melee->ranged switch and not the other way round. You are correct, armor shred is only applied when you go from melee -> ranged. However if you go from ranged to melee, your first hit applies additional magic damage instead. | ||
MooMooMugi
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nmbr
United States79 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I calculated that at lvl 9 vs a target with 100 armor 50 mres, assuming he gets 2 autos off during the 2s slow, assuming full AD runes and 2 doran blades (Should be doable at lvl 9), Jayce's burst is 608 true damage every 16 seconds, 838 with Ignite (At lvl 9 normal base hp is somewhere around 1300) Not including masteries etc but this gives an idea I guess His E which would be maxed first deals 300 true dmg after reductions assuming enemy has 1200 hp | ||
Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
His hammer E does some ridiculous damage, as it deals 20% of the target's max hp as magic damage. However it feels that Jayce doesn't really do damage outside of that one skill, since everything else has low base damage with mediocre ad scaling. Going to test his jungling speed with double transformation bonuses + lvl1 E. Edit: Don't jungle with Jayce :| | ||
Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
I'm leaning towards him being a solo top champ with solid poke, but I haven't played him on PBE so... | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 05 2012 11:44 Ryuu314 wrote: So you guys think Jayce would be AD carry or solo top champ? I'm leaning towards him being a solo top champ with solid poke, but I haven't played him on PBE so... In theory, both, however his low range and lack of ult might be a problem as AD carry. However you can probably get around it with some creativity | ||
Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On July 05 2012 11:46 Shikyo wrote: In theory, both, however his low range and lack of ult might be a problem as AD carry. However you can probably get around it with some creativity His ranged attack animation is really slow, with mediocre range and no steroid, so I don't think he'll fit into the AD carry role well. He feels much better as a solo top champ since he can dish out quite a bit of ranged burst with E+Q and W autos. Combine that with his insane hammer E damage and Q jump+slow, and he could shut down some top champions fairly handily in my opinion. Only problem is his only escape is his speed portal thing in ranged form, so he will have a difficult time getting out of ganks. | ||
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