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On July 05 2012 08:42 obesechicken13 wrote: Honestly you should just try smartcasting things, not smartcasting things, and having a mix of smartcasting and not smartcasting if you really want to improve. The easy thing to do though is to just smartcast the point and clicks.
I agree that all point and clicks should be smartcasted, without exception, however I think that regardless of how good you are, there are some skills which really shouldn't be smartcasted such as blitzcrank's grab and E on AP kogmaw. They're too long cooldown and too important to miss.
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If the wiki's numbers are correct for Jayce... wtf. If those mana costs aren't low. Why not make him a manaless champ then? Except for his Q his costs are like 40 50 30 each, with no /level scaling.
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You forget that his passive E (?) gives him mana / hit. =P
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Obviously its corki that is #1 bot lane bully.
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On July 05 2012 08:37 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 08:29 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 05 2012 08:28 r.Evo wrote:On July 05 2012 08:26 HazMat wrote: There's a duo queue right now that go Fiddle in the Middle and AP amumu jungle and win everything. They've gained like 200 Elo in the last couple of days. Such good synergy and both heroes are broken. But damn, he's such an awesome lane to gank for. "Hey can you please cc the enemy for 3 seconds so I can walk into the middle of the lane before I press any buttons?" "Sure bro" ♥ I feel like this is a big part of why he's a decent character to play as support. also that dark wind. preventing the enemy from flashing out for 4.2+ seconds is pretty powerful with a jungler and a carry there. You can flash after the initial fear because of the new mechanics, even if dark wind silences them with perfect timing
Unless Fiddle silences you immediately before the fear wears off, in which case you won't flash away until after the silence ends.
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On July 05 2012 09:28 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 08:37 Shikyo wrote:On July 05 2012 08:29 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 05 2012 08:28 r.Evo wrote:On July 05 2012 08:26 HazMat wrote: There's a duo queue right now that go Fiddle in the Middle and AP amumu jungle and win everything. They've gained like 200 Elo in the last couple of days. Such good synergy and both heroes are broken. But damn, he's such an awesome lane to gank for. "Hey can you please cc the enemy for 3 seconds so I can walk into the middle of the lane before I press any buttons?" "Sure bro" ♥ I feel like this is a big part of why he's a decent character to play as support. also that dark wind. preventing the enemy from flashing out for 4.2+ seconds is pretty powerful with a jungler and a carry there. You can flash after the initial fear because of the new mechanics, even if dark wind silences them with perfect timing Unless Fiddle silences you immediately before the fear wears off, in which case you won't flash away until after the silence ends. You will actually. That's my point.
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I play a lot of fiddle support in solo Q, you need to have passive farm fest lanes without sustain, hes good vs blitz and Leona. Janna and Sona are hard, Soraka is super hard.
Darkwind has longer range than fear so you generally want use it to force cds so jungler can follow up safely which you follow up with Fear. He is amazing lategame and beyond amazing with early kills.
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On July 05 2012 09:32 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 09:28 Seuss wrote:On July 05 2012 08:37 Shikyo wrote:On July 05 2012 08:29 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 05 2012 08:28 r.Evo wrote:On July 05 2012 08:26 HazMat wrote: There's a duo queue right now that go Fiddle in the Middle and AP amumu jungle and win everything. They've gained like 200 Elo in the last couple of days. Such good synergy and both heroes are broken. But damn, he's such an awesome lane to gank for. "Hey can you please cc the enemy for 3 seconds so I can walk into the middle of the lane before I press any buttons?" "Sure bro" ♥ I feel like this is a big part of why he's a decent character to play as support. also that dark wind. preventing the enemy from flashing out for 4.2+ seconds is pretty powerful with a jungler and a carry there. You can flash after the initial fear because of the new mechanics, even if dark wind silences them with perfect timing Unless Fiddle silences you immediately before the fear wears off, in which case you won't flash away until after the silence ends. You will actually. That's my point.
That's not how the new mechanics work. If there's a gap in a CC-chain then you will automatically Flash out, but if the CCs are seamless, landing the instant before the previous CC ends, there's no gap to exploit so you won't Flash until the CC-chain ends.
The wording on the change was certainly weird, but if it worked as you described Naut's infuriating hook -> root combo would be impossible against many champions when it's clearly not.
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Just lost a 1v1 to the boots +4 wukong from gtrs btw with eve. gave up after 2 deaths in which i screwed up badly twice. 
He had to use all of his potions super quickly, if i hadn't made the mistakes it definitely looked like eve could take the lane.
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so i played princexizor 1v1
i feel like i should start a new thread, a "TL LoL Grudge-Match Thread," where you can call someone out for their bullshit, play your match, and highlight it in the thread for everyone to see
i will start the thread. if you have any matches you want in the OP, i will update it like petered does the shikyo thread
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Okay my turn, I do da lee sin.
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Eh i only 1v1'd him because he caught me inbetween dota 2 matches(watching not playing) while i was sitting in LoL. I still don't think it proves a damn thing, except that he definitely underestimated the trading mid wave issue and that i shouldn't have tried the trade to wukong outside of the creep waves like i did twice. and that he was BM in game.
EDIT: I'd like to see two top laners try it instead of a support player playing vs a jungler.
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Replays should be mandatory for grude matches. Or videos.
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Live stream with BM commentary imo
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On July 05 2012 10:02 WirelessWaffle wrote: Live stream with BM commentary imo Casters need to be drinking bear semen.
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On July 05 2012 10:02 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 10:02 WirelessWaffle wrote: Live stream with BM commentary imo Casters need to be drinking bear semen. heh. lol
Man for being illegal to set off where i live there are a ton of fireworks.
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On July 05 2012 10:02 WirelessWaffle wrote: Live stream with BM commentary imo
Chill is into LoL now. Get him to commentate it. It'll be like TL Attack but with LoL and without actual pros.
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On July 05 2012 09:50 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2012 09:32 Shikyo wrote:On July 05 2012 09:28 Seuss wrote:On July 05 2012 08:37 Shikyo wrote:On July 05 2012 08:29 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 05 2012 08:28 r.Evo wrote:On July 05 2012 08:26 HazMat wrote: There's a duo queue right now that go Fiddle in the Middle and AP amumu jungle and win everything. They've gained like 200 Elo in the last couple of days. Such good synergy and both heroes are broken. But damn, he's such an awesome lane to gank for. "Hey can you please cc the enemy for 3 seconds so I can walk into the middle of the lane before I press any buttons?" "Sure bro" ♥ I feel like this is a big part of why he's a decent character to play as support. also that dark wind. preventing the enemy from flashing out for 4.2+ seconds is pretty powerful with a jungler and a carry there. You can flash after the initial fear because of the new mechanics, even if dark wind silences them with perfect timing Unless Fiddle silences you immediately before the fear wears off, in which case you won't flash away until after the silence ends. You will actually. That's my point. That's not how the new mechanics work. If there's a gap in a CC-chain then you will automatically Flash out, but if the CCs are seamless, landing the instant before the previous CC ends, there's no gap to exploit so you won't Flash until the CC-chain ends. The wording on the change was certainly weird, but if it worked as you described Naut's infuriating hook -> root combo would be impossible against many champions when it's clearly not. You flash out even if the CC is seamless. Again, that's my point.
(Unless they hotfixed that the last patch)
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if thats true it deserves a
"Because flash was not strong enough..."
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